Gunter Brewer headed to the Bears...(obsessed)
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; ">Gunter Brewer was announced today by Ole Miss head coach Houston Nutt as the latest addition to his staff, assuming the position of associate head coach and serving as passing game coordinator and receivers coach.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "><span>
</span></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "><span>Is he calling plays, just coaching WRs, or both? What exactly is his role outside of WR coach?</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "><span>
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</span></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "><span>Is he calling plays, just coaching WRs, or both? What exactly is his role outside of WR coach?</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "><span>
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we lose a few coaches and the recruits hit the panic button. Ole Miss is steady bringing in new coaches and it doesn't seem to phase them. Hell, their head coach is gone after this year, because you know his *** isn't going to win in Starkville.
I explained this when it started, but I'm sure the thread turned to flames and how I was a liar. I even mentioned that Brewer would be the guy hired, but people here were still buying the outrageous rconspiracy theory that we were hiring UCLA's former WR coach to get Singleton.
I'll try again...
Nobody saw Diaz leaving for TX before it happened. So there was no ground work laid to prepare your recruits. He was all of a sudden a candidate at TX and the next thing you know, he was gone. Same with Hud, he decided to pursue the ULL job and quickly took the job.
Dickerson and Dameron were told in Nov that they wouldn't be returning possibly. Dickerson was one of our main recruiters behind Vaughn. dickerson did us the favor of personally telling his recruits of this possibility. Essentially he did damage control.
Dameron, I'm not sure about. But then again, he wasn't recruiting many big targets. Obviously Floyd Raven was his guy in LA. And obviously Raven was a little blindsided and he did decommit.
Your situation and our situation were different in that we had time to prepare of recruits.
I'll try again...
Nobody saw Diaz leaving for TX before it happened. So there was no ground work laid to prepare your recruits. He was all of a sudden a candidate at TX and the next thing you know, he was gone. Same with Hud, he decided to pursue the ULL job and quickly took the job.
Dickerson and Dameron were told in Nov that they wouldn't be returning possibly. Dickerson was one of our main recruiters behind Vaughn. dickerson did us the favor of personally telling his recruits of this possibility. Essentially he did damage control.
Dameron, I'm not sure about. But then again, he wasn't recruiting many big targets. Obviously Floyd Raven was his guy in LA. And obviously Raven was a little blindsided and he did decommit.
Your situation and our situation were different in that we had time to prepare of recruits.
OM did a better job on damage control with recruits. And they kept it hush-hushinternally, being careful not to draw any attention to it during such a fragile time.<div>
</div><div>The media was not on our sideunfortunately. But it wasn't a OM/MSU bias. It was because our coach leaving was SIGNIFICANT. Diaz had quickly built a name for himself and was going to a major university. Hence the media coverage. </div><div>
</div><div>Luckily for OM, no one gave 2 ***** about their insignificant coaches.</div>
</div><div>The media was not on our sideunfortunately. But it wasn't a OM/MSU bias. It was because our coach leaving was SIGNIFICANT. Diaz had quickly built a name for himself and was going to a major university. Hence the media coverage. </div><div>
</div><div>Luckily for OM, no one gave 2 ***** about their insignificant coaches.</div>
That's pretty much right.aTotal360 said:
At the same time, there was nothing to report when a guy still has a job.
When the media found the job postings last week they ran with it. There was nothing to report until then.By the time they started reporting it, the recruits had known for months.
Diaz leaves and MSU promotes a guy who has never been a DC and hire a DC from the Sun Belt (which was admittedly a pretty good hire). Your WR coach goes to a HC job at ULL and MSU promotes a grad assistant.
OM fires a guy who was out of football for 3 years before we hired him initially (Rader) and replace him with a guy with NFL and college experience (Lee.
OM fires a no-name WR coach (before his hire at OM) and replace him with a guy who has coached Moss, Bryant, and Blackmon.
OM is getting rid of Dameron and are either going to hire a guy with 16 college years experience and 10 years of NFL experience (Donnie Henderson) or a guy with 21 years college experience, DC experience (several top 25 defenses, two of them at ARK under Nutt), and HC experience.
But I'm sure there's someway that MSU fans can justify their hires as superior, right?
OM fires a guy who was out of football for 3 years before we hired him initially (Rader) and replace him with a guy with NFL and college experience (Lee.
OM fires a no-name WR coach (before his hire at OM) and replace him with a guy who has coached Moss, Bryant, and Blackmon.
OM is getting rid of Dameron and are either going to hire a guy with 16 college years experience and 10 years of NFL experience (Donnie Henderson) or a guy with 21 years college experience, DC experience (several top 25 defenses, two of them at ARK under Nutt), and HC experience.
But I'm sure there's someway that MSU fans can justify their hires as superior, right?
your former coaches sucked and your new coaches are outstanding. Our former coaches were outstanding and our new coaches suck (except for the one that is "pretty good"). Got it.
Dickerson wasn't even a WR in college and his previous job was ULM. Dameron was a ****** recruiter and OK secondary coach. Rader was a waste of a hire.
I think the fact that none of those guys will be taking a step up in jobs compared to Diaz's step to Texas and Huds step to HC at ULL show that they were superior assistant coaches compared to the ones we let go.
That GA might be the best WR coach to ever coach the game, but its a questionable hire at best at this point.
