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Yet Jon being the most worthy ended up with shite without s single mention of it was his throne to begin with to be banish to a purpose and a place that has no meaning with white walkers gone and peace with the wildlings. Just dumb. All the buildup of secret lineage and Dannny’s journey to have rainman as king who had no desire whatsoever and no purpose as king after he is no longer bran but the three eyed raven.
Cersei deserves a more heinous death. Prophesies were crap. Lineage storyline was crap. Just to have a council name Bran. That was terrible. 8 years of story for nothing.
Cersei deserves a more heinous death. Prophesies were crap. Lineage storyline was crap. Just to have a council name Bran. That was terrible. 8 years of story for nothing.
It was a **** ending. I can’t defend it. Let’s banish the hero of Westeros because the Unsullied want to execute him. Oh look, they’re leaving in their ships. Welp, we better stick to our word! Just nonsense.
Yeah, 17 the unsullied and the darthraky. I didn’t like them when they were the good guys. And Denarys needed a more painful death.
I find it hilarious that both the Dothraki and unsullied armies seem to grow with every episode after the battle against the Night King. It’s like they respawned after the battle.
I think the story works a whole lot better if Bran was manipulating everyone all along to get himself crowned king, than if it just happened that way out of the blue.
I agree with this. Everyone mad because he didn’t get the throne
17 the throne. He gets to retire away from all that craziness, live a long peaceful life with plenty of land and can look for another hot wildling to hot tub with.
17 the throne. He gets to retire away from all that craziness, live a long peaceful life with plenty of land and can look for another hot wildling to hot tub with.
The thing was that no one stood up for him and spoke the truth about his lineage. He should have had the chance to turn it down. Which I think he would have. He did what no one else did or could have. He was the true heir. They could have let him turn it down and that would have made more sense than to banish him to a night’s watch which has a pointless existence now.
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John was never happier than he was when living with the Wildlings. He had also enjoyed being in the Nightwatch. He ABSOLUTELY had no interest in being King. Didn't want it...period. His ending, while not exciting was actually appropriate. Hell, he was willing to accept being burned to a crisp by Dannny's dragon to "do his duty".
Worked out. Also leaves the door wide open for multiple follow up series. Bran The Broken. Queen of The North. Arya's Journey West of Westeros.
Worked out. Also leaves the door wide open for multiple follow up series. Bran The Broken. Queen of The North. Arya's Journey West of Westeros.
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I didn’t get to watch live and saw all the hate on twitter before I started. Went in thinking it was going to be a train wreck, but I just finished and I actually really liked the episode. This was not their best season overall, but the finale worked very well for me.
The show peaked with its first four seasons (Seasons 5 and 6 had some fantastic episodes too). Within the context of a rushed season like this one, I was really satisfied with how the finale turned out. I think they missed an opportunity to let this be the greatest TV show of all time by shortening the last two seasons, though. Still enjoyed the show immensely from start to finish and will definitely miss it now that it’s over.
The show peaked with its first four seasons (Seasons 5 and 6 had some fantastic episodes too). Within the context of a rushed season like this one, I was really satisfied with how the finale turned out. I think they missed an opportunity to let this be the greatest TV show of all time by shortening the last two seasons, though. Still enjoyed the show immensely from start to finish and will definitely miss it now that it’s over.
That's my initial question. He did give some clues that he foresaw this. He tells all about Jon. He helps setup the night king. He tells Jon that he was exactly where he needed to be. He says to Tyrion at the end that was why he traveled all this way.
I just don't think they gave us enough breadcrumbs earlier.
I just don't think they gave us enough breadcrumbs earlier.
I wanted the Night King to win, but since that didn’t happen...
I would have had the NK kill Jon snow immediately after he raised the dead in the Battle for Winterfell, and everything else with that episode stays the same. Everything else in episode 4 stays the same, except it ends with Cersei asking Messandi if she has any last words, and Messandi grabs Cersei and jumps off the ramparts, killing them both.
Episode 5 is Dany taking King’s Landing to rule, and ends with Grey Worm killing Dany.
Episode 6 opens showing how Arya took Greyworm’s face to kill Dany, and Sansa takes the throne in KL and takes Tyrion as king. With all Targarians wiped out, the Lannister-Stark union unites the seven kingdoms under peaceful rule.
