Global Climate Changes
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7,000 ish February days have been measured and recorded. This February has already had 3 days in the top 20. I don’t guess your a math guy, but 20 into 7,000, means it shouldn’t be happening this often
The hospitalization rates (I hate to talk about death rates and Covid) fell because of the actions we took but you spin the falling hospitalization rates as a sign that Covid was overblown? Can't you see the glaring flaw in your argument?
We didn't just have Covid in the US, it was global. You have numerous other countries to look at. How does your argument hold up to say, Italy?
Why do you guys intentionally fool yourselves with easily disprovable fantasies? I don't understand what you get out of it?
Have you ever read a book about any other plague or pandemic? They always have to learn on the fly and mistakes are made all over the place until we finally get a grip on things yet you take this normal process as a sign of a global hoax for money?
As I said above, you have the whole world of information at your fingertips. Stop just focusing on the US reaction as ignorant naive Republicans skewed everything. Take your ideas and apply them globally and see if they hold up.
As for Climate Change (which is what this thread is for) then you'd have to believe there is no such thing as green house gasses, that since human industrialization began the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has not increased well above 400ppm and climbing steadily, and that all around the globe we are not witnessing in real time the effects of that increase.
These are easily measurable things. Scientific certainties. You have to be willfully delusional to believe what you people believe. It boggles my mind that you purposefully choose to be ignorant.
Meanwhile, it rained a lot today in Kentucky. We must do something!
Three days in the top 20 of one specific area? And I‘d be willing to guess that a big chunk of those 7,000 February days were estimated, not exact, unless there were some extinct mammals keeping exact records of daily temps in 4,000 BC. Also, earth is approx 4.5 billion years old, so the far more likely option is that this is just a blip within a tiny blip of earth’s history. though I’m sure fossil-fuel generation is far harder on earth than a giant meteor strike or massive ice ages or huge volcanic eruptions. F-150s and cow farts are definitely doing earth in.
This article itself says that it can’t draw broad conclusions. Using excess deaths as the primary data, but not cause of death.Medical Economics. Dec 14.2022
More Republicans than Democrats died after COVID-19 vaccines were available
Researchers analyze pandemic mortality, ‘excess deaths,’ along party lines in two states.www.medicaleconomics.com
My memory wasn't the best. Republican deaths were 74% higher than Democrat. And my memory divided the 74 by the 26.
The article was right at the top of my Google search: republican deaths from covid after vaccines.
What Google search did you use?
It uses Florida and Ohio for data. No doubt in Florida especially, many older people who didn’t get vaccinated may have died from Covid more often.
Does this mean the vaccine was effective? Or could it mean that Republicans actually got out and lived their lives instead of hiding, thus risking greater exposure? Could it be areas where people didn’t have the best healthcare access to begin with? Lifestyle choices?
It’s also hard to imagine that in early 2023, there’s anyone touting the Covid “vaccines”. In the long haul, I’m very afraid for people who’ve had multiple shots.
Not dangerous enough for the damage done to our country.
I was very saddened to see how many adults threw the future of young people right into the dumpster over something they had a 99.98% chance of surviving. Shocked, actually, and still very much so.
200% chance Dreadlox thinks fibromyalgia and long Covid are real.
It may not reach 40 today in Louisville. The average high is 47. No golf today.
Try your best to play anyway. If not, we will have record highs next week
Am I wrong, weatherman? I am just trying to shout the weather. I thought that is what this thread had become. Midwest weather announced near daily!
If this was not a thread about Neptune, I would change the title to Global Greening vs Climate Apartheid.
Covid and climate change have the same argument. "Trust the experts".... well we saw the "experts" don't know dick except how to get tax and spend money we don't ******* have.
It's snow flurries and cold here in bg. Global warming must have taken a rest day.
Arizona got hit with cold this week, if we are checking.
Record lows for Vegas last month
Some models have the climate cooling over the next 2 decades. Could this be proof?!?!
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Then instead of focusing on something stupid like your daily local weather start thinking about the things you depend upon trying to adapt to that daily rate of change. From 75 to 30 from 62 to 38 from 78 to 40 all in a day or two, Then add on drought then flooding then baking heat and fire then 20" of rain in a day.
The climate is screaming at you that it is out of balance. A climate goes out of balance when it is assuming a new state with all new rules because the previous state no longer exists.
The jet stream is failing. The oceans are loaded with heat energy. The atmosphere is saturated. The oceans are turning acidic. The poles are heating at record rates. Ice is receding around the globe. Million year old ice shelves are collapsing. Methane is pulsing into the upper atmosphere.
In response, all around you, today, you are living in the midst of earth's 6th mass extinction event.
Didn’t you say we have until September October of this year in an earlier post until we all vanish from global warming/climate change ?
And I spoke to climate the other day, she wasn’t screaming she said I’ll have another beer if you can spare one
Dude, it’s your compatriot lapdog @Kingseve1 that turned this into a local weather discussion. Not me.
And, yet, you then focus on weather events as proof of your claim.
Your ilk focuses on failed hockey sticks, grossly mistaken predictions, faulty claims about hurricanes, fear that only focuses on anthropogenic etiology, and denies the greening of the world and the positives seen for people over the past few decades. You claim false tipping points. I just don’t accept your fear-mongering or its underlying purpose.
