GatorBait's take on our upcoming game against Florida....

38843dawg

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BURNING QUESTIONS: Guerry Smith provides answers to these five burning questions
1) Is former Florida offensive coordinator Dan Mullen working magic with the Mississippi State offense?
Uh, no.

You can dive into all the Mullen/Steve Addazio comparisons you want, but the Bulldogs are better this year because of their defense. Their mediocrity on offense qualifies as magic only compared to the dreadful "Worst Coast" system run by predecessor Sylvester Croom.

The problem is a lack of playmakers. Although Mississippi State has put up big numbers on Memphis, Alcorn State and Houston, it has been stuck in second gear against SEC opponents. The Bulldogs gained 246 yards in a 17-14 loss at home to Auburn, 268 in a 29-7 loss at LSU and 314 in a 24-12 win against Georgia at home.

That's weak.

Their next 150-yard passing day in league play will be their first.

2) What's with the two-quarterback system?
Usually true: if any team plays two quarterbacks regularly, it has no good quarterbacks. That description fits Mississippi State perfectly, and Mullen is trying to make the most of a bad situation by switching back and forth between Chris Relf and Tyler Russell.

Relf, with 295 yards on 65 carries, is the better runner. Russell, a redshirt freshman who was a top recruit, is a prototypical pocket quarterback at 6-foot-5. Neither has been effective as a thrower, with Russell downright awful at times. Relf is 26-of-48 for 293 yards with two touchdowns (vs. Georgia) and two interceptions (vs. LSU) in SEC action. Russell is a miserable 9-of-19 for 100 yards with four interceptions and zero touchdowns.

Mullen replaces them when he wants with no set pattern, and he stuck with the hot hand (or more accurately, feet) in the upset of Georgia as Relf played every down, rushing for 109 yards.

3) How did Mississippi State beat Georgia?
First, wide receiver A.J. Green did not play, and he makes a huge difference for Georgia.

Second, Mississippi State was opportunistic, winning comfortably despite being out-gained 387-314.

Georgia answered Mississippi State's opening touchdown drive with a 13-play, 80-yard drive of its own that ended when running back Washaun Ealey fumbled at the 1-yard line. Later in the half, Georgia settled for a field goal after a 15-play, 58-yard drive stalled at the 16.

Leading 10-6, Mississippi State sealed the victory on a 33-yard touchdown pass from Relf to Arceto Clark with 4:22 left. Mississippi State fumbled three times and recovered all of them.

4) Why has the defense improved?
New co-coordinators Manny Diaz, who came over from Middle Tennessee, and Chris Wilson, a former Oklahoma defensive line coach, have the Bulldogs playing incredibly hard with a 3-4, blitz-heavy scheme.

They held Auburn to a season-low 348 yards, keeping Mississippi State in the game until the final seconds, and LSU to an SEC-low 264 yards, hanging tough despite five interceptions from the offense. The Bulldogs have held opponents to 3.5 yards per carry, better than Florida's 3.7, and have yielded only three rushing touchdowns, tied for the best figure in the league. Mississippi State has 42 tackles for loss, five more than Florida.

The pass defense is decent, but the Bulldogs have not faced any big-time throwing quarterbacks. Houston true freshman quarterback David Piland threw for 301 yards last Saturday but needed a whopping 57 attempts to do it.

5) How can Mississippi State beat Florida?
By stopping the run, forcing the Gators to win in the air, finishing drives and getting a ton of breaks.

Mississippi State has scored 16 touchdowns out of 22 Red Zone series and needs to put the ball in the end zone to have a shot. Relf and Russell need to avoid interceptions against Florida's ball-hawking secondary, a tough proposition.

Essentially, the Bulldogs have to be flawless and the Gators have to be careless.

Despite serious offensive concerns, Florida has too much talent top to bottom for Mississippi State. Alabama overwhelmed Florida with playmakers and LSU dominated the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Mississippi State can't do either.

John Brantley could be headed for a big day after leading a clutch touchdown drive against LSU late in the fourth quarter.