I would have had the NK kill Jon snow immediately after he raised the dead in the Battle for Winterfell, and everything else with that episode stays the same. Everything else in episode 4 stays the same, except it ends with Cersei asking Messandi if she has any last words, and Messandi grabs Cersei and jumps off the ramparts, killing them both.
Episode 5 is Dany taking King’s Landing to rule, and ends with Grey Worm killing Dany.
Episode 6 opens showing how Arya took Greyworm’s face to kill Dany, and Sansa takes the throne in KL and takes Tyrion as king. With all Targarians wiped out, the Lannister-Stark union unites the seven kingdoms under peaceful rule.
I don't like parts of it and it really hurt to have so much action and drama in 6 episodes. The payoff for Dany and Jon felt cheap. We should have seen more clues last season and this one that Dany really was Daddy's girl after all.
No, Jon did not want to be king but he did a lot and should have been thanked for getting everyone together to beat the NK and then sticking his knife in that crazy woman.
They should have told Grey Worm that it is our land and your Queen is dead. GTFO or be ready to fight.
I still don't appreciate them saying Bran isn't Bran anymore sooooooooooo many times, but he makes a good king because he can see everything and isn't an *******? They could have let
Podrick be the king or Gendry if not being an ******* was the primary character trait they wanted. Don't get me wrong, I really liked Bran's character... but King? Really?
They also did not give Sansa enough time in these last episodes.
At least they didn't kill Tyion, the people might have burned HBO down if they did that. He and
Brohn were two of my favorites.
I also liked how Brienne filled in the rest of what Jamie did other than kill the Mad King.
On to the prequels, the GOT wowrld have a chance to redeem itselves.
I hope the original showrunners don't 17 up Star Wars like they did this series.
No, Jon did not want to be king but he did a lot and should have been thanked for getting everyone together to beat the NK and then sticking his knife in that crazy woman.
They should have told Grey Worm that it is our land and your Queen is dead. GTFO or be ready to fight.
I still don't appreciate them saying Bran isn't Bran anymore sooooooooooo many times, but he makes a good king because he can see everything and isn't an *******? They could have let
Podrick be the king or Gendry if not being an ******* was the primary character trait they wanted. Don't get me wrong, I really liked Bran's character... but King? Really?
They also did not give Sansa enough time in these last episodes.
At least they didn't kill Tyion, the people might have burned HBO down if they did that. He and
Brohn were two of my favorites.
I also liked how Brienne filled in the rest of what Jamie did other than kill the Mad King.
On to the prequels, the GOT wowrld have a chance to redeem itselves.
I hope the original showrunners don't 17 up Star Wars like they did this series.
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Dead on. At least recognize who he is and let him give it up. Especially since the Unsullied didn't even stay.
Agreed that clues to Dany being crazy werent given, at least they werent obvious.
Watcing Tyrion recap Dany's rise to the throne makes it seem quite obvious in retrospect that she was fast and loose with mass killing, and had just hidden it well under the guise of her version of justice.
You guys are too focused on Bran. He didn't "win" Game of Thrones. Tyrion did. And Sansa, to a slightly lesser extent.
I thought it was great ending to a great show. I agree with some of the criticisms that the last season or two seemed a little rushed but I don't have any real issues with how any of the character arcs played out. What minor complaints I have (would have liked to know more about the Night King, etc...) didn't remotely affect my enjoyment of the show.
Everyone, more or less, ended up where they needed to be even if I didn't always predict how they were going to get there.
I thought it was great ending to a great show. I agree with some of the criticisms that the last season or two seemed a little rushed but I don't have any real issues with how any of the character arcs played out. What minor complaints I have (would have liked to know more about the Night King, etc...) didn't remotely affect my enjoyment of the show.
Everyone, more or less, ended up where they needed to be even if I didn't always predict how they were going to get there.
I don’t know if they’ll go in that direction or not, but it does feel like they intentionally left things open ended by having Drogon fly off with her body. After that scene, they could have easily not spoken another word about it, but the fact that Bran talks about trying to find him makes me think that there’s still more to that whole story.
