Grayson Allen had a bad night
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As someone said...he just needs an ole fashion *** kicking....and I'd say it will happen since he is in a man's league now....and at this point couldn't care less if that happens it not
I wouldn't call him a punk but could see how some think of him that way....I would call him a spoiled baby....time to grow up mr baby or get your *** handed to you.....your choice
I wouldn't call him a punk but could see how some think of him that way....I would call him a spoiled baby....time to grow up mr baby or get your *** handed to you.....your choice
Grayson is never gonna be viewed as a "bad boy" in the NBA. He will never be Ron Artest or Charles Oakley. Ron Artest grew up in Queensbridge NY in the worst projects anyone can imagine. Most NBA "tough guys" have been tough guys their whole lives and it mainly has to do with their upbringing IMO.
Grayson grew up in a gated community in Jacksonville FL. I love him and always will, but he's not gonna intimidate anyone in the NBA.
Us Duke fans know that their is much more to him than what the public perceives. He is tough, he dives on the floor, he isn't scared of anyone. But I don't blame the general public for viewing him as an "entitled spoiled brat."
Grayson grew up in a gated community in Jacksonville FL. I love him and always will, but he's not gonna intimidate anyone in the NBA.
Us Duke fans know that their is much more to him than what the public perceives. He is tough, he dives on the floor, he isn't scared of anyone. But I don't blame the general public for viewing him as an "entitled spoiled brat."
It wasn’t a fight between those 2. Rudy went to help a teammate who had tussle with Washington. Pretty sure he never threw a punch. Washington slugged him breaking his jaw and knocking him out. Rudy could have died.
Years later Washington was sent to prison for 6 years for fraud.
Years later Washington was sent to prison for 6 years for fraud.
I try to take everything at face value.
1. Neither of those two plays were worthy of a flagrant.
2. The first one you clearly see him being held and then he shoves him off and there was quite a bit of showmanship to sell it.
3. You get called for one ******** flagrant and then a second, yeah I’d act dumbfounded and pissed off too.
4. Summer league or not players in the summer league are often playing for roster spots. It’s not some meaningless pickup.
5. Anyone here saying he’s got an *** kicking waiting for him, saying he’s a punk, how he needs to stop doing this crap needs to relax. I didn’t hear a peep about him doing anything over the last year plus. This then comes up and you actually watch it and are like, wait what am i missing here, that’s it? You guys saying that telling Grayson to grow up and control his emotions and yet you’re the ones completely blowing this out of proportion.
If Grayson had been doing dirty things all season his rookie year whether in the league or the g league that’s one thing. But to my knowledge he didn’t. So telling me he needs to grow up and mature or get his *** kicked to learn a lesson to me is a bit extreme to say the least. Nothing’s changed, half of the people on this thread chastising him probably didn’t even watch the damn clips. I’m not even blindly supporting him, watch the damn video. And lastly, Graysons best quality is that he plays scrappy, he always has. If he plays dirty, the tripping etc then yeah go all in on him, that is indefensible. This stuff from last night though? Give me a break. SOFT AF.
1. Neither of those two plays were worthy of a flagrant.
2. The first one you clearly see him being held and then he shoves him off and there was quite a bit of showmanship to sell it.
3. You get called for one ******** flagrant and then a second, yeah I’d act dumbfounded and pissed off too.
4. Summer league or not players in the summer league are often playing for roster spots. It’s not some meaningless pickup.
5. Anyone here saying he’s got an *** kicking waiting for him, saying he’s a punk, how he needs to stop doing this crap needs to relax. I didn’t hear a peep about him doing anything over the last year plus. This then comes up and you actually watch it and are like, wait what am i missing here, that’s it? You guys saying that telling Grayson to grow up and control his emotions and yet you’re the ones completely blowing this out of proportion.
If Grayson had been doing dirty things all season his rookie year whether in the league or the g league that’s one thing. But to my knowledge he didn’t. So telling me he needs to grow up and mature or get his *** kicked to learn a lesson to me is a bit extreme to say the least. Nothing’s changed, half of the people on this thread chastising him probably didn’t even watch the damn clips. I’m not even blindly supporting him, watch the damn video. And lastly, Graysons best quality is that he plays scrappy, he always has. If he plays dirty, the tripping etc then yeah go all in on him, that is indefensible. This stuff from last night though? Give me a break. SOFT AF.
I read this site daily and normally respect your opinion about things, but your take on this whole situation is the worst take I have ever seen you have.