Found some of the responses of these questions interesting. Also, these are answers from one of their Rivals editors.
 

38843dawg

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BURNING QUESTIONS: Guerry Smith provides answers to these five burning questions
1) Is former Florida offensive coordinator Dan Mullen working magic with the Mississippi State offense?
Uh, no.

You can dive into all the Mullen/Steve Addazio comparisons you want, but the Bulldogs are better this year because of their defense. Their mediocrity on offense qualifies as magic only compared to the dreadful "Worst Coast" system run by predecessor Sylvester Croom.

The problem is a lack of playmakers. Although Mississippi State has put up big numbers on Memphis, Alcorn State and Houston, it has been stuck in second gear against SEC opponents. The Bulldogs gained 246 yards in a 17-14 loss at home to Auburn, 268 in a 29-7 loss at LSU and 314 in a 24-12 win against Georgia at home.

That's weak.

Their next 150-yard passing day in league play will be their first.

2) What's with the two-quarterback system?
Usually true: if any team plays two quarterbacks regularly, it has no good quarterbacks. That description fits Mississippi State perfectly, and Mullen is trying to make the most of a bad situation by switching back and forth between Chris Relf and Tyler Russell.

Relf, with 295 yards on 65 carries, is the better runner. Russell, a redshirt freshman who was a top recruit, is a prototypical pocket quarterback at 6-foot-5. Neither has been effective as a thrower, with Russell downright awful at times. Relf is 26-of-48 for 293 yards with two touchdowns (vs. Georgia) and two interceptions (vs. LSU) in SEC action. Russell is a miserable 9-of-19 for 100 yards with four interceptions and zero touchdowns.

Mullen replaces them when he wants with no set pattern, and he stuck with the hot hand (or more accurately, feet) in the upset of Georgia as Relf played every down, rushing for 109 yards.

3) How did Mississippi State beat Georgia?
First, wide receiver A.J. Green did not play, and he makes a huge difference for Georgia.

Second, Mississippi State was opportunistic, winning comfortably despite being out-gained 387-314.

Georgia answered Mississippi State's opening touchdown drive with a 13-play, 80-yard drive of its own that ended when running back Washaun Ealey fumbled at the 1-yard line. Later in the half, Georgia settled for a field goal after a 15-play, 58-yard drive stalled at the 16.

Leading 10-6, Mississippi State sealed the victory on a 33-yard touchdown pass from Relf to Arceto Clark with 4:22 left. Mississippi State fumbled three times and recovered all of them.

4) Why has the defense improved?
New co-coordinators Manny Diaz, who came over from Middle Tennessee, and Chris Wilson, a former Oklahoma defensive line coach, have the Bulldogs playing incredibly hard with a 3-4, blitz-heavy scheme.

They held Auburn to a season-low 348 yards, keeping Mississippi State in the game until the final seconds, and LSU to an SEC-low 264 yards, hanging tough despite five interceptions from the offense. The Bulldogs have held opponents to 3.5 yards per carry, better than Florida's 3.7, and have yielded only three rushing touchdowns, tied for the best figure in the league. Mississippi State has 42 tackles for loss, five more than Florida.

The pass defense is decent, but the Bulldogs have not faced any big-time throwing quarterbacks. Houston true freshman quarterback David Piland threw for 301 yards last Saturday but needed a whopping 57 attempts to do it.

5) How can Mississippi State beat Florida?
By stopping the run, forcing the Gators to win in the air, finishing drives and getting a ton of breaks.

Mississippi State has scored 16 touchdowns out of 22 Red Zone series and needs to put the ball in the end zone to have a shot. Relf and Russell need to avoid interceptions against Florida's ball-hawking secondary, a tough proposition.

Essentially, the Bulldogs have to be flawless and the Gators have to be careless.

Despite serious offensive concerns, Florida has too much talent top to bottom for Mississippi State. Alabama overwhelmed Florida with playmakers and LSU dominated the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Mississippi State can't do either.

