Getting Engagement Pressure

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Appropriate age for a man is over 23.

Appropriate situation? When you love her so much that you know without a doubt that you can spend the rest of your life with her and be the happiest guy on the planet, completely content that she is the one. Don't you dare take that step without knowing this. You either know for sure or you don't. You should feel a spark every time you see her. If you are feeling "pressured" then she's not your girl and you should damn well know better. You are wasting your time and hers. Let her go so she can find a man that actually loves her and you can find a woman that you actually love.

Finally, don't allow yourself to be pressured by ANYONE (friends, family members, etc.) surrounding the relationship, either for or against. It's your call and yours alone, but you damn well better make the right one, son.

Everything you said is true. The only trouble is, most divorced people felt that way about their significant other before they got married.
 
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Here is my stock answer to marriage questions. Ask her this ONE question: "Is there any thing about me that you expect to change after we get married?" If she gives you any answer besides ' Nothing ' there will be divorce in your future. I learned the hard way.

Women marry men thinking they will change - but they don't.
Men marry women thinking they won't change - but they do.

How one's marriage survives depends on how both are able to adapt to this truth.

*Noted: this is a generality.
 
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If you give in to her "pressure" it won't end there...you will be "pressured" into kids...on and on...just do what you think is right when you think it's the right time to propose.

One of my good friends was pressured to get engaged for 3 years and he proposed when he was ready and everything turned out just fine.
 

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Everything you said is true. The only trouble is, most divorced people felt that way about their significant other before they got married.
I think most divorced people I know weren't mature enough or intelligent enough to make this assessment when they got married.
 

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Damn that peer pressure.


You never know what someone is like till you live with them.

4, 7, 3, 1, 2, 6, 5....

I need to take a shower now.
 
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If you're having to ask should you get married... then you shouldn't get married. Also, somebody demanding you ask them is a huge red flag. Probably means you are a wimp, she doesn't respect you, and will be banging all your friends before the wedding cake is gone. Do yourself a favor, dump her, move out of state, change your name, wear shirts with frilly sleeves, and speak with an Australian accent. It may not make much sense now, but trust me, if you follow this life plan you will live a fantastic life instead of being chained to that demanding hussy.
 
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For you married guys, did your girl impose any demands re: the ring?

One of my best friends is about to propose, and his girlfriend has very seriously *demanded* that the ring cost no less than $30,000. This is a guy who makes about $60,000, and only recently started making that much.

I laughed in her face when she told me that, which was not well received.

Screw that.....that dude should cut his losses now (which is his time), and move on elsewhere. That chick is nothing but trouble.
 

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Appropriate age for a man is over 23.

Appropriate situation? When you love her so much that you know without a doubt that you can spend the rest of your life with her and be the happiest guy on the planet, completely content that she is the one. Don't you dare take that step without knowing this. You either know for sure or you don't. You should feel a spark every time you see her. If you are feeling "pressured" then she's not your girl and you should damn well know better. You are wasting your time and hers. Let her go so she can find a man that actually loves her and you can find a woman that you actually love.

Finally, don't allow yourself to be pressured by ANYONE (friends, family members, etc.) surrounding the relationship, either for or against. It's your call and yours alone, but you damn well better make the right one, son.
23 is way too young now. Times have changed.
 

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When you love her so much that you know without a doubt that you can spend the rest of your life with her and be the happiest guy on the planet, completely content that she is the one. Don't you dare take that step without knowing this. You either know for sure or you don't. You should feel a spark every time you see her.

Meh, don't agree with this at all. As a matter of fact I would say this is why I know all these 40 somethings that are still single and looking for "the one", looking for this unrealistic thing. There's always going to be doubt when there are a million other girls within 15 miles of you. And I didn't feel a spark everytime I saw my girlfriend now wife. I loved her, we got along great, she was a good person, and I was happy. That was it. No dancing on clouds when I saw her, no crying when I was apart from her, no whatever other dramatic hollywood things you think you should feel. That's my opinion anyway.
 

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I mean if the Bachelor can fall in love with two girls and propose to one after a few TV dates, not really sure what's the hold up.
 
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Meh, don't agree with this at all. As a matter of fact I would say this is why I know all these 40 somethings that are still single and looking for "the one", looking for this unrealistic thing. There's always going to be doubt when there are a million other girls within 15 miles of you. And I didn't feel a spark everytime I saw my girlfriend now wife. I loved her, we got along great, she was a good person, and I was happy. That was it. No dancing on clouds when I saw her, no crying when I was apart from her, no whatever other dramatic hollywood things you think you should feel. That's my opinion anyway.
I like Ron's idea. Just settle for whatever you can get. Life is brutal. Best batten down the hatches and settle for the fact that there is another human being willing to share a house with you. Aiming low is the key to happiness. It's all an expectations game anyway. Just marry the first girl that doesn't leave you when you fart in front of her as there isn't much else you can expect. Look at Ron, good God look at Ron. She didn't mind his athletes feet and as long as he could shovel a couple hundred pounds of groceries into the kitchen every week then she was good. Sort of has a "livestock" ring to it but hey, he's... not alone when he's at home. I guess.
 

