Goodbye season....

DowntownDawg

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...we've got nothing. No excuse to lose to these clowns.

This may be the start of the end of the road for Rick. We've got nothing down low. His recruiting has gotten us this.
 

DowntownDawg

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...we've got nothing. No excuse to lose to these clowns.

This may be the start of the end of the road for Rick. We've got nothing down low. His recruiting has gotten us this.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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...we've been fighting for home court advantage in the NIT since the San Deigo loss.

This loss just put us on the road for the first couple of NIT games.

But I will agree it sucks to lose @home to an Ole Miss team who is using bench players & who has a head coach would be unemployed right now if he coached at any Mississippi high school.
 

Dawgbreeze

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coach you are gloating I'm sure but you are also full of crap. Terrico White is better than any they lost and we lost because we took bad shots, couldn't make the good ones we had and Ole Miss just beat us. You have been screaming all year for Osby and Augustus. You got them and Osby again missed two freebies which really hurt us and Stewart played badly.
 

Coach34

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today's results speak for themselves. And Mississippi is missing 3 of their best players, you cant spin that- its a fact
 

DowntownDawg

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....today. A week off, against your arch rival, with three missing players and a swirling controversy, and you lose on your home floor. His recruiting has gone way down hill. We have no big man. Our offense consists of throwing up prayers. We're done this year and it will be tough to make it next year unless Osby or Augustus or Bailey steps up big time and we can have some kind of inside offensive presence.
 

Dawgbreeze

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Not any long drawn out discussion, I think I know a hell of a lot more about basketball than you and it isn't Stans fault that Jarvis walked 4 times, we missed freebies that were critical, and shot the ball poorly. We played badly and yet had a chance to have a one point game with 11 seconds left with a chance to foul and have a shot yet we missed the freebie and the game was over. It is a fine line and I give Ole Miss credit but Stans played all the big men you folks have been crying for all year and they didn't come through. Blame Stans all you want to but I think his record speaks for itself and you folks will complain no matter how much we win. Shooting the ball like Ole Miss did today will make any coach look good . It is a simple game.
 

graddawg

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Dawgbreeze said:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Not any long drawn out discussion, I think I know a hell of a lot more about basketball than you</span> and it isn't Stans fault that Jarvis walked 4 times, we missed freebies that were critical, and shot the ball poorly. We played badly and yet had a chance to have a one point game with 11 seconds left with a chance to foul and have a shot yet we missed the freebie and the game was over. It is a fine line and I give Ole Miss credit but Stans played all the big men you folks have been crying for all year and they didn't come through. Blame Stans all you want to but I think his record speaks for itself and you folks will complain no matter how much we win. Shooting the ball like Ole Miss did today will make any coach look good . It is a simple game.
I love when people say this. Either play your cards and post your credentials or don't post **** like this.
 

Agentdog

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Shooting the ball like Ole Miss did today will make any coach look good . It is a simple game.
....and this. I love how people, who claim to know basketball, think it is a game of horse. It isn't like the teams are putting up set shots either. Well, except teams that play us.

For as long as I have watched Stans teams, it has always been other teams get open looks. On the other end, we struggle to run any offense and only get open looks in transition or from loose rebounds.
 

Coach34

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1. "I think I know a hell of a lot more about basketball than you"- no you dont
2. "it isn't Stans fault that Jarvis walked 4 times"- its whomever coaches the post players and ultimately with Ricky- Mississippi clearly picked up on film that Jarvis easily gets off-balance when receiving the ball in the post. They gave ground and made him shuffle his feet.- thats coaching
3. "We played badly and yet had a chance to have a one point game with 11 seconds left" - against a team that was on the road and is missing 3 of its best players after we had a damn week to get ready. How is being down a point with 11 seconds left a good thing?
4. "but Stans played all the big men you folks have been crying for all year"- yeah because Turner was getting raped in the paint
5. "Blame Stans all you want to but I think his record speaks for itself"- yep, one NCAA Tourney in the last 4 years...next year will be his last if he doesnt make it in 2010.
 

Frances Drebin

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...what kind of credentials he posts. Dawgbreeze's "knowledge" has been on display enough times to know how much "knowledge" he really has.
 

DowntownDawg

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....you don't know ****. Like graddawg said, post your basketball credentials if you've got any. Otherwise, this keyboard makes me as much of an expert as you or anybody on this board.

We have NO OFFENSIVE PRESENCE INSIDE. Varnado is a defensive player. He is too skinny to bang down low. None of the other guys have stepped up. Stansbury's recruiting has failed us. You don't lose that game at home.
 

Coach34

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"Stansbury's recruiting has failed us"

Its not recruiting, we have players. They have to be taught something at some point
 

Dawgbreeze

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Okay, experts. We have no inside presence you say. When we played Augustus and Osby we had inside presence and they fumbled the ball away and when fouled threw up bricks from the foul line. We shot the ball awfully from outside and yet still had a chance to win. Jarvis is too skinny. What should we do, bench him? Winning 4 out of the last five SEC west titles means nothing to you, yet you would salivate if it ever happened in football. We use some sense and foul a 43% free throw shoooter in the end and he makes them. You sorry excuses for MSU fans would rather lose so you could ***** than win and be happy. And by the way, I was All Big 8, All- State and started for one championship Big 8 team as well as Juco Championship team, so don't act you like you know everything about basketball, because you don't know anything except how to coach after the game is over. And by the way coach, how many champioships have you ever won against big time opponents? I will state it again, turnovers and poor shooting killed us. Blame it all you want to on coaching but even when we attacked the zone properly, Augustus and Osby couldn;t make a simple pass to each other for a wide open lay up. It was not the plan other than some of our kids were impatient at times.
 