John Brantley could be headed for a big day after leading a clutch touchdown drive against LSU late in the fourth quarter.


Found some of the responses of these questions interesting. Also, these are answers from one of their Rivals editors.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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Naaa, make e'm do it. Tee it up, kick their ***.

Don't think it will be as easy as GB thinks, yes we need more, better players,etc., but we are a Dangerous Team, and Fla. ain't all that dang great this year.
 

saltslugs

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with the 2-quarterback system answer. Anyone that has watched the last 3 games knows that we do not have a 2-QB scheme. And, I would also argue that Relf is a pretty decent SEC QB--good runner and okay passer.
 

Mr Meoff

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Their mediocrity on offense qualifies as magic only compared to the dreadful "Worst Coast" system run by predecessor Sylvester Croom, which was in fact good enough to bitchslap my beloved Gators in 2004.

Look buddy, we all despise the Crxxm Coast offense as much as the next guy, but comparing it to our current offense is like -- well, I'd say it's like me comparing Urban Meyer (sp) to the Zooker.




Come on, Dogs... One time, baby, one time.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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and nothing on what they can do...which has not been that great against SEC competition.
If the Dogs can hold their own at the line of scrimmage, will be a good game.

John Brantley could be headed for a big day after leading a clutch touchdown drive against LSU late in the fourth quarter.

 

biguglyjoe

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PASSING EFFICIENCY

Rank Player Gm Att Cmp CPct Int PYds YdsAtt TD Rating
1. Cam Newton, Auburn 6 108 70 64.81 5 1138 10.54 12 180.73
2. Stephen Garcia, South Carolina 5 101 73 72.28 3 944 9.35 8 170.99
3. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas 5 176 122 69.32 6 1748 9.93 13 170.30
4. Greg McElroy, Alabama 6 137 99 72.26 3 1298 9.47 9 169.15
5. Aaron Murray, Georgia 6 157 97 61.78 3 1366 8.70 10 152.07
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> 6. Tyler Russell, Mississippi St. 5 58 35 60.34 5 555 9.57 4 146.24
</span> 7. Jeremiah Masoli, Mississippi 5 94 57 60.64 5 823 8.76 6 144.61
8. Mike Hartline, Kentucky 6 188 125 66.49 3 1442 7.67 9 143.53
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> 9. Chris Relf, Mississippi St. 6 86 51 59.30 3 675 7.85 5 137.44
</span> 10. Matt Simms, Tennessee 6 154 88 57.14 4 1136 7.38 7 128.91 <span style="font-weight: bold;">** No listing for Brantley.</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"> RECEPTIONS PER GAME

Rank Player Gm Rec Yds TD RecGm YdsCat YdsGm
1. Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina 5 34 625 4 6.80 18.38 125.00
2. Greg Childs, Arkansas 5 28 363 3 5.60 12.96 72.60
3. Randall Cobb, Kentucky 6 32 403 4 5.33 12.59 67.17
<span style="font-weight: bold;">3. Chad Bumphis, Mississippi St. 6 32 431 4 5.33 13.47 71.83
</span> 3. Julio Jones, Alabama 6 32 440 3 5.33 13.75 73.33
6. D.J. Williams, Arkansas 5 22 259 0 4.40 11.77 51.80
7. Joe Adams, Arkansas 5 21 408 3 4.20 19.43 81.60
8. Derrick Locke, Kentucky 6 24 225 0 4.00 9.38 37.50
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> 9. Deonte Thompson, Florida 6 23 328 0 3.83 14.26 54.67
</span> 10. Darvin Adams, Auburn 6 21 385 2 3.50 18.33 64.17
10. Chris Matthews, Kentucky 6 21 305 5 3.50 14.52 50.83
PASSING EFFICIENCY

