Great win, but I must not know the rule, back of hand is not down?

howercat

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Someone clear this up, I thought the runner was down if any part of the body touches the ground except soles of feet and finger tips. Thanks for the insight.
 

K_TIME

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I have no idea what the rule states...but my argument would be that never is ruled a player down if he kept running for a TD...so why would we rule it down w/o a fumble when the play went the other way.
 

dcspurlock

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Hand isn't down. Has to be anything above the wrist. If that were the case stumble bums would get marked down where the hand touches.
 
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TBCat

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The announcers were terrible. They argued it both ways during the game. I'm still confused as to what they were trying to say. Bottom line is the hand can touch the ground and not down the ball but if the forearm touches he's down. The forearm clearly didn't touch. As stated above if he kept running and scored a TD they wouldn't have over turned that so why would they over turn a fumble. Lamar was trying to make a bigger play than was needed. All he needed to do was go down and live to kick the FG. He tried too hard at being a hero and fumbled.
 

OldRed

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The announcers were terrible. They argued it both ways during the game. I'm still confused as to what they were trying to say. Bottom line is the hand can touch the ground and not down the ball but if the forearm touches he's down. The forearm clearly didn't touch. As stated above if he kept running and scored a TD they wouldn't have over turned that so why would they over turn a fumble. Lamar was trying to make a bigger play than was needed. All he needed to do was go down and live to kick the FG. He tried too hard at being a hero and fumbled.
Have to agree that the announcers were terrible. The deflection of Garrett Johnson was caused by early contact. Should have been defensive interference but it wasn't even mentioned. Holding on Louisville was never called and the announcers never asked for it to be called against UL but they mentioned it all the time against UK.
 

Gothic1960

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I don't care what the rule is. I thought with 100% certainty they'd overturn it. First time in my life I've seen UK get a break like that one. Whether it was a good call or not we've all seen that go the other way too many times.

Damn right!! I just knew they'd overturn it. After seeing the Cats fumble, bumble and stumble all over themselves plus the constant questionable if not outright screwing on plays against UK for 45 years it's about damn time we catch a break. ..
 

willievic

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The announcers were terrible. They argued it both ways during the game. I'm still confused as to what they were trying to say. Bottom line is the hand can touch the ground and not down the ball but if the forearm touches he's down. The forearm clearly didn't touch. As stated above if he kept running and scored a TD they wouldn't have over turned that so why would they over turn a fumble. Lamar was trying to make a bigger play than was needed. All he needed to do was go down and live to kick the FG. He tried too hard at being a hero and fumbled.

I think these were the two worse announcers I have listened to in my 77 years. They didn't know the rules, couldn't keep up with the game, and were just plain Horse **** announcers.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

rmattox

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I usually like Mike Patrick but it was clear the color guy was an acc homer. This was the first noon game I'd watched on espn this year, since that is the ACC slot it's likely he is from podunk acc school.
 

Hjack

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The announcers were terrible. They argued it both ways during the game. I'm still confused as to what they were trying to say. Bottom line is the hand can touch the ground and not down the ball but if the forearm touches he's down. The forearm clearly didn't touch. As stated above if he kept running and scored a TD they wouldn't have over turned that so why would they over turn a fumble. Lamar was trying to make a bigger play than was needed. All he needed to do was go down and live to kick the FG. He tried too hard at being a hero and fumbled.

Did they mention that he was a Heisman candidate? [banana]
 

Blueaz

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I don't care what the rule is. I thought with 100% certainty they'd overturn it. First time in my life I've seen UK get a break like that one. Whether it was a good call or not we've all seen that go the other way too many times.
This x1000.
I bet on UK for the money line, but I woulda bet a lot more on that call being overturned.
First BIG break I can remember for us in such a huge game