Grizzlies beat OKC 95 to 83 to force game 7.
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Can I say thug. I do not know how Marc keeps an even demeanor. I would have to punch the dirty playing MF.
Especially with dudes like ZBo, Allen and Mayo on your own team. Get real. This has less to do with me being a fan and more of the fact that no body here really knows what a lot of these guys are like off the court. Talking about character issues makes no sense to me when no one (with the exception of ZBo) has really actually been blasted for character issues publicly but yet and still he's you guys' hero. I get double standards in sports some times, but others it doesn't make any sense to me.
He has been a model citizen the 2 years he has been here. And what shady stuff has Allen or Mayo been involved with?
So I take it that you're Randolph's secretary and know about his every action for the past 2 years? Here's the thing about when people start winning. They automatically start to look like saints. You nor I know if Randolph is really as good of a person that he seems to be 2 years later, but I'm personally willing to back him just because he "seems" like he's gotten things together. Truth be told though, we don't know. And the same people that are talking about Perkins as being a thug because of his dirty play on the floor, am I the only that sees it as a physical game in the paint for both teams? Hell, Randolph almost injured Ibaka or did every one here just happen to miss that play at the same time?<div>
</div><div>Also, I know you didn't just ask what shady stuff Mayo was involved in... really? Let me refresh your memory...You would think everybody here would be crusaders against players who have done anything wrong in the NCAA's eyes especially when it comes to receiving money for their services considering the hate towards Cam Newton and Auburn. But I guess as long as said athlete is on your team in the majors, everything is a-ok. I got it..</div><div>
</div><div>And as far as Allen is concerned, that wasn't a shot at his personal character, more of the fact he has punk tendencies on the court. At least from what I can see. Hell of a defensive player though.</div>
</div><div>Also, I know you didn't just ask what shady stuff Mayo was involved in... really? Let me refresh your memory...You would think everybody here would be crusaders against players who have done anything wrong in the NCAA's eyes especially when it comes to receiving money for their services considering the hate towards Cam Newton and Auburn. But I guess as long as said athlete is on your team in the majors, everything is a-ok. I got it..</div><div>
</div><div>And as far as Allen is concerned, that wasn't a shot at his personal character, more of the fact he has punk tendencies on the court. At least from what I can see. Hell of a defensive player though.</div>
....don't you think if Randolph had gotten into any trouble like he did in other places that the media would have been all over it? I do know he does a ton of charity work around here, and has had zero legal trouble since arriving in Memphis. I am pretty sure that stuff can't be covered up.
And Mayo's shady stuff is getting paid while in college? Really? A college basketball player getting money makes him a shady character? I am guessing damn near everyone in the NBA received illegal benefits while in college. That is just college basketball.
And I love how you defend Westbrook's punk *** while talking about Allen's antics on the court
And Mayo's shady stuff is getting paid while in college? Really? A college basketball player getting money makes him a shady character? I am guessing damn near everyone in the NBA received illegal benefits while in college. That is just college basketball.
And I love how you defend Westbrook's punk *** while talking about Allen's antics on the court
I'll explain to you Barney style as to why I brought up all of my points. The Mayo incident, although it was in college, is a shady incident which is what you asked for. I delivered. And although it is a too common practice, you don't know every single player that is receiving any kind of financial benefits while they're in college, and any accusation of any other player with out substantial proof is just that... an accusation. Just because you know it goes on, saying that it happens across the board doesn't make it less shady now does it? Especially when it's supposedly breaking the rules of the NCAA which everyone on this board will quickly point out once Cam Newton comes up. That's a double standard if I've ever seen one. The fact that you're even arguing against this point is showing your bias.<div>
</div><div>As far as what I personally think of Randolph, to be honest the guy seems like a good dude from what I can see of him on tv. But just because he's real active in community service doesn't mean ****. Ron Artest is probably one of the more active members in community service in the NBA and everyone will be quick to point out how crazy he is. Even though Randolph doesn't act like Artest on the court, the point of the matter is just because you don't see it doesn't mean things have changed. As far as how I feel about him though, I really hope he has gotten over that hump, but people who back him up and criticize people who have had no legal issues to speak of is baffling to me.</div><div>
</div><div>And the only reason I bring up Allen and defend Westbrook is because right now I'm specifically choosing to see things through navy and gold glasses just like everyone here is choosing to look through a pair of blue and yellow. Everyone here is saying that Westbrook is punk for... whatever reason... that apparently I don't see nearly as much. Well.. to me the closest player on the Grizzlies would be Allen. Fair enough?</div>
</div><div>As far as what I personally think of Randolph, to be honest the guy seems like a good dude from what I can see of him on tv. But just because he's real active in community service doesn't mean ****. Ron Artest is probably one of the more active members in community service in the NBA and everyone will be quick to point out how crazy he is. Even though Randolph doesn't act like Artest on the court, the point of the matter is just because you don't see it doesn't mean things have changed. As far as how I feel about him though, I really hope he has gotten over that hump, but people who back him up and criticize people who have had no legal issues to speak of is baffling to me.</div><div>
</div><div>And the only reason I bring up Allen and defend Westbrook is because right now I'm specifically choosing to see things through navy and gold glasses just like everyone here is choosing to look through a pair of blue and yellow. Everyone here is saying that Westbrook is punk for... whatever reason... that apparently I don't see nearly as much. Well.. to me the closest player on the Grizzlies would be Allen. Fair enough?</div>
And you are right. The Grizzlies are just a bunch of rambling thugs, while the Thunder are a bunch of choir boys who all probably skipped practice today to go to the local boys club and read books to the children. Forgive me for ever thinking God's team might have a few knuckleheads on it.