He doesn’t need an *** whipping for hitting a guy up high on a foul and pushing a guy who was wrapping him up away.
He doesn’t need an *** whipping for being pissed off or losing his cool.
And I can count MAYBE on one hand how many *** whippings have been dealt out in the NBA. Maybe. And certainly none of them in the last twenty years. Guys jaw, guys shove, they MIGHT throw a flailing punch. That’s it. It’s not hockey.
Maybe folks don’t hang around other fan base forums enough, but that is LITERALLY what UK fans and UNC fans have been calling for for years... for some big bad NBA guy to **** Grayson up in some epic beatdown.
And it’s stupid as ****.
Would love for Grayson to control himself. Said so while he was at Duke. As a guy who was booted from nationals for losing my cool, as a guy who broke a dozen sticks losing my cool, as a guy who spent time with a sports psychologist to work on it, it’s very easy to get all righteous about someone else, especially in the heat of competitive sports and when everything is on camera from a dozen different angles. On the court, Grayson is competitive to an extreme. The guys nickname at Duke was “*******.” He’s not the first one we’ve had. But he is one of ours, and by all accounts a really good kid. Just has a bit of an immature temper.
Duke fans, of all people, should have some understanding.
He doesn’t need an *** whipping for being pissed off or losing his cool.
And I can count MAYBE on one hand how many *** whippings have been dealt out in the NBA. Maybe. And certainly none of them in the last twenty years. Guys jaw, guys shove, they MIGHT throw a flailing punch. That’s it. It’s not hockey.
Maybe folks don’t hang around other fan base forums enough, but that is LITERALLY what UK fans and UNC fans have been calling for for years... for some big bad NBA guy to **** Grayson up in some epic beatdown.
And it’s stupid as ****.
Would love for Grayson to control himself. Said so while he was at Duke. As a guy who was booted from nationals for losing my cool, as a guy who broke a dozen sticks losing my cool, as a guy who spent time with a sports psychologist to work on it, it’s very easy to get all righteous about someone else, especially in the heat of competitive sports and when everything is on camera from a dozen different angles. On the court, Grayson is competitive to an extreme. The guys nickname at Duke was “*******.” He’s not the first one we’ve had. But he is one of ours, and by all accounts a really good kid. Just has a bit of an immature temper.
Duke fans, of all people, should have some understanding.
Sorry but no he not a kid...good grief he is what 24 years old? He is an adult period
The NBA may be soft but Grit and Grind city of Memphis fans have no issues with players being physical or a little dirty. Grayson may get bitched at a little because he’s new and white but he will become a fan favorite.
It's time for Grayson to grow up. I can't keep finding justifications for him. Disappointed to say the least. He might have some anger management issues that he can't take care of himself and needs to see someone who can help. I would hate to see this develope into his personal life if and when he has his own family OFC
Grayson should have been disciplined while at Duke instead of enabled by Coach K...Pampering him as if his thuggery was no big deal did nothing to help his serious anger issues. One of these days some one is going to knock his block off and it well be well deserved. Can’t believe you Dukies are STILL excusing his behavior. “Can we please not start this whole thing over again”.....Really??? Just whom do you think is starting this over again? Certainly not the Celtics or the NBA referees....Duh!
Who the hell dragged your ignorant *** in here lmao
Sky i love you, but this is my whole point about blowing things out of proportion. You’re not alone and i take it I’m in the minority but just watch the footage, any other player would there even be a mention of this? Of course not. And spare me (not you, everyone) the oh he brought it on himself song and dance. Yes, but the only reason it’s even an issue is because it’s Grayson Allen, Caucasian from Duke. Period. His actions last night in that game don’t deserve even a mention let alone two full pages of thread dissecting his mental stability and moral compass. The holier than thou crowd is out in full force. I get it from opposing fans, see white duke star. But from our own? Come on. If he actually did something than yeah, get over him, but he not only didn’t deserve a flagrant let alone two, he hasn’t done **** in this capacity since when? Junior year?
Shut up with the whole Duke enabled him nonsense. Really just shut up! I guess when Demarcus Cousins, and Draymond Green act like idiots, I guess uk and Michigan State enabled them, because if I do remember those two acted like total head cases in college as well.