Rank Team Gm Att Cmp PPct Int Yds YdAtt TD TPct Rating
1. Auburn 6 117 76 64.96 5 1242 10.62 12 10.26 179.47
2. Alabama 6 159 112 70.44 3 1486 9.35 11 6.92 167.96
3. Arkansas 5 182 124 68.13 7 1770 9.73 13 7.14 165.67
4. South Carolina 5 121 85 70.25 6 1088 8.99 9 7.44 160.36
5. Mississippi 5 106 65 61.32 5 957 9.03 9 8.49 155.72
6. Georgia 6 162 99 61.11 3 1399 8.64 11 6.79 152.34
7. Kentucky 6 197 132 67.01 3 1545 7.84 12 6.09 149.93
<span style="font-weight: bold;">8. Mississippi St. 6 145 86 59.31 9 1230 8.48 9 6.21 138.62
</span> 9. Vanderbilt 5 124 70 56.45 3 893 7.20 6 4.84 128.12
10. Tennessee 6 172 99 57.56 5 1241 7.22 7 4.07 125.82
<span style="font-weight: bold;">11. Florida 6 171 106 61.99 5 1098 6.42 6 3.51 121.67
</span> 12. LSU 6 138 80 57.97 8 879 6.37 4 2.90 109.48
SCORING OFFENSE

Rank Team Gm Yds TD Pts Avg Kxp Oxp Dkxp Doxp FG Sf
1. Mississippi 5 2117 24 186 37.20 24 0 0 0 6 0
2. Auburn 6 2898 28 220 36.67 28 0 0 0 8 0
3. Kentucky 6 2604 28 216 36.00 25 1 0 0 7 0
4. Alabama 6 2671 26 210 35.00 25 0 0 0 9 1
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> 5. Mississippi St. 6 2501 26 190 31.67 26 0 0 0 2 1
</span> 6. South Carolina 5 1872 21 158 31.60 20 0 0 0 4 0
<span style="font-weight: bold;"> 7. Florida 6 1942 25 186 31.00 22 1 0 0 4 0
</span> 8. Arkansas 5 2314 19 150 30.00 19 0 0 0 5 1
9. Georgia 6 2220 19 165 27.50 18 0 0 0 11 0
10. LSU 6 2018 17 155 25.83 15 0 0 0 12 1
11. Vanderbilt 5 1751 17 125 25.00 14 0 0 0 3 0
12. Tennessee 6 1931 17 140 23.33 15 0 0 0 7 1
TOTAL OFFENSE

Rank Team Gm Pl Yds Avg TD YdsGm
1. Auburn 6 401 2898 7.23 28 483.00
2. Arkansas 5 320 2314 7.23 19 462.80
3. Alabama 6 372 2671 7.18 26 445.17
4. Kentucky 6 404 2604 6.45 28 434.00
5. Mississippi 5 337 2117 6.28 24 423.40
<span style="font-weight: bold;">6. Mississippi St. 6 396 2501 6.32 26 416.83
</span> 7. South Carolina 5 313 1872 5.98 21 374.40
8. Georgia 6 368 2220 6.03 19 370.00
9. Vanderbilt 5 305 1751 5.74 17 350.20
10. LSU 6 382 2018 5.28 17 336.33
<span style="font-weight: bold;">11. Florida 6 384 1942 5.06 25 323.67
</span> 12. Tennessee 6 364 1931 5.30 17 321.83
*You can say that they have played greater competition, but the avg of D1 total defenses(6 teams) on their schedule is 39 which has USF ranked at #18 but they have played the likes of Stony Brook, Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic and Syracuse. *The avg of D1 total defenses(5 Teams) on our schedule is 53 with the lowest,Memphis, ranked at 108.
 

Todd4State

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1. Lack of playmakers? Isn't Vick Ballard second in THE COUNTRY in TD's? And then there's Relf and Bumphis. He puts down our offense vs SEC play, but against Auburn and LSU, we were still trying to find our identity, which we have now.

2. I don't know, what is with the two QB system? Because our "two QB system" right now is Relf starting and playing meaningful minutes with the game in doubt and then Tyler Russell comes in and plays when we have a big lead. Right now, Florida has more of a two QB system than we do.

