Give your letter grade for this recruiting season and give 2 grades. The first grade is for the class itself, the second grade is for the coaching staff. Put the grades in the title of your post so everyone can easily see. If you want to explain your grades, feel free to do so in the body of your post.
Give your letter grade for this recruiting season.....(2 grades please)
- Thread starter MadDawg.sixpack
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Give your letter grade for this recruiting season and give 2 grades. The first grade is for the class itself, the second grade is for the coaching staff. Put the grades in the title of your post so everyone can easily see. If you want to explain your grades, feel free to do so in the body of your post.
class gets a C. Decent class but not spectacular. Lost out on most of the CL most wanted.
coaching staff gets a D. After putting together an A+ coaching performance during the season, there were just too many defections and no big surprises (good surprises anyway). Got to learn how to close the deal.
coaching staff gets a D. After putting together an A+ coaching performance during the season, there were just too many defections and no big surprises (good surprises anyway). Got to learn how to close the deal.
I won't grade this class until we've had them on the field a few years.? Like a Masoli pass: Incomplete.
The coaching staff gets a D because they lost quite a few commitments late in the season.? Winning the Egg and Gator Bowls should have brought us an uptick at the end.? It didn't.
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The coaching staff gets a D because they lost quite a few commitments late in the season.? Winning the Egg and Gator Bowls should have brought us an uptick at the end.? It didn't.
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OM got 8 dandy dozens (3 of which we thought we had locked), we got 2. Welcome to our State. Lost out on 2 big need positions in CJ and Mackey. Color me very unimpressed. This staff better learn to sell, quickly.</p>
The signees get a B, because it's probably a better class than most think. The coaches get a C for the poor finish.
And everybody else (AD leadership, our cigar guys, Steve, Gene and all the rest) gets an F for not stepping up. It's apparent that Ole Miss' non-coaching staff recruiters are better than ours.
And everybody else (AD leadership, our cigar guys, Steve, Gene and all the rest) gets an F for not stepping up. It's apparent that Ole Miss' non-coaching staff recruiters are better than ours.
I'm basing these rankings off of what is feasible for MSU to be able to achieve at this point in our program.
Class: I think there are still some decent guys in the class that fill some important roles. Dak is a player and could be the best QB we've had in a long time. Morrow is a tall WR that can stretch the field. Haven't had a legit WR threat in a while, and no O'Neal Wilder doesn't count. Arrington, whatever role he plays for us, is a big hitter and can play LB or safety. Justin Cox is a tall, fast corner that I think can hang in the SEC once he gets more experience on the defensive side of the football. PJ Jones gets to learn from Cox and Boyd and should be SEC ready in a few years.
Fosselman has good hands, Milton will be a good RB, Darius Slay should be able to come in and start at CB. Good depth from some other guys. I think this is a talented class, but obviously not what it could have been. We have added more speed, some depth at corner, a good QB and a tall WR in this class. We haven't had that in a long time, so that's why the B+. We get 3 of 4 out of Singleton, Brassell, CJ, and Whitehead and this is an A+ class.
Coaching staff: Bad job closing. We had some coaching turnover during a very crucial recruiting period, and I still think that it did play a bit of a factor for some guys. We have to remember we have some depth on this team. WR is deep, QB is now deep, DL is deep, and safety is deep. We can't pitch instant PT tosome of these guys. I also think we have a class that all WANT to be at MSU and some guys that have stuff to prove. This class will be very close with one another, and I think that will be very good for us in the future.Toward the end a lot of personalities starting coming out and it seemed like it became way more about them than it did theschool they were going to.
I still think this is a solid class that will provide some good starters and some quality SEC caliber depth. We had a good year last year, but if we want Top 20 classes, we have to do it more consistently. Until we can prove that we can do that, classes like this will still happen. This proves we still have a tough hill to climb to compete with recruits against the rest of the SEC.
Class: I think there are still some decent guys in the class that fill some important roles. Dak is a player and could be the best QB we've had in a long time. Morrow is a tall WR that can stretch the field. Haven't had a legit WR threat in a while, and no O'Neal Wilder doesn't count. Arrington, whatever role he plays for us, is a big hitter and can play LB or safety. Justin Cox is a tall, fast corner that I think can hang in the SEC once he gets more experience on the defensive side of the football. PJ Jones gets to learn from Cox and Boyd and should be SEC ready in a few years.
