Guns n Roses - Dr. Pepper

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I for one can't wait to hear this new album. http://adage.com/article?article_id=131958

Free Dr Pepper for All as Guns N' Roses Album Release Is Set
Is Brand's Promise to Deliver Gratis Soda a Publicity Coup or Massively Expensive PR Stunt?
By Natalie Zmuda and Michael Bush

Published: October 22, 2008

NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- G N' R delivered the rock, now Dr Pepper has to deliver the pop.
Axl Rose took 17 years to deliver the new Guns N' Roses album.
Photo Credit: WireImage

Earlier this year, Dr Pepper promised to give one can of soda to every American if Guns N' Roses delivered its latest album, "Chinese Democracy." It seemed a safe bet to observers at the time. The album had been so long in the making (17 years) that it was more a punch line than a realistic expectation.

Now, it's official. The album will be released at the end of November, meaning Dr Pepper's promise is coming due. The event is already garnering plenty of buzz for both the band and the soda.

Then again, from a business point of view, the deal raises as many questions as it answers. The album is being released exclusively at Best Buy on Nov. 23. Dr Pepper just happens to have 23 magical flavors. Further, PR shop Ketchum also represents both Best Buy and Dr Pepper.

Numerous calls to Dr Pepper were unreturned. Ketchum directed calls to its client.

Time to honor pledge
"We never thought this day would come," Tony Jacobs, VP-marketing at Dr Pepper, said in a statement. "But now that it's here all we can say is: The Dr Pepper's on us."

Dr Pepper plans to give out the soda through a couponing strategy. Consumers will need to register at the brand's website for a coupon that can then be redeemed at any retailer that sells Dr Pepper. The coupons, which are limited to one per person, will only be available for 24 hours beginning after midnight on Nov. 23. A back-of-the-napkin equation would put 300 million cans of soda (which wholesales in the range of 55 cents a pop) at about $165 million.

But most figure the soda company hasn't taken a huge risk as it's unlikely the overwhelming majority of Americans will be logging on during the 24-hour time window. "To be honest, when I saw it, I thought it was a safe bet," said Patrick West, VP-experiential marketing at Zoom Media & Marketing, explaining that he didn't think the album would actually come out. "I expect they will get a healthy return, in terms of total numbers redeemed. This stunt has a lot of legs behind it. But it's really risky, if only because of the cost of your goods. Obviously that's a bet Dr Pepper is willing to make."

Couponing and sampling experts said that the company could eventually shell out several million dollars in free soda, given the press the challenge has attracted. But Dr Pepper has fewer opportunities for incremental purchases. Similar stunts, such as Taco Bell's free-taco offer tied to the World Series, most often lead to additional purchases, such as a high-margin fountain soda, for example. Last year it was estimated that the fast-food chain spent $5.6 million advertising the promotion, while the giveaway itself cost under $1 million and generated priceless publicity. The stunt was successful enough that Taco Bell is repeating it this year.

Will freebies inspire loyalty?
"The publicity is worth a lot, no doubt about it. You have to measure it against the value of the PR," said Bob Goldin, executive-VP at Technomic. "Will it do anything to build loyalty, you've got to wonder. Those things generally don't, in my opinion. Consumers will feel good about the company for the time it takes them to drink the soda."

Wes Brown, a partner at consumer-research consulting firm Iceology, thinks the promotion will lead to some sort of loyalty among consumers, however. "Dr Pepper could ultimately build some loyalty and some brand consideration out of this," he said. "Because consumers will look at this as a brand that went out on a ledge and is sticking to their guns no matter what it ends up costing them [dollar wise]."

Others say that the association with Axl Rose, especially when Dr Pepper is increasingly relying on music to market its brand, could prove invaluable.

"If you play it right, you could end up building even more PR," Mr. Brown said. "You can make fun of it and say, 'We got them to do in six months what has taken them 15 years to do' or that 'All music fans should be thanking us.' And ultimately, as long as Guns N' Roses doesn't get too upset, you could make a little campaign out of it that will continue to keep the brand in the forefront."

After all, chances are slim Dr Pepper would have been able to ink any sort of formal deal with Axl Rose.

"The brand association with Guns N' Roses and Axl Rose might be something that they would have had to pay infinitely more for than they ever could have afforded," said Mr. West.

Band with a long past
Then again, others might point out that Guns N' Roses, which hasn't been heard from since last century, comes with plenty of baggage, including its frontman. Axl Rose, after all, hasn't exactly aged as gracefully as Mick Jagger.

Ultimately, the promotion will work double-time for them, pointed out Dean Crutchfield, a brand consultant. He said that it is a good way for the company to re-engage with an older audience, maintain its core fans and introduce the brand to new consumers. "What I like about this, at the end of the day, is they are riding two horses at one time, and that's what's important and unique here for Dr Pepper," he said. "In branding, they say you're looking for more users, new users or new uses. Clearly they are not going to get new uses, but they are certainly aiming for new users. This is a smart deal that will get them a lot of publicity, depending on the amount of publicity that Guns N' Roses will get. That will be the acid test."
 

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But I can't wait to see how it turns out. I remember the best and worst concert of my life being a GNR at the Birmingham race course. They were late opening the gates and everyone was getting pissed off. People were passing out little hits of this and that and it got even worse after that. Once we got in the infield was a complete mud pit. People were losing their shoes and throwing mud everywhere. Well once Axel finally got on the stage the fans were in that aggressive kinda pissed off mood and so they started throwing stuff and some landed on stage. Well Axel throws a complete hissy fit and walks off for a long time which got people even more crazy and it went downhill from there.
It was so bad that it was a memory I will never forget.
Did anyone else go to that show?
 

MSUCostanza

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at work heard the first song off the new album yesterday and said it was horrible. To make this sports-related, if W. Axl Rose were our QB, we'd be 7-0.
 

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99.9 the FOX promised they were going to play the new song right after the commercial break at about 5:30PM yesterday. I drove home from work listening to commercials which took me about 10 minutes. Then I sat in my driveway for another 5 minutes waiting for the song to come on until I finally gave up.

the new Metallica kicks *** though. It sounds like Master of Puppets through the Black Album era. If you are a disgruntled Metallica fan and gave up on them, give them another chance with Death Magnetic. I promise you won't be disappointed.

Sports related because I think we should be rocking at least one Metallica song over the PA during football games. The intro to Sad But True would be perfect for this season!!
 

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is their best work since And Justice for all (at least that's my opinion). I don't think they will ever top And Justice for all though, I can listen to that CD and Megadeth's greatest hits on replay and never get tired of it.
 

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Best in a very long time. Mixture of And Justice for All/Master of Puppets/Kill-em All/ and the Black Album. Good stuff.
 

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Let me be the first to say that it blow's goat nuts. You know how every old 80s or early 90s rock album had a couple songs that you just kept skipping every time you played it? Well, this is definitely one of them.

On a side note, after hearing the song twice yesterday, I put the yellow Use Your Illusion CD in my truck and I still can't believe just how badass GnR used to be. They are seriously one of the best rock bands of all time.