It’s crazy that even after all that death and destruction, there’s still plenty of conflict there to lead right into a continuation of the story
It’s crazy that even after all that death and destruction, there’s still plenty of conflict there to lead right into a continuation of the story
I think maybe that was the point. It is basically retirement but Grey Worm doesn't know that. They pretty much knew that he could then go north with the Free Folk and live his life away from The 6 Kingdoms. The only drawback is if they made him swear his oath again and if he still holds his honor that high. Most people would say screw it but does Jon really stay north of the wall or is he just a man that is basically running a prison for lawbreakers and bastards?
I binged through this starting with season 1 several weeks ago and was able to catch up just in time to see the last episode live. I thought it was great up all the way until the night king killing. If I had waited 2 years for the final season...I would be justifiably disappointed.
Probably the thing that brought me the greatest joy in the last episode (aside from Dany dying) was the Mountain slamming Cersi's Hand against the brick wall like fly. The Hound going full suicide with the Mountain was the only way that could end.
Probably the thing that brought me the greatest joy in the last episode (aside from Dany dying) was the Mountain slamming Cersi's Hand against the brick wall like fly. The Hound going full suicide with the Mountain was the only way that could end.
The problem for me is that I felt nothing. There was really no emotional payoff for the decade we put into this, especially with Dany and Jon’s stories.
In the end, Jon being Aegon Targaryen meant......what? Seemingly meaningless for it to have been such a massive part of the story.
In the end, Jon being Aegon Targaryen meant......what? Seemingly meaningless for it to have been such a massive part of the story.
I have a similar opinion. Execution was definitely not on point this season, but the story played out like it should have for me
The conflict between Dany and Jon was obviously going to come to a head at some point, Jaime’s death was always going to be a tragic one, and I even thought that Varys’s demise was fitting. He was always a master at choosing sides, and he ultimately picked the right one even in the end, but timing unfortunately got him.
As for Jon, as much as I wanted there to be bigger and better things for him, he probably ended up where he should’ve been. He made it abundantly clear that he didn’t want to be king, and as much as Dany deserved what she got, he did assassinate the queen of the 7 kingdoms. Not to mention that pretty much the only armies left in existence all loved her. It really wouldn’t have been logical for much else to have happened
The conflict between Dany and Jon was obviously going to come to a head at some point, Jaime’s death was always going to be a tragic one, and I even thought that Varys’s demise was fitting. He was always a master at choosing sides, and he ultimately picked the right one even in the end, but timing unfortunately got him.
As for Jon, as much as I wanted there to be bigger and better things for him, he probably ended up where he should’ve been. He made it abundantly clear that he didn’t want to be king, and as much as Dany deserved what she got, he did assassinate the queen of the 7 kingdoms. Not to mention that pretty much the only armies left in existence all loved her. It really wouldn’t have been logical for much else to have happened
They aren’t going there to repopulate. They are going there to semi-retire. Grey Worm is just fulfilling his promise to Missande to go to Naath and protect it. I think the ending was as close to a happy ending as we were ever going to get with GoT.
This final season felt rushed and a little forced. No doubt about that. It was still the best TV series I have ever watched and I don’t know that there is a close second at this point. Plenty of meat left on the bone for some good spin offs too. I’d personally like to see a show that focuses on Arya and on Jon Snow’s life north of the wall. Just don’t know if HBO will find the writers to do the spin offs justice. It was a good run. “And we will never see it’s like again.”
If there’s one character that I feel that the show did butcher, it’s Bran. I don’t know if they intentionally made him seem so passive so that they could set the stage for the huge season ending twist or not, but his whole character left a ton to be desired
I think that's the problem with some, or maybe most. They didn't want a peaceful & happy ending, they wanted more conflict, death, and destruction. For me, it seemed the writers were going for a long, sad goodbye. It wasn't awful, but it wasn't the roller coaster of emotions most of the episodes gave us. It wasn't a fullfilling & satisfying payoff. Overall, it was a great show, one of the best.
I think the intention was for it to add another layer to Dany’s paranoia and her eventual heel turn. Rushed writing may have caused that to not be as obvious as it should’ve been, but I don’t think his heritage meant nothing.
I personally did feel the emotional beats in this episode (Tyrion finding his siblings, Drogon’s reaction to what happened to Dany, the Stark farewells to Jon, Brienne writing Jaime’s accomplishments, Jon reuniting with Ghost, etc) but apparently a lot of people did not feel much. Viewing experience varies by person. I wish the last two seasons had been longer and that’s a little frustrating. But within the context of a shortened season, I thought it was a really good finale.