3. I hope they keep telling themselves that we were lucky to beat Georgia.

4. Our defense has improved because Carl Torbush is in Kansas.

5. Let's show them how on Saturday.
 

msumhsfan

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Florida played a 2 qb system for 2 years right? No is not ideal and i dont like it very much but it doesnt automatically mean both qb's are bad. Yeah ours have not been the best in the SEC but it could be much worse. And he conveniently skipped over the run game except for a little blurb aboutRelfs ability. Our o-line is one of our better units. It seems like he is having a hard time accepting their losses. I am not saying we are going tobeat them but damn, that guy was in denial and we have a better chance that he wants to admit</p>
 

Mr Meoff

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I think Azurri's post below shows we have almost twice as many plays over 20 yards as the mighty Gators do this year.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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but this is what I read a day or so ago:
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``[We have a] lack of explosive plays,'' Meyer said. ``That's something we kind of set a trademark for around here, and we're devoid of those right now and obviously taking care of the football [is another issue]. Those are really the core values of our program as far as how to win a game. It's rather obvious the areas you have to improve upon.''</p>

Florida has just five runs of 20 yards or longer this season and three catches of 30 yards or longer. </p>

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biguglyjoe

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<span style="font-weight: bold;">Auburn
10-20 yds 8
20 yards+ 3

LSU
10-20 yds 7
20 yds+ 2

Georgia
10-20 yds 7
20 yds+ 5

ETA:
Memphis
10-20yds 10
20yds + 7

Alcorn
10-20yds 9
20yds+ 6

Houston
10-20yds 14
20 yds + 6
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Mr Meoff

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Besides LSU and Bama they've played UT, Kentucky, USF, and Miami of Ohio. Not the greatest defenses in the country.

Not saying anything, other than they shouldn't be talking **** about our playmakers.
 

RougeDawg

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I'm pretty sure Florida has been playing both QB's the last 4 games. Also, he forgot to mention how they scored 3 of their 4 TD's against Ellis Yeaux. Let me refresh the viewing audience: 1 TD on a kickoff return and 2 TD's following Ellis Yeaux turnovers inside their own 20 yard line. I'd say that is really being productive on offense. Their O Line resembles swiss cheese and of their 4 wins, they haven't beaten anyone better than we have beaten. We have not struggled one bit with teams we should have beaten. However, they didn't pull away from Miami OH until late 3rd and struggled with South Florida. I'd say the two teams are pretty even based on games played thus far.

He forgot to mention their QB having cracked ribs and being one dimensional with Burton under center.
 

Todd4State

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but I have seen some 3 man fronts at times. I guess it would be most correct to say that we're multiple.
 

Foronce

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2. I don't know, what is with the two QB system? Because our "two QB system" right now is Relf starting and playing meaningful minutes with the game in doubt and then Tyler Russell comes in and plays when we have a big lead. Right now, Florida has more of a two QB system than we do.

they look at the stats... during our national game we sub'bed in qbs
you think this guy really watch 4 minutes of Mississippi State vs Houston?

we have no signature wins in the Dan Mullen era?

until our team goes in to a place like the swamp or death valley and handle business, no blogger is going to take notice...
 

38843dawg

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msumhsfan said:
Florida played a 2 qb system for 2 years right? No is not ideal and i dont like it very much but it doesnt automatically mean both qb's are bad. Yeah ours have not been the best in the SEC but it could be much worse. And he conveniently skipped over the run game except for a little blurb aboutRelfs ability. Our o-line is one of our better units. It seems like he is having a hard time accepting their losses. I am not saying we are going tobeat them but damn, that guy was in denial and we have a better chance that he wants to admit</p>
 

XUglow

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Florida should be confident. Example -

Georgia fumbles at 1 into endzone. MSU recovers. Result: MSU touchback.
Florida fumbles at 1 into endzone. MSU recovers. Result: Florida touchdown.

Nuff said.
 

00Dawg

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But I'd bet money our pre-game depth chart never lists a NT while Manny is in town. 2 DT/2 DE, as it should be.