Gov Haley wants to merge The W w/MSU.....thoughts
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Leave the nursing program and culinary arts programs in Columbus. Hell, we can even call it the Reneau School of Nursing.
It would be a discredit to the alumni of the MUW to totally close the campus. And they do have something to offer MSU, we're not doing them a favor. We don't have a nursing school. I believe we're partnered with USM in Meridian for nursing.
It would be a discredit to the alumni of the MUW to totally close the campus. And they do have something to offer MSU, we're not doing them a favor. We don't have a nursing school. I believe we're partnered with USM in Meridian for nursing.
I think the W has some decent programs and the nursing program is one we could definitely use!! Merge it with State and leave it open....at least to some degree.
I do not want to shut down their campus on Columbus- keep nursing, speech pathology, and etc. there as well as some of the education stuff since it is a traditionally female dominated field. But basically make them into a satellite campus sort of like Meridian.
behind the current proposal. You take certain programs -nursing for example, and locate those programs at the W. Some of the programs where the W duplicates a current MSU program: You shut those down/move them to the Starkville campus.
Over time phase out replication in programs and personnel and drop any non-essential or unviable majors. Find a place to put faculty from those areas so they don't lose their jobs, but make them be productive.
Definitely keep nursing. Having a Nursing School would be a HUGE benefit to MSU. It is a huge draw at Auburn and at AUM, and my friends in that field tell me it is almost recession proof. I know a guy who drives to Atlanta on Thursday afternoons, works all weekend, comes home Sunday night and makes more money than he could make working 8-5 at the local hospital, and the ATL hospital puts him in a hotel for the weekend. Ditch the associates degree though and only offer the BSN. Definitely find a way to keep unique programs like Culinary Arts and Music Therapy, even if it means those students have to drive to Columbus for some of their classes.
One of the challenges in this might be the physical campus. The W has a ton of buildings on the National Register of Historic Places, which makes tearing them down difficult.
There are MANY challenges associated with this, but as an MSU grad if we can merge the two and gain things like Nursing, the Welty name, their education department, and culinary arts, I think we HAVE to figure out a way to make it work.
Definitely keep nursing. Having a Nursing School would be a HUGE benefit to MSU. It is a huge draw at Auburn and at AUM, and my friends in that field tell me it is almost recession proof. I know a guy who drives to Atlanta on Thursday afternoons, works all weekend, comes home Sunday night and makes more money than he could make working 8-5 at the local hospital, and the ATL hospital puts him in a hotel for the weekend. Ditch the associates degree though and only offer the BSN. Definitely find a way to keep unique programs like Culinary Arts and Music Therapy, even if it means those students have to drive to Columbus for some of their classes.
One of the challenges in this might be the physical campus. The W has a ton of buildings on the National Register of Historic Places, which makes tearing them down difficult.
There are MANY challenges associated with this, but as an MSU grad if we can merge the two and gain things like Nursing, the Welty name, their education department, and culinary arts, I think we HAVE to figure out a way to make it work.
I know it really doesn't matter but it would be nice if we could say we have over 20,000 students.
...to many "sacred cows" would be gored.
The move makes sense, but the politics is really bad for this to ever happen.
The move makes sense, but the politics is really bad for this to ever happen.
and Southern Literary Festival (every few years). Those are some major literary Southern literary festivals.
need an urban based commuter University in our state. JSU would neatly fit that bill, if we could get rid of the "Historically Black Institution" monicker.
That's not so easily done. First, it is a source of pride with the University and its alumni, and understandably so. Their institution was providing education to African Americans when other schools refused. Second, how exactly do you go about doing that? The merger with UM probably accomplishes that. But, I'm sure all the people chanting whatever at Ole Miss would recoil in horror. But, I think that JSU needs to be one of the 4 surviving institutions in the state. So, I don't know how you accomplish what I would like -- perhaps it can't be done.
That's not so easily done. First, it is a source of pride with the University and its alumni, and understandably so. Their institution was providing education to African Americans when other schools refused. Second, how exactly do you go about doing that? The merger with UM probably accomplishes that. But, I'm sure all the people chanting whatever at Ole Miss would recoil in horror. But, I think that JSU needs to be one of the 4 surviving institutions in the state. So, I don't know how you accomplish what I would like -- perhaps it can't be done.
The W has abosolutely not political capital. They are subject to being funded by a legislature in which it has very little influence. That's a problem for them. Now, the current budget crisis is proof positive that our legislators, regardless of party affliliation, love to avoid a tough decision.
But, if they just flat out refused to fund the istitution unless it went along with the merger, the deal would be done. And that decision will carry with it very little political ramification.
But, if they just flat out refused to fund the istitution unless it went along with the merger, the deal would be done. And that decision will carry with it very little political ramification.
The infighting was over MUWs identity. The president wanted the name change, others did not. The president wanted to partner with EMCC, and the Alumane group did not. The president wanted control over the alumnae, so she created the alumni association. Basically, it was the alumni against the president.
However, neither group want to lose their independence as a university. They're pushing this "private school" persona, then let it be just that, a private school.
It's ridiculous that we have 8 public universities in this state, all fighting for cash.
However, neither group want to lose their independence as a university. They're pushing this "private school" persona, then let it be just that, a private school.
It's ridiculous that we have 8 public universities in this state, all fighting for cash.
This stands a very good chance of happening. The budget situation is going to force many tough political decisions, but in some cases, there will be no other option. As for the W, it is either merge with MSU, or basically begin closing it all together. I think this will be a slow process, seeing the support staffs merge first, then on to academic departments......
The other state universities, not so much. The W, Delta State, Valley and Alcorn lean heavily on state funding, and that well is drying up. The issue with Alcorn is not only alumni, but it is land grant, and I dont know how that would affect it, but I could see it merging in with JSU and MSU, and valley and delta state merging together, and even possibly under the UM or MSU name....
taking over a historically black college.
Never, ever, ever will this happen and I hope I don't need to explain why.
Never, ever, ever will this happen and I hope I don't need to explain why.
Certain things are being put in place as we speak/type that will make it happen starting with who will be their next president.
not too long ago. They want to merge the W > MSU , and MVSU > Delta State .
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My wife graduated from the nursing program at the W, and she always says that she hopes the W will merge with State. I think she would favor keeping the nursing program on the W campus along with some other programs. I think, most of all, she wants to be able to live up to the M-State Alumni stickers I put on both our cars (I know she's not really an alumnus, but I give her the benefit of the doubt b/c she's a Starkville girl and went State for her 1st 2 years...hope that doesn't make her a walk-on fan).
Why wouldn't you roll MVSU and DSU into Ole Miss Hell it would only add 7,000 students? Keep JSU autonomous. Roll Alcorn into USM adding 3,000 or so. Roll the W into State adding 2500. Jackson State can be a commuter school for all of Mississippi and still be an HBCU. The H stands for "history".
jmbeck said:
I know of 2 W alumni right off hand that support shutting it down, one of them being my mother. Both say it is so far from what the W is in their memory that there is no love lost. It just never bounced back after the tornado. BTW mom also went on get a Master's at State