Gerald Foster "doesn't want to be like Wisconsin..."

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I don't want to be like Wisconsin either. We need to chart our own path back to relevance. We can do better.

I would gladly take a program with the mentality that Wisconsin brings to the table. It's a program that isn't limited by average to above average talent. Just imagine what they could do if Chryst and his staff could recruit better.

Do you know what Wisconsin's Rivals recruiting rankings were from '13 through '17? 57th, 33rd, 37th, 35th, 35th. The idiots that continue saying this is about talent, not coaching, need to open their eyes.
 

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I would gladly take a program with the mentality that Wisconsin brings to the table. It's a program that isn't limited by average to above average talent. Just imagine what they could do if Chryst and his staff could recruit better.

Do you know what Wisconsin's Rivals recruiting rankings were from '13 through '17? 57th, 33rd, 37th, 35th, 35th. The idiots that continue saying this is about talent, not coaching, need to open their eyes.
Agree. That would be a nice milestone for our program. We need to aim for even more.
 

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I don't want to be like Wisconsin either. We need to chart our own path back to relevance. We can do better.

Yeah, that makes sense, after getting pasted by them...again. Wisconsin has a nice blueprint, that consistently delivers very good to great results. You can wish all day long for better results, but that isn't going to bring **** when you have coaches teaching pattycake to our OLine. F'ing infuriates me what Cavanaugh has done to this OLine.
 
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Well pal, you and the other soft OLineman better start FKing wanting to look like Wisconsin, because they owned your asses...again...on the LOS!!

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/footba...cle_e66aabd3-1907-5966-be93-ae5ade62fa8f.html
Of all the things to get your panties in a bunch about, this shouldn't be one of them.

Do you really expect a player to say "Yep, I want to be like them" right after a game? I would hope the players would never state that. Just because they don't want to be like Wisc doesn't mean they don't want to be great.
 

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Yeah, that makes sense, after getting pasted by them...again. Wisconsin has a nice blueprint, that consistently delivers very good to great results. You can wish all day long for better results, but that isn't going to bring **** when you have coaches teaching pattycake to our OLine. F'ing infuriates me what Cavanaugh has done to this OLine.
So when we get pasted worse by OSU this week, should we want to be like them more?

Your passion runs deep. Are you really infuriated? Get a grip man.
 
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Of all the things to get your panties in a bunch about, this shouldn't be one of them.

Do you really expect a player to say "Yep, I want to be like them" right after a game? I would hope the players would never state that. Just because they don't want to be like Wisc doesn't mean they don't want to be great.

They should be honest and give credit to the team that just bent them over on national TV. And the coach of them should never put them in that place in the first place. Which tells me that we just need to clean house and rid the program of this 'soft' approach to a physical game.
 

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They should be honest and give credit to the team that just bent them over on national TV. And the coach of them should never put them in that place in the first place. Which tells me that we just need to clean house and rid the program of this 'soft' approach to a physical game.

No argument on cleaning house, but come on, I wouldn't want our players saying they want to be like the opposition. That is just dumb.

Your anger is clouding your judgement. Or maybe it is just really you that is clouded.
 

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No argument on cleaning house, but come on, I wouldn't want our players saying they want to be like the opposition. That is just dumb.

Your anger is clouding your judgement. Or maybe it is just really you that is clouded.

What a strange way of looking at this. Very strange. If I get my *** kicked, I'm gong to say nice job and work my *** off so it never happens again. But in this instance I'm pretty certain our coaching staff is what has failed these players.
 

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What a strange way of looking at this. Very strange. If I get my *** kicked, I'm gong to say nice job and work my *** off so it never happens again. But in this instance I'm pretty certain our coaching staff is what has failed these players.
WTH are you talking about? Of course they should work their *** off, but why would you expect them to say they want to BE LIKE them?
 
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WTH are you talking about? Of course they should work their *** off, but why would you expect them to say they want to BE LIKE them?

That's funny, I was going to ask you the same thing. What in holy hell are you talking about? When you get owned by a team, you don't make yourself look foolish by saying "We don't want to be like (the team that just owned us)." You give them full props, and then you go about making sure it never happens again. He doesn't have to say that he wants to be like them. He just says they did a nice job with what they were doing, and work like hell to get better. But unfortunately they are being taught by a piss-poor coach to begin with.
 

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I'm sure the coaches meant the absolute worst for our players. Probably weren't even trying to win.

Who is saying anything about the coaches not trying? Tim Miles is trying in the best way he knows how as well. But he isn't a good coach in the B1G. I don't think I need to go in-depth on this topic. We all understand this concept. This is why coaches get fired...because they may have full intentions of doing well, but they suck as coaches. That's precisely the scenario we have on our hands.
 

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Who is saying anything about the coaches not trying? Tim Miles is trying in the best way he knows how as well. But he isn't a good coach in the B1G. I don't think I need to go in-depth on this topic. We all understand this concept. This is why coaches get fired...because they may have full intentions of doing well, but they suck as coaches. That's precisely the scenario we have on our hands.
I agree, but the comment
And the coach of them should never put them in that place in the first place.
makes little sense to me. If the coaches could put them in a better place they would.