And for the record, I like a lot of the Thunder players. I am a Durant fan, dude plays with class. I am just not a big fan of Westbrook or Perkins. Perkins acts like he belongs on the Spurs. The dude has never committed a foul in his life, but when he does he will be sure to put his mean face on and whine about it. And all of the dancing and **** they were all doing on the bench of a blow out looked pretty damn ridiculous. Even your choir boy here Perkins thought so.
And for the record, I like a lot of the Thunder players. I am a Durant fan, dude plays with class. I am just not a big fan of Westbrook or Perkins. Perkins acts like he belongs on the Spurs. The dude has never committed a foul in his life, but when he does he will be sure to put his mean face on and whine about it. And all of the dancing and **** they were all doing on the bench of a blow out looked pretty damn ridiculous. Even your choir boy here Perkins thought so.
So you're going to focus on my final paragraph which was in retaliation to the obvious biased opinions in this very thread, but didn't even entertain the others? Ok...<div>
</div><div>You really don't even know how I view the Grizz because I really like their team and most of their players, but the bias here is ridiculous. Normally I don't say anything because I understand that obvious bias will develop against anyone's opposing team, but I just don't see how people here can really in good conscience berate one person's perceived character issues when they have players on their team with apparent baggage to begin with.</div><div>
</div><div>That's cool that you had an issue with the celebrations as I can understand that. I almost did initially until I thought about it. A lot of those players were our 3rd string and they were going to get their points if they could and as long as both teams are on the floor, you still got to try to stop them from scoring even if you know the game is out of reach. On the opposite end of the spectrum Lionel Hollins said he had no issue with it either and he's your head coach.</div>
</div><div>You really don't even know how I view the Grizz because I really like their team and most of their players, but the bias here is ridiculous. Normally I don't say anything because I understand that obvious bias will develop against anyone's opposing team, but I just don't see how people here can really in good conscience berate one person's perceived character issues when they have players on their team with apparent baggage to begin with.</div><div>
</div><div>That's cool that you had an issue with the celebrations as I can understand that. I almost did initially until I thought about it. A lot of those players were our 3rd string and they were going to get their points if they could and as long as both teams are on the floor, you still got to try to stop them from scoring even if you know the game is out of reach. On the opposite end of the spectrum Lionel Hollins said he had no issue with it either and he's your head coach.</div>
Nobody mentioned anything about off the court until you did. Westbrook acts like a punk ON the court. Trying to act like we know what these guys are like off the court has been proven to be an exercise in futility over and over again.Incognegro said:
The point that I'm making is that other team's players will always look like a punk on the court. There's no specific moments mentioned. It's just a consensus of the opposing teams' fanbase (in my eyes obviously). That's just like me saying that Tony Allen has punk issues and your boy obviously took issue with it. Hell, I even brought up how ZBo tried to throw down Ibaka and almost injured him and that was just one instance of some of his dirty plays, but he clearly doesn't have questionable on the court moments...
I was talking about them dancing like a bunch of clowns at their bench after every score. You would have thought they just won the finals
Well I just look at it as a young team enjoying probably their biggest win in a really close series. To be honest, if the same exact thing was on the opposite end of the spectrum I can't say I would have had an issue if it were the Grizz doing the same thing after I put it into full spectrum since practically the same thing can be said for them. I guess I just look at that particular "issue" differently though.
Which YOUR coach even agrees with how I think on it as he spoke on both the celebrating and the scoring.
If you want a specific moment, pick any bucket he scores, foul he is called for, or foul he didn't get the call on and he makes that lip curling, turd sniffin' face that only the biggest ball hog in the league right now could make. He then follows it up with talking. He literally cannot go 3 consecutive plays without running his mouth at an opposing player or referee.<div>Incognegro said:
</div><div>He and Perkins would make great Spurs with all of the whining they do.
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He can't help it that he looks like a frog. And to be honest, you're a fool if you think that he's the only player on the court that does his fair share of trash talk. Even though I was picking on ZBo, Allen and Mayo earlier, all 3 of them can definitely be seen doing their fair share of trash talk. Hell, Durant has been getting in on the action too.
Westbrook has a temper and a poor attitude and he lets his frustration effect his game too much. Yeah he has those games where he can score 40 but he needs to learn when to look for his teammates when he isn't having a good shooting night. You have the best scorer in the NBA on your team, give him the ball. I can see the frustration in his teammates in every game from him trying to do too much.
in talking trash, and running your mouth the entire game. And I agree with you that it is an opposing fan thing. I realize there are things I cheer Grizzly players for that causes opposing fans to hate them. I'm just pointing out that Westbrook is one of those guys for OKC and why.
The past 3 games, you can't tell me he hasn't been giving the ball. One of the biggest reasons we lost last night was in no part due to him not giving the ball to Durant as he was getting the ball and just missing his shots. Durant has to remember that he's more effective going inside trying to draw fouls which he did not do at all. The fact that he's still learning the point and considering he's actually making progress is not a thing to complain about in my eyes.
I don't see it nearly as much as you claim but that's just me. Not saying he doesn't do it but hey. The only one (in that regard) I won't defend is Perkins especially since him complaining for fouls will some times cost us in transition when he's bitching at the ref and the ball has already moved to the other end of the court.