I think the fact that none of those guys will be taking a step up in jobs compared to Diaz's step to Texas and Huds step to HC at ULL show that they were superior assistant coaches compared to the ones we let go.
That GA might be the best WR coach to ever coach the game, but its a questionable hire at best at this point.
Nutts fire defensive coaches or is he going to stick it out with Nix, et al?
Does he wait 'til 'after' signing day to keep current staff out recruiting?
It was the defense that sucked eggs last year.
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Does he wait 'til 'after' signing day to keep current staff out recruiting?
It was the defense that sucked eggs last year.
Biscuit
and Vaughn is the best recruiter on the staff, so he isn't going anywhere.
The only upcoming staff change is hiring a new DB/S coach. Dameron and Dickerson (the two main coaches gone) told recruits a while back that they might not be retained, as OMBD stated.
And Nix is staying for next year. His two good defenses (2008 and 2009) as well as high buyout probably saved him this year. I'd imagine he'll be on the hot seat if his defense performs the same next year.
The only upcoming staff change is hiring a new DB/S coach. Dameron and Dickerson (the two main coaches gone) told recruits a while back that they might not be retained, as OMBD stated.
And Nix is staying for next year. His two good defenses (2008 and 2009) as well as high buyout probably saved him this year. I'd imagine he'll be on the hot seat if his defense performs the same next year.
Lion O said:
Years in the NFL doesn't mean much. CROOM had "years in the NFL". Wilson as our DC is a MUCH better hire than Lee as your OC. David Lee hasn't been able to keep a job longer than 3 years. Wilson was a Co-DC for one of the better defenses in the SEC.
And you still have your DCthat produced your worst defense in schoolhistory.
Our new linebackers coach has immediately improved defenses at two different schools. And you still have your DCthat produced your worst defense in schoolhistory.
Your next DB coachonce had quality defenses under Nutt at Arkansas. Sounds familiar--according toDameron's OM bio, Dameron was a leading DB coach under Nutt at Arkansas. And you still have your DC that produced your worst defense in school history.
Ok, you got us on the WR coach. But OUR head coach is an offensive genius and he and our experienced OC can guide our WR coach as needed. And you still have your DC that produced your worst defense in school history.
in most all the ones I did see offense was NOT the problem. You can replace all these guys if you want but didn't UM set (or nearly set) a record for points scored this year in a single season? I personally don't think all the offensive turnover is likely to do anything but hurt especially when there seems to be no cohesive offensive philosophy with these guys. Until you do something about your woeful defense nothing else matters. Just makes no real sense to can coaches that performed well on their side of the ball when apparently all the coaches on the side that performed so poorly are all being retained.
From our end yes we had 2 guys that were offered great opportunities and they took them. One to be a head coach and the other to be the DC for probably the highest profile program in the nation. Our new Co-DC has about the same type resume as Diaz did when we hired him one year ago and 99% of the nation had never heard of him. The only difference is Collins has a much better legacy as a recruiter than Diaz did coming in. And as far as WR coach our receivers performed better in the bowl game under Mirando than they did all year with Hud so he's earned his opportunity and he is much more integrated into our offensive system than if we brought in someone totally new.
From our end yes we had 2 guys that were offered great opportunities and they took them. One to be a head coach and the other to be the DC for probably the highest profile program in the nation. Our new Co-DC has about the same type resume as Diaz did when we hired him one year ago and 99% of the nation had never heard of him. The only difference is Collins has a much better legacy as a recruiter than Diaz did coming in. And as far as WR coach our receivers performed better in the bowl game under Mirando than they did all year with Hud so he's earned his opportunity and he is much more integrated into our offensive system than if we brought in someone totally new.
MedDawg said:
I'd say the bolded part is a little much at this point, though I agree with the part about us still having Nix.
There is little I can do about it, so I'll grin and bear it and hope he figures something out this off-season. If he doesn't, we'll bring in likely an entirely new coaching staff to coach a bunch that will have a solid amount of young talent to build on.
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If OM needed to nix anybody from the staff it was.....well.....Nix. The man has no clue whatsoever about how how to stop spread/option football. It's pathetic. You guys are bringin in all of these new offensive coaches, but offense wasn't the problem last year. In short, I don't really get it.
Nix's previous seasons at Ole Miss, in which he produced two very good defenses (19th and 21st in total defense, as well as 20th and 15th in scoring defense) do not matter. They are insignificant. This year is the only year that matters in regards to evaluating Tyrone Nix. Also, injuries should be disregarded (Lockett, Sawyer, top 3 safeties with knee injuries that should've sidelined them but didn't due to depth issues, Rivers, etc.), as they are insignificant.
In summary, Tyrone Nix can and should only be judged on his performance at Ole Miss this year.
You really believe that?
As for Keith Burns, he has had top 25 defenses everywhere that he has gone as DC, and he brings alot more to the table than Kim Dameron. If you look at both of their bios, they aren't even remotely similar.
And Mullen is an offensive genius? I think that he does a good job with your offense and playing to the strengths, but offensive genius is a little much.
In summary, Tyrone Nix can and should only be judged on his performance at Ole Miss this year.
You really believe that?
As for Keith Burns, he has had top 25 defenses everywhere that he has gone as DC, and he brings alot more to the table than Kim Dameron. If you look at both of their bios, they aren't even remotely similar.
And Mullen is an offensive genius? I think that he does a good job with your offense and playing to the strengths, but offensive genius is a little much.
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