Fosselman has good hands, Milton will be a good RB, Darius Slay should be able to come in and start at CB. Good depth from some other guys. I think this is a talented class, but obviously not what it could have been. We have added more speed, some depth at corner, a good QB and a tall WR in this class. We haven't had that in a long time, so that's why the B+. We get 3 of 4 out of Singleton, Brassell, CJ, and Whitehead and this is an A+ class.
Coaching staff: Bad job closing. We had some coaching turnover during a very crucial recruiting period, and I still think that it did play a bit of a factor for some guys. We have to remember we have some depth on this team. WR is deep, QB is now deep, DL is deep, and safety is deep. We can't pitch instant PT tosome of these guys. I also think we have a class that all WANT to be at MSU and some guys that have stuff to prove. This class will be very close with one another, and I think that will be very good for us in the future.Toward the end a lot of personalities starting coming out and it seemed like it became way more about them than it did theschool they were going to.
I still think this is a solid class that will provide some good starters and some quality SEC caliber depth. We had a good year last year, but if we want Top 20 classes, we have to do it more consistently. Until we can prove that we can do that, classes like this will still happen. This proves we still have a tough hill to climb to compete with recruits against the rest of the SEC.
We got a few really good players, but for the most part we got a lot of projects. This was a piss poor job by our staff, plain and simple they got beatdown. </p>
We have some good guys on the top (Marrow, Arrington, Dak), the middle is good (Jones, Milton, etc.), but the bottom of the class is weak.
D for the coaches for obvious reasons and I think I am being generous.
D for the coaches for obvious reasons and I think I am being generous.
I'm not going to hate on any recruits and we've got some very good recruits in;PJ Jones, Dee, Zach Jackson Morrow, Milton, Dak etc... that will fit our system. And the less heralded guys want to be here and work to earn their spot. That show heart and I respect that.
As for the coaches they have to get an F because of the late flips that all went against us. You can't lose 2 JUCO DE's right out from under your nose when you have immediate needs in that position. Plus losing a kid to Vandy. Add in all the early defectors and it was a total cleveland steamer type performance.
One caveat however is that we should have expected a letdown year after the Cam Newton fiasco. We were come at from all sides and basically left defenseless. The media payed us no favors with the constant rumors of Mullen leaving, the utter desperation of Houston Nutt and a scorned Ole Miss Booster set, Auburn recruiting like there is no tomorrow for them, and we a great Coordinator and a great recruiter.
As for the coaches they have to get an F because of the late flips that all went against us. You can't lose 2 JUCO DE's right out from under your nose when you have immediate needs in that position. Plus losing a kid to Vandy. Add in all the early defectors and it was a total cleveland steamer type performance.
One caveat however is that we should have expected a letdown year after the Cam Newton fiasco. We were come at from all sides and basically left defenseless. The media payed us no favors with the constant rumors of Mullen leaving, the utter desperation of Houston Nutt and a scorned Ole Miss Booster set, Auburn recruiting like there is no tomorrow for them, and we a great Coordinator and a great recruiter.
Not aterrible class, but not good enough to take it to the next level. In fact, string 2 of these together, and State will slip a notch.
Coaches didn't get it done, period. Losing Hudspeth and Diaz opened the door, and no one on the staff apparently knew how to close it. I am very, very disappointed with the haul after what it appeared we had lined up for months on end. Coaching defections and booster money did us in. Must learn how to do better next year. Another 8 to 9 win season and experience of what our in state competition will do to steal a recruit should go a long way toward avoiding another meltdown next signing day.
Chalk it up to experience for Dan Mullen. He's a smart guy. Lessons have been learned.
Coaches didn't get it done, period. Losing Hudspeth and Diaz opened the door, and no one on the staff apparently knew how to close it. I am very, very disappointed with the haul after what it appeared we had lined up for months on end. Coaching defections and booster money did us in. Must learn how to do better next year. Another 8 to 9 win season and experience of what our in state competition will do to steal a recruit should go a long way toward avoiding another meltdown next signing day.
Chalk it up to experience for Dan Mullen. He's a smart guy. Lessons have been learned.
Not sure about the coaching staff though. If money is getting in the way, not sure what our coaches can do about that. If they simply are not selling our program well enough, that's something else. But we really have no idea what they tell these guys.