No. The energies involved in AGW can be calculated from quantum mechanical foundations. The same physics behind your phones, computers, etc.
The people behind the script of doubt about AGW are the same people who were behind tobacco and cancer. I just can't imagine the motivation. Don't you want to pass on a better world? Who is that nihilistic?
What a pile of crap. No, the science is not exact. False. And, the money bends toward the fear-mongering exaggeration, not against. Big tobacco! LOL!!!
"The science" is settled and "climate change" is as serious as cancer from tobacco? Lol what a load.
They will not accept measurable data as proof. Their entire world is based on "belief" and ingrained cultural ignorance. They respond with distortions and mischaracterizations then laugh it up like some SNL spoof of rural hillbillies.
I saw so many of them while growing up. Like they celebrate ignorance. They are offended by intelligence. It's how a culture propagates poverty and failure generation after generation in rural hollows and remote farmlands.
Ignorance keeps them in place usefully. To fear and misunderstand the bigger world around them. Of course the brightest and the strongest break and out leave so those left behind learned to focus their ire on intelligence as a coping mechanism for having stayed in place and accepted their fate to never become more than their humble beginnings.
We annually rank among the most uneducated and poverty stricken for a reason and many of those reasons are posting here. Laugh and celebrate your blinding ignorance. Scoff at the collective world's greatest scientific institutions. The history is clear on why you are you and the rest of the world moved on without you leaving you to yourselves to wallow in your generational ignorance.
I saw so many of them while growing up. Like they celebrate ignorance. They are offended by intelligence. It's how a culture propagates poverty and failure generation after generation in rural hollows and remote farmlands.
Ignorance keeps them in place usefully. To fear and misunderstand the bigger world around them. Of course the brightest and the strongest break and out leave so those left behind learned to focus their ire on intelligence as a coping mechanism for having stayed in place and accepted their fate to never become more than their humble beginnings.
We annually rank among the most uneducated and poverty stricken for a reason and many of those reasons are posting here. Laugh and celebrate your blinding ignorance. Scoff at the collective world's greatest scientific institutions. The history is clear on why you are you and the rest of the world moved on without you leaving you to yourselves to wallow in your generational ignorance.
Scoffing isn't evidence or even an argument. The science behind AGW is 19th century stuff.
Scoffing because you simply don't want AGW to be true is crazy. It isn't going to keep it from happening.
The glaring problem here is that hoof and mouth disease wasn't a virus or bacteria... It was a prion. It's like watching a kindergarten kid pretend to be a scientist. I don't even think you know what the difference is and what the facts of hoof and mouth are.
Why were English people able to raise grapes during the medieval warm period? England only grew grapes during one time frame and even given our ability to modify plants they cannot grow grapes in England like they did during that time.
The leaks from the IPCC leaks would disagree with your doom and gloom. Also your pro war stance in Ukraine seems to point to you being a huge hypocrite. We can't fight the sun and Russia and China while still having a functioning economy. I am coming around to you being a parody acct. No way you are the same guy in both threads.
A doctor in 1948 won the Nobel Prize... for the invention of the lobotomy... which was "settled science"... at that time.
Are you thinking of Creutzfeldt-Jakobs Disease? That's a prion. It is usually transmitted by eating the flesh of an infected animal. Particularly -- IIRC -- the brain. Or maybe Mad Cow Disease (BSE) That's a prion, too.
Foot-and-mouth (formerly called hoof-and-mouth) and Hand, Foot, and Mouth are viral**. I can't keep the names straight. Foot and mouth (formerly hoof and mouth) is an animal disease. Hand, Foot, and Mouth is a human disease.
Regardless, your objection isn't germane to the issue which was how farmers in England didn't keep their animals isolated and so the disease kept springing up. My knowledge of the disease isn't as a medical professional but as a tourist who was delayed at customs for 40 minutes for walking through a field where sheep grazed.
You really turn the volume up to 11.
Lobotomies were never considered "settled science" they were always controversial:
Frontal lobotomies have always been controversial, even when they were mainstream. The surgery was risky and permanently altered the patient's personality. Many patients died and many more awoke with severe, life-changing side effects and disabilities.
I don't know where you got your info. England grew wine grapes until during WW1 fields had to be turned to other things. There are lots of grapes grown there today.
The medieval warm period (MWP) was not a global phenomenon. It was a regional anomaly.
When people think about variability they seem to imagine that there's some force called Variability that grows or shrinks, but there is no independent force called Variability. Some specific force grows or shrinks. Currently we're increasing atmospheric CO2. That's the force that's pushing the warming.
Uh... He won the Nobel Prize. You can't act like it wasn't mainstream... when that exact word is in your counter.
Thanks for proving my point.
While we argue about the validity of Fox News crazies.
It’s gonna be in the 70s and 80s for the next 10 days in a row in Birmingham. We will likely break a record on Thursday.
Who needs to move to a south Florida for winter when you can get it in central Alabama.
It’s gonna be in the 70s and 80s for the next 10 days in a row in Birmingham. We will likely break a record on Thursday.
Who needs to move to a south Florida for winter when you can get it in central Alabama.
Wouldn't expect you to get it. Its waaay to nuanced an argument for you to understand.