Coach34

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SEC West title- football - usually equals BCS bowl
SEC West title- baseball- usually means top national seed

SEC West title- basketball- an 8 seed and an NIT bid</p>

1 NCAA Tourney in the last 4 years...you better hope Ricky keeps these guys together this offseason or it will be his last one as coach at MSU</p>
 

DowntownDawg

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...and Jarvis is too skinny. And if you want to say that we SHOULD have somebody between Kodi, Brian, and Elgin on this roster that can step up and at least play Brandon Vincent basketball, then I can't disagree with that. At the end of the day, it's the same person's fault.
 

Frances Drebin

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...Stansbury made a decision to go small a few games back, and that won him some games. But when you jack up a lot of ill-advised threes and a lot of them go in, morons like you enjoy coming on here and bragging about how great a coach Stans is. The reality is the only way we're going to win games is if our guys are hot from the perimeter. We're going to live and die by the three. And it doesn't have to be that way, but that's apparently what Stans thinks is his best chance. Screw offense, we're going to run down and jack up ill-advised shots. I saw Varnado twice in this game just come unglued and get all over Bost after he took bad jumpers. And I don't blame him. No wonder so many guys want to get the hell out of dodge.

As for the lack of post presence, it's Stansbury's fault for not having them here or developing what he has. Bailey could be serviceable with the right coaching. So could Johnson.

As for your credentials, I don't care if you are Michael Jordan, any credibility you have, you virtually destroy with your enlightening posts.
 

Dawgbreeze

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Yes Franny dear, but Bailey and Johsnon were suspended before the game for curfew violations and I guess if you guys were coaching you would have let them play. You are correct in that we will live and die by the three. We died today because we shot 31%. It is that simple but I'll stand by our coach who can adjust and is a disciplinarian and he doesn't have to prove to me he belongs in the top 3 coaches in the league and no matter how much you guys *****, he will keep us competitive and we will not be emabarrassed by him for character issues either.
 

Frances Drebin

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...were eligible in games before today. I wasn't speaking of just this game. Those guys could be contributors if they had someone to help make them better. You conveniently glossed over that point, and hell, I don't blame you, since you don't have a rational argument to make.

Yeah, I love that we're competitive....in a bad conference and a bad non-conference schedule. Let's all be proud that we're competitive aGAINst teams with sub 60 RPIs. One thing about expectations...when you set them low enough, you never have to worry about being disappointed.
 

dpaul798

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Dawgbreeze said:
Not any long drawn out discussion, I think I know a hell of a lot more about basketball than you and it isn't Stans fault that Jarvis walked 4 times, we missed freebies that were critical, and shot the ball poorly. We played badly and yet had a chance to have a one point game with 11 seconds left with a chance to foul and have a shot yet we missed the freebie and the game was over. It is a fine line and I give Ole Miss credit but Stans played all the big men you folks have been crying for all year and they didn't come through. Blame Stans all you want to but I think his record speaks for itself and you folks will complain no matter how much we win. Shooting the ball like Ole Miss did today will make any coach look good . It is a simple game.

not stans fault??? at this time of year if we are as ****** as we were today then its ALWAYS the head coaches fault. they are his damn players! he needs to recruit better or coach better. period. either way it all rests on his shoulders. thats what big time college coaching is about.
 

Dawgbreeze

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You say we can't improve players because we have no coaching. Is Jarvis better than he was when he got here? How about Ravern? You now say we can't improve post players ,yet last year with Rhodes and before that with Roberts, we were dominant in the post. The facts are, players have to make plays and Bost is still young and will only get better. Now do I want a big man, of course, but the ones we have have been injured more than they have not and if you want to blame that on Stans too, then go ahead.
 

DowntownDawg

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...do you really have 1000 posts and you still don't know how to reply?

Nobody knows who you are talking to.
 

Coach34

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"before that with Roberts, we were dominant in the post"

Roberts was an all-conference player before Ricky got his hands on him...Rhodes showed he could score early on, and I would dare say 4 years of playing SEC basketball probably taught him as much as anything...Ravern? I'd say he didnt play enough last year or we would have seen more of what a good scorer he can be...Hell, he shot over 50% in HS from 3 pt range...if you really want to tout Ravern as a defensive player, then you are retarded.

We arent going to change your mind- you arent going to change ours...but the point remains- we arent going to the NCAA Tourney this year- and that makes 1 trip in the last 4 years. Next year his job will be on the line
 

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MSU loses and all the naysayers come out calling for the end of the Stansbury era....MSU wins and they disappear with the "other side" coming out of the woodwork. All that goes on while tv observers declare they feel that Stansbury is the most underrated coach in the SEC. Of course the anti Stans folks will say the tv guys are stupid and the other side will point to those announcers as the real experts. It is a never ending debate. It seems a team and its coaches should not be judged on one game but an entire season. Last time I looked, we have a long way to go.
 

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You say we can't improve players because we have no coaching. Is Jarvis better than he was when he got here? How about Ravern? You now say we can't improve post players ,yet last year with Rhodes and before that with Roberts, we were dominant in the post.
you really dare to say his logic defies logic in the same post as this crap???

ROBERTS WAS A STUD FOR THE 2 YEARS BEFORE MSU!! **** he averaged the same damn numbers as a freshman and sophmore that he did at MSU. he wasnt coached up at MSU.
and Rhodes improved, i agree. but im not so sure how much of that wasnt just natural improvement due to talent, experience, and maturation.

Ravern has improved greatly too. But he was a lights out shooter before coming to MSU, so to see him be a lights out shooter at MSU really shouldnt be a surprise or a credit to the coaching. ****, the coaches recruited the guy BECAUSE he could shoot so well.