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mule_eer

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That is incorrect. The correct answer is no one likes the media. You are a no-go at this station.
I think that's a sad statement on the state of politics in this country. The question was where he stands on the new healthcare bill after the CBO score came out. The response was to take the reporter to the ground. The response to the charge of assault was pure fabrication, retracted after the witnesses came forward. Maybe the candidate wasn't responsible for the lie. Maybe the campaign staff did that without his consent. The optics are bad. He made a mistake, and the first response was trying to lie to cover it up. Not what I look for in a representative. I'll allow you a mistake, but own it. To be fair, he did that in his acceptance speech. Of course that was after the votes were tallied and the campaign was over. It was also after the lie the campaign issued was exposed.

My larger concern, and this is regardless of party or politics, is that civil discourse is no longer civil. That's not solely a GOP problem or solely a Dem problem. I want my representatives and elected officials to answer hard questions. I want them to accept the challenge of dealing with those questions with intelligence and class. In this particular case, he did neither. Plenty of folks supporting Trump and opposing Trump acted similarly. It's not ok for anyone to act like that.
 

dave

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I think that's a sad statement on the state of politics in this country. The question was where he stands on the new healthcare bill after the CBO score came out. The response was to take the reporter to the ground. The response to the charge of assault was pure fabrication, retracted after the witnesses came forward. Maybe the candidate wasn't responsible for the lie. Maybe the campaign staff did that without his consent. The optics are bad. He made a mistake, and the first response was trying to lie to cover it up. Not what I look for in a representative. I'll allow you a mistake, but own it. To be fair, he did that in his acceptance speech. Of course that was after the votes were tallied and the campaign was over. It was also after the lie the campaign issued was exposed.

My larger concern, and this is regardless of party or politics, is that civil discourse is no longer civil. That's not solely a GOP problem or solely a Dem problem. I want my representatives and elected officials to answer hard questions. I want them to accept the challenge of dealing with those questions with intelligence and class. In this particular case, he did neither. Plenty of folks supporting Trump and opposing Trump acted similarly. It's not ok for anyone to act like that.
It is not sso much the question asked though. It was a reaction to not accepting his answer and shoving the phone more and more in his face. That doesnt justify it but I can understand the reaction.
 

mule_eer

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It is not sso much the question asked though. It was a reaction to not accepting his answer and shoving the phone more and more in his face. That doesnt justify it but I can understand the reaction.
I worry about someone who can't handle the stress of a campaign. How is he going to react on the hill? That reporter wasn't overly aggressive, especially compared to what he's going to see.
 

mule_eer

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Did you vote for Hillary?
Nope. Part of the reason I didn't vote for her is that she was trying to avoid FOIA scrutiny by running her own email server. I thought that she could have avoided that scrutiny by not accepting the job as Sec of State. If you take the job, you have to accept the scrutiny.

I'll add that I didn't vote for Trump either. Hillary had mishandled classified info. I suspected that the only reason Trump had not is that he never had the opportunity to. It looks like my assessment of him was pretty close on that front.
 

dave

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I worry about someone who can't handle the stress of a campaign. How is he going to react on the hill? That reporter wasn't overly aggressive, especially compared to what he's going to see.
You mean in the house? Its not like the house of commons. They push a button and vote.