Getting Rid of MOKH for Derby & as State Song

[vhcat70]

... because it's about a black slave getting sold away from her family - which is true as I understand it.

But I don't why the story ought not to be told and lamented -as the song does. Seems like she's being honored for her travail.

Yet I'm hearing Dandy is studying the issue of dumping it. Why?

 

[funKYcat75]

Link/source?

 

[It'saDoneDeal]

Here's what I found: news story about the potential removal of MOKH.

 

[vhcat70]

Link/source?

Saw Dandy talking about it on local news this a.m.

 

[funKYcat75]

Saw Dandy talking about it on local news this a.m.

Link?

 

[vhcat70]

"
During his briefing on Monday, when asked directly about whether it was time to retire “My Old Kentucky Home” and find a new state song, Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear said he had not “specifically heard those concerns personally from community leaders.”

“It’s always right to have these conversations, but it’s one that’s going to take a little longer than the next week,” he said. “But when people are hurt by something… I think it’s incumbent on us to say please tell me why, let me listen and let me try to hear.”

https://wfpl.org/churchill-downs-will-play-my-old-kentucky-home-at-the-derby/

 

[rick64]

I've watched the Derby every year since I was a child. I'm 56 years old now. When the crowd is scanned I've seen people of all backgrounds, ethnicity, race, gender, etc. stand and cheer and/or sing along with MOKH when its played at Churchill Downs. Now all of a sudden, it's offensive and it shouldn't be played anymore.

 

[Tskware]

They changed the offensive words many many years ago, even I don't see the problem with it.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

Frederick Douglass wrote in his 1855 autobiography My Bondage and My Freedom that the song "awakens sympathies for the slave, in which antislavery principles take root, grow, and flourish"

 

[cat_chaser]

Link?

There was a big stink made about it when? Last year? Maybe the year before.

Definitely not a new outrage. Not sure why you’d question it.

But Trump is not in office anymore so maybe everyone forgot about it

 

[funKYcat75]

There was a big stink made about it when? Last year? Maybe the year before.

Source? Link?

 

[cat_chaser]

The only proper response to nonsense like this is to say “it’s a beautiful song and the only people offended and outraged by it are people who look for things to be offended and outraged by”.

Long past time we stop catering/giving any sort of credence to these people. Andy’s ‘muh feelings, let’s talk about them’ approach is old, stale, and keeps them in the limelight.

 

[cat_chaser]

Source? Link?

GYERO.

 

[BeAllied]

Yet I'm hearing Dandy is studying the issue of dumping it. Why?

His dad had 8 years to do it...

 

[BeAllied]

"Andy might be skin, but he aint kin."

 

[chroix]

Gonna be a sad day when it happens, but it's a goner. It's inevitable.

 

[Tskware]

Gonna be a sad day when it happens, but it's a goner. It's inevitable.

Hope not, it is the most beautiful state song in the US, and yes, I am prejudiced, but I would like someone to refute the proposition.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Frederick Douglass wrote in his 1855 autobiography My Bondage and My Freedom that the song "awakens sympathies for the slave, in which antislavery principles take root, grow, and flourish"

Now now facts have no place in any modern discussion. It's all feelings.

This makes people uncomfortable so it's time for a discussion.

 

[funKYcat75]

Look! You answered your own question.

Yet I'm hearing Dandy is studying the issue of dumping it. Why?

Andy Beshear said he had not “specifically heard those concerns personally from community leaders.”

“It’s always right to have these conversations, but it’s one that’s going to take a little longer than the next week,” he said. “But when people are hurt by something… I think it’s incumbent on us to say please tell me why, let me listen and let me try to hear.”

 

[vhcat70]

Look! You answered your own question.

I didn't. Dandy did. And his answer makes zero sense.

 

[bkingUK]

It’s basically a song about the brutality of slavery and I honestly don’t think it’d be replaced. Although, if you suggest we should, it really triggers people

 

[CB3UK]

Eff this PC clown world nonsense.

 

[IdaCat]

Here's what I found: news story about the potential removal of MOKH.

Who made MOKH a political issue?

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Who made MOKH a political issue?

Andy. Not a recent issue until last year when he wanted to start a dialogue. Now he wants another one.

 

[IdaCat]

Andy. Not a recent issue until last year when he wanted to start a dialogue. Now he wants another one.

He's adding to his resume for a position with the DNC Politburo after the next election when he's thrown out on his ***.

Meanwhile, his base, the only ones who could stop him, maintain their role as good little PC subjects to the all powerful daddy state.

 

[Atrain7732]

We are way past the absurd at this point.

There is truly no end to the silliness. Only solace to me is that this pc woke nonsense will inevitably lead to the eating of their own.

 

[bkingUK]

So they aren’t getting rid of the state song and stated as much outright but you have a thread complaining about removing the state song. That’s because it’s not about politics or reality. It’s about getting a dopamine hit from likes and an adrenaline rush from anger. And that’s the internet in a nutshell

 

[WildcatFan1982]

 

[mrhotdice]

Frederick Douglass wrote in his 1855 autobiography My Bondage and My Freedom that the song "awakens sympathies for the slave, in which antislavery principles take root, grow, and flourish"

Fredrick Douglas can kiss my ***. Why,he’s dead. I’m alive and love tradition. My Old Kentucky is magic. End of story.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

Fredrick Douglas can kiss my ***. Why,he’s dead. I’m alive and love tradition. My Old Kentucky is magic. End of story.

Did you even read that quote? Fredrick Douglas is defending the song.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Well, at least the horses remained standing when MOKH was just played.

#GoodJobEquines

 

[KYExtemper]

Don't see this happening anytime soon, but it's telling that this year at the Derby they just played the instrumental.

I'm more interested in what they'd use to replace it because I can't think of anything.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

Don't see this happening anytime soon, but it's telling that this year at the Derby they just played the instrumental.

I'm more interested in what they'd use to replace it because I can't think of anything.

NSFW

Spoiler

 

[mrhotdice]

Did you even read that quote? Fredrick Douglas is defending the song.

No, you don’t understand. What Fredrick Douglas thought in 1855 matters not. The WOKE crowd are dangerous and cowards. Its the same with Rupp Arena.

 

[funKYcat75]

Don't see this happening anytime soon, but it's telling that this year at the Derby they just played the instrumental.

I'm more interested in what they'd use to replace it because I can't think of anything.

Isn’t it usually just the UofL band playing it anyway?

 

[rick64]

Don’t hear anyone complaining about the gangster rap garbage that talks about cop killing. Oh no we can’t stifle an artists creativity.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Isn’t it usually just the UofL band playing it anyway?

UK band needs future considerations.

 

[funKYcat75]

UK band needs future considerations.

The whole thing just needs to move to Keeneland.

 

[Nightwish84]

Isn’t it usually just the UofL band playing it anyway?

Correct. Usually the words are on the screen and (I imagine) video board there and the camera shows different spectators singing along. Didn't feel "as big" this year because you don't have 150k+ squeezed in and all singing.

 

[Spica Orbit]

Get rid of Dandy & the Derby for all I care. Good riddance to both.