Really ??? why are you posting on a Duke board? I'm guessing you a female and I really try to be respectful but give us a break. At least for the most part we here at DI admit Grayson has problem he needs to take of. Are you a unc cheater u fan? If so I guess you can't help it. It's your nature. Bless your little heart. OFC
Players do these things every game. But Grayson is Grayson. He is a white dude from Duke, so he's not supposed to play dirty (Like Laettner). Every time he does we put it in slow motion and it looks worse. The trips were bad, we can all agree on that. But the refs really screwed the pooch on this one and caused a Grayson Allen media/twitter hate session. Sucks because we all know he's just a good guy with a bit of a temper on the court.
Edit: I hope Dan Dakich and Ryan Ruocco were spoken to from someone in ESPN. Because that was a classic character assassination they pulled, with him on the court in front of them. It's something you hardly ever see out of color guys, let alone a play-by-play guy. Pretty classless IMO.
Edit: I hope Dan Dakich and Ryan Ruocco were spoken to from someone in ESPN. Because that was a classic character assassination they pulled, with him on the court in front of them. It's something you hardly ever see out of color guys, let alone a play-by-play guy. Pretty classless IMO.
would make sense if he/she was a UNx fan. But the boiler in their name leads me to believe they're a purdue fan, which makes it so odd that they're on a duke board, and THAT is their first post. Like you said, bless their little heart.
You sound like one of his parents...."its not his fault" type discussion....it's on him....time to grow up mr allen
it looked like a good block to me. back in the day this would be nothing
I do get what timo is saying but Grayson has to come to the realization that he needs to control his emotions. He is for sure a target, has a reputation and whether it has to do with him being white and going to Duke just adds to the issue. I'm a Grayson fan and have seen the positive side of him which highly exceeds the negative but I have to admit if he had went to unc cheater u and done this I would be raising a ruckus over here about him. I would just not run over to thr and tell them my opinion like their fans do here. OFC
So you're saying he deserves millions of people and news networks to poke fun at him and make a mockery of his character? I'm saying it's dirty. I wouldn't do it, nor condone it. But it's basketball. That stuff happens all the time.
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All in saying is that it IS his fault...and it's not the first time he has been in this type of altercations....just time for him to grow up
I agree he has to get ahold of his emotions and stop the anger plays. He has no excuse for it. It's dumb and costs the team. But the storm that follows is unnecessary. That's all I'm trying to say.
Man, I just watched the video.....much to do about nothing IMHO.
Sorry but that's gonna be part of it when you are an athlete especially a professional....and one with a past
At the same time though, I feel like no matter how hard Grayson plays defense, he’s always going to be accused of something dirty. He might as well just go on and let his man blow by him.
I can tell when to stop reasoning with someone lol. I understand your point, I just don't think you understand mine. Good day sir.
Well, nobody rolls 100% on this board I guess. I offered up an apology for the word I selected, it was partly out of anger, part disappointment. If you read this site daily, I think you’ll find it inside as to wear my allegiances are.
I think we all like Grayson. I just wish thing like this would stop happening. I have a cousin who despises Grayson so much that if Grayson donated one of his kidneys to him he would still despise him. It's got to the point now that the no matter how much good Grayson does the haters are going to hate but that still doesn't change the fact that Grayson some how learns to keep himself out of these situations. I watched the video and it's not as bad as the Grayson haters see it but Grayson's got to figure it out. I wasn't on the court, did not see all that was happening. Grayson may have been getting grabbed and pushed all night . I dont know. I remember the Steven Santa Ana/Elon U. incident where Grayson made a statement that Santa Ana had been grabbing him all night and it finally got to him. He wasn't trying to make excuses but the Elon player got to him. The reason for that is that Grayson and already tripped two other players and Santa Ana was trying to get Grayson to react and Grayson did .That's what I trying to say is easy has to learn to control that retaliation and if he can't he needs help in learning to do so. OFC
Grayson would be a fan favorite and team leader in the NHL. It’s in his nature to get chippy quick.
Listen, Christian did A LOT of dirty stuff but we still celebrate him. I'm not saying dirty play is good or okay. But go back and watch the plays.... that mean he needs legitimate physical harm down to him? Come on fellas.
No doubt, he could and should do better.
No doubt, he could and should do better.
No, actually, you also said "You sound like one of his parents....'its not his fault' type," implying that anyone who feels otherwise is enabling and coddling and "soft on crime."
There's some serious cognitive dissonance going on, too, if you can't see a thread where there's a pile-on to start, and then a handful of voices saying, "Dial it down a notch" or "Let's note context" and you act like that's the position that needs to be countered.