But I see what you're saying with the rest of your posts.
 

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I agree, but the comment
makes little sense to me. If the coaches could put them in a better place they would.

But I see what you're saying with the rest of your posts.

When I say the coaches shouldn't put them in that place to begin with, I'm saying their coaches should have them better prepared to compete. It would appear Mike Cavanaugh isn't capable of doing that.
 
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I would gladly take a program with the mentality that Wisconsin brings to the table. It's a program that isn't limited by average to above average talent. Just imagine what they could do if Chryst and his staff could recruit better.

Do you know what Wisconsin's Rivals recruiting rankings were from '13 through '17? 57th, 33rd, 37th, 35th, 35th. The idiots that continue saying this is about talent, not coaching, need to open their eyes.
I will continue to say it, because we need better talent to compete for a national title. There are cases out there that coaching can make a difference case in point, look at the Miami Hurricanes under Golden and Shannon, there was NFL talent on those team and it showed come draft time. Its not Wisky is playing for national titles recently. They are solid team, but don't have the horses to compete with top tier teams in the country.
 

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That's funny, I was going to ask you the same thing. What in holy hell are you talking about? When you get owned by a team, you don't make yourself look foolish by saying "We don't want to be like (the team that just owned us)." You give them full props, and then you go about making sure it never happens again. He doesn't have to say that he wants to be like them. He just says they did a nice job with what they were doing, and work like hell to get better. But unfortunately they are being taught by a piss-poor coach to begin with.

A normal person can easily separate the two. Give props but don't say you want to be like them. What was the question to Foster? The article doesn't say, it just gives his quote. That context really matters to his response. In any case, I would never want a player saying they want to BE LIKE the opponent. By the way, Foster said. “I’m Nebraska, if that’s simple enough to say. I don’t want to be them." That sounds like a pretty good follow up. Quit trying to make this out to something it isn't.
 
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I will continue to say it, because we need better talent to compete for a national title. There are cases out there that coaching can make a difference case in point, look at the Miami Hurricanes under Golden and Shannon, there was NFL talent on those team and it showed come draft time. Its not Wisky is playing for national titles recently. They are solid team, but don't have the horses to compete with top tier teams in the country.

Agreed. They have very good coaching, with average talent. You give them good recruited talent to start out with, they beat us by 35 or 40 yesterday.
 
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A normal person can easily separate the two. Give props but don't say you want to be like them. What was the question to Foster? The article doesn't say, it just gives his quote. That context really matters to his response. In any case, I would never want a player saying they want to BE LIKE the opponent. By the way, Foster said. “I’m Nebraska, if that’s simple enough to say. I don’t want to be them." That sounds like a pretty good follow up. Quit trying to make this out to something it isn't.

I don’t want to be Wisconsin,” Foster said. “I’m Nebraska, if that’s simple enough to say. I don’t want to be them.

“I believe in what we have with our quarterback. He’s a gunslinger, so in the sense of him being able to do what he does, I don’t want us just to be running the ball the whole time.”


"That’s a unique thing for an offensive lineman to say out loud. It’s the “bloodbath” comment of 2017, where Nebraska distinguishes itself from Iowa or Wisconsin in a curious way. It reflects, to some degree, coach Mike Riley’s vision of building a program that’s better than the Hawkeyes and Badgers before he builds one that’s just as good. He can’t beat  ’em. He’s not joining  ’em, either. Nebraska will go its own way, courting wideouts and corners with semi-celebrity profiles and recruiting diaries."

Sam's response is spot on. Not sure I've seen a better follow up paragraph to a comment. Perfect writing. Someone should have said...

"Hey kid, you just lost by 3 TDs. Perhaps you should try to be like Wisconsin during the interim, until your coaches figure out how to be better than them."

"It reflects, to some degree, coach Mike Riley’s vision of building a program that’s better than the Hawkeyes and Badgers before he builds one that’s just as good. He can’t beat  ’em. He’s not joining  ’em, either. Nebraska will go its own way, courting wideouts and corners with semi-celebrity profiles and recruiting diaries."
 

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BS...Alvarez built Wisonsin by modeling NU...the results of that and Nebraska's idiotic deviation from it are clearly evident.
And interestingly Wisconsin runs almost the exact same offense as we do. The difference is that their system has been in place now for a couple of decades no matter who the coach was and they recruit ginormous O linemen. We've gone from option to WCO to spread back to WCO. Yes Alvarez's guys run a power run game WCO but I think we would too if we had the horses up front to do it. Part of the thing that makes it a "power" run game is having guys that can move the D. Tom was running more of a more pro-style offense when Alvarez left and that is what he has implemented there. IF people truly want to be like Wisconsin then we should probably stay the course and just recruit, coach and play better.
 
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Agreed. They have very good coaching, with average talent. You give them good recruited talent to start out with, they beat us by 35 or 40 yesterday.
I wanted Riley gone since day one, but Sweeney, Saban, or Myer couldn't produce a much better product than the current staff. I know a lot fans hated Callahan, but the man could recruit, if would just made a few changes to his coaching staff, we might had something with him.