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does she already have kids? If so, do you want to donations to adopt one of your own. If this is not the case, i apologize. If it is the case, my offer to spend a lovely evening with the two of you so you can have a kid of your own still stands.
 

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I think most divorced people I know weren't mature enough or intelligent enough to make this assessment when they got married.

That is true. I was married at 19. My wife was barely 18. In hindsight I would never recommend getting married anywhere near that age but that was the norm back then. However my marriage has endured for almost 53 years. Numerous ups and downs of course but those can often be worked through if both believe their wedding vows were made to others as well as to one another (the witnesses present and, oh yes, to God if married in a church).
 
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Meh, don't agree with this at all. As a matter of fact I would say this is why I know all these 40 somethings that are still single and looking for "the one", looking for this unrealistic thing. There's always going to be doubt when there are a million other girls within 15 miles of you. And I didn't feel a spark everytime I saw my girlfriend now wife. I loved her, we got along great, she was a good person, and I was happy. That was it. No dancing on clouds when I saw her, no crying when I was apart from her, no whatever other dramatic hollywood things you think you should feel. That's my opinion anyway.

So you are completely content with your wife, yes? Good. Then you agree with me, even though your comprehension level seems to be pretty low as I said absolutely nothing about dancing on clouds or crying when apart or any other Hollywood ******** you interjected.
 

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So you are completely content with your wife, yes? Good. Then you agree with me, even though your comprehension level seems to be pretty low as I said absolutely nothing about dancing on clouds or crying when apart or any other Hollywood ******** you interjected.


Yes, I'm very happy. But I never saw sparks everytime I saw her and I had some doubt about getting married to one girl for the rest of my damn life. If that's what I was waiting for I'd die single. That's just an unrealistic standard in my opinion.
 

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That is true. I was married at 19. My wife was barely 18. In hindsight I would never recommend getting married anywhere near that age but that was the norm back then. However my marriage has endured for almost 53 years. Numerous ups and downs of course but those can often be worked through if both believe their wedding vows were made to others as well as to one another (the witnesses present and, oh yes, to God if married in a church).
I'm not really advocating for a certain age or level of life experience or success. The main things I have noticed in great marriages regardless of income, age, or whatever is basically a certain level of maturity and intelligence. You have to be mature and intelligent enough to realize you're not perfect and you have faults and that the other person should not be expected to be either. You have to understand you both have hopes and dreams and that supporting them in their pursuits is just as important as them supporting you. Sacrifice, disappointment, and disagreements will happen, it's whether you can reconcile, forgive, and move on from these things that make a long and happy life with your spouse. Obviously maturity and intelligence increase as you get older but I think there are younger folks that are there too. Just depends on the person and their partner.
 

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Then that's the only thing that really matters, the rest is mostly opinion. You seem to be taking this "spark" thing personally o_O.


Ya man, I'm about to completely blow a gasket over here. Was it my typing in all caps or excessive cussing that made me seem like a giant rage ball? Also when I'm really heated I love finishing off my anger posts with "in my opinion", really sets the strong and confrontational tone I'm going for.
 

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Ron expressing a raging disappointment with his life has really been the highlight of this thread. A loveless marriage and an aggressive confrontational internet persona. I don't know how it could end badly.

I guess it makes all of our lives better in knowing that his has failed so utterly.
 
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Look at me, I'm Anth sitting on my little cloud of judgment, handing down life lessons.

:pray:

Just because you got married and had a kid doesn't make you better than us.
 
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Ya man, I'm about to completely blow a gasket over here. Was it my typing in all caps or excessive cussing that made me seem like a giant rage ball? Also when I'm really heated I love finishing off my anger posts with "in my opinion", really sets the strong and confrontational tone I'm going for.

 

Supreme Lord Z

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If she starts pressuring you into marriage, then you start pressuring her into a three-way. Tell her that you need to check some things off your sexual bucket list before you could ever consider settling down.
If you were telling her that with a completely straight face like you were discussing taxes while resting a big giant rubber dong on your shoulder it would be perfect.
 

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Ya man, I'm about to completely blow a gasket over here. Was it my typing in all caps or excessive cussing that made me seem like a giant rage ball? Also when I'm really heated I love finishing off my anger posts with "in my opinion", really sets the strong and confrontational tone I'm going for.

Use IMHO instead. It makes the same point but comes across as less aggressive.
 
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