I am optimistic about this class, in fact, I really feel good about it. Will spare you the in-depth analysis.
Coaches, mostly Mullen, get a bad grade for not having a back-up plan for losing Diaz and Hudspeth. If you are getting paid millions, think about everything that can happen, and have a contigency plan. If some of the rumors are true, maybe there was nothing that could have been done to save some of these players. However, I got the impression that when Diaz and Hudspeth left, we were left scrambling.
Coaches, mostly Mullen, get a bad grade for not having a back-up plan for losing Diaz and Hudspeth. If you are getting paid millions, think about everything that can happen, and have a contigency plan. If some of the rumors are true, maybe there was nothing that could have been done to save some of these players. However, I got the impression that when Diaz and Hudspeth left, we were left scrambling.
is your grade for the coaching staff suppose to be for their coaching ability or strictly their performance in recruiting? If the latter I don't see how you can give the class high marks and coach's low marks.
I like about half of our class. I don't expect Market, Smith, Knox, Redmond, Calhoun, Trapp or Warren to ever contribute much, and Robinson and Perry will go to prep school or JUCO.
We needed LBs and only signed McKinney. There is a chance Arrington and Jackson could grow into LBs.
We have three juniors and one senior at DT, and we only signed one DT. We also signed only one last year. That is worrisome.
I'm not worried about the secondary.
We signed five OL, but with the exception of Maiden , they are all huge projects.
I like Milton at RB. He is very similar to Ballard.
Losing out on Mackey was a huge blow to this class. I think Smith is average at best, but I like Harris. I wouldn't be surprised if Harris plays as a freshman. The thought of Ferguson as out best DE is pretty damn scary. We are going to have to sign a **** ton of DL next year.
The coaches failed to close on anyone down the stretch, and they settled for stealing recruits from Fedora. We need to expand out recruiting base, and the coaches need to learn to close. I think we will sign a much better class next year. We will have to.
We needed LBs and only signed McKinney. There is a chance Arrington and Jackson could grow into LBs.
We have three juniors and one senior at DT, and we only signed one DT. We also signed only one last year. That is worrisome.
I'm not worried about the secondary.
We signed five OL, but with the exception of Maiden , they are all huge projects.
I like Milton at RB. He is very similar to Ballard.
Losing out on Mackey was a huge blow to this class. I think Smith is average at best, but I like Harris. I wouldn't be surprised if Harris plays as a freshman. The thought of Ferguson as out best DE is pretty damn scary. We are going to have to sign a **** ton of DL next year.
The coaches failed to close on anyone down the stretch, and they settled for stealing recruits from Fedora. We need to expand out recruiting base, and the coaches need to learn to close. I think we will sign a much better class next year. We will have to.
assuming that the coaches are getting judged on recruiting. I think we got a C- class so I guess the coaches performed at a C- level. I'm still surprised that it looks like we will only sign 2 JUCOs especially given our needs at DE and LB.
Our coaches didn't close on the previously committed. I am sure they will learn from this mistake and move on. I am excited about the commits we have coming in. They seem to be high caliber people that are determined to work hard. Here's to the next year.
There is no reason to lose that many guys that committed to you.
I do trust that Dan has learned from this year, and will correct it however.
I do trust that Dan has learned from this year, and will correct it however.
Think the class will be okay, due to almost entire class redshirting last year, this wont be as bad as it looks. This entire class with the exception of Arrington should be able to redshirt.
Incomplete for coaches. It all started with CJ and I dont know how to grade a coach/staff when you are comparing apples and freight trains as far as what we had to recruit against. CJ got alot of others wondering and I think put out a negative pr vibe that we couldnt get away from.
I will wait and give these coaches the benefit of the doubt, they got their *** handed to them this year and now Mullen shouldnt have any doubt what he is up against with the Male Cheerleader Trent Lott type$ pumping cash and lies about.
Incomplete for coaches. It all started with CJ and I dont know how to grade a coach/staff when you are comparing apples and freight trains as far as what we had to recruit against. CJ got alot of others wondering and I think put out a negative pr vibe that we couldnt get away from.
I will wait and give these coaches the benefit of the doubt, they got their *** handed to them this year and now Mullen shouldnt have any doubt what he is up against with the Male Cheerleader Trent Lott type$ pumping cash and lies about.
