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Ok Guido, here's your week. Your gunslinging QB gets to prove that last year at Duchon was no fluke. From my vantage point your boy threw every ball well. If he has matured even more this year I would imagine he is going to be a handful.

Hearing great things about the LT lineman as you guys have size and speed. I haven't heard much about the RBs but I look forward to catching up on them.

GW comes into this game having started 46 different guys on defense this year. Hetlet has gone deep into his bag of tricks to rebuild a group that was humiliated in Week 1. Four good games against mediocre-to-bad teams isn't the best read of whether he has found the right combination but GW is looking like GW of old.

The biggest question is whether LT's defense is up to stopping GW's O. My guess is LT has not seen this many homerun threats on the field at the same time this year. Speed, size and crazy athleticism makes GW's skill guys a handful but LT's defense seems up to the task.

This game might come down to whether GW o-line can provide enough time for their QB and or running lanes for their backs. GW's OC Sig is crafty in his play calling and tends to use plays that use influence blocking to create lanes, so maybe there is some hope. If LT's front seven can shut down the running game, it might be a long night for the Hitters.
 
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GW comes into this game having started 46 different guys on defense this year.
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That is unreal. Settled in now @capnbillhitters? I'm still having a hard time reading these Hitters.
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It's hard to tell whether he has settled on the right combination but what I do see is a hungrier group on the field. Every guy knows he has to re-earn his position every week which has added the urgency they lacked in Week 1.
 
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Ok Guido, here's your week. Your gunslinging QB gets to prove that last year at Duchon was no fluke. From my vantage point your boy threw every ball well. If he has matured even more this year I would imagine he is going to be a handful.

Hearing great things about the LT lineman as you guys have size and speed. I haven't heard much about the RBs but I look forward to catching up on them.

GW comes into this game having started 46 different guys on defense this year. Hetlet has gone deep into his bag of tricks to rebuild a group that was humiliated in Week 1. Four good games against mediocre-to-bad teams isn't the best read of whether he has found the right combination but GW is looking like GW of old.

The biggest question is whether LT's defense is up to stopping GW's O. My guess is LT has not seen this many homerun threats on the field at the same time this year. Speed, size and crazy athleticism makes GW's skill guys a handful but LT's defense seems up to the task.

This game might come down to whether GW o-line can provide enough time for their QB and or running lanes for their backs. GW's OC Sig is crafty in his play calling and tends to use plays that use influence blocking to create lanes, so maybe there is some hope. If LT's front seven can shut down the running game, it might be a long night for the Hitters.
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It's hard for me to get a gauge on this one. Have only seen GBW in week 1 and havent seen Lyons, and the only LT opponent I am really familiar with is Sandburg.
 
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Does anyone know the last time LT beat at Bennett field? I am pretty sure the last two wins for LT in the series have been at Duchon. I always feel like GWs speed shows more on turf. Their home game semifinal losing streak has shown that muddy grass hasn't been a huge advantage
 
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Just kidding obviously. And not sure why the blank post earlier. It's been a crazy day at work and I had time to quickly peek at the thread earlier but not to respond. Still no time for anything in depth. I'll post something later, in the meantime if you have any video links of the team from this year or anything to get a better feel, I'd appreciate it. I checked out Alec Pierce's highlights on Hudl, but I don't know a lot else. I'd love an analysis of not just your strengths but your weaknesses.
 
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Guido Sarducci said:
Just kidding obviously. And not sure why the blank post earlier. It's been a crazy day at work and I had time to quickly peek at the thread earlier but not to respond. Still no time for anything in depth. I'll post something later, in the meantime if you have any video links of the team from this year or anything to get a better feel, I'd appreciate it. I checked out Alec Pierce's highlights on Hudl, but I don't know a lot else. I'd love an analysis of not just your strengths but your weaknesses.
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Guido- What number is your kid for LT?
 
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Guido Sarducci said:
Just kidding obviously. And not sure why the blank post earlier. It's been a crazy day at work and I had time to quickly peek at the thread earlier but not to respond. Still no time for anything in depth. I'll post something later, in the meantime if you have any video links of the team from this year or anything to get a better feel, I'd appreciate it. I checked out Alec Pierce's highlights on Hudl, but I don't know a lot else. I'd love an analysis of not just your strengths but your weaknesses.
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Sure...I'll get right on that. :p

You could roll through the MS game if you are looking for weaknesses, but pretty sure there has been significant turnover of positions.

As I like to say, you don't get effective growth without agitation. That MS game was enough agitation for a decade.
 
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First of all, I'm not going to talk smack. I have the utmost of respect for the GW program, including this year.

I don't know enough about GW yet to really comment on them or evaluate them, except to say that I've watch Alec Pierce highlights and he's terrific and scares the bejesus out of me. I think our DB's are better than expected but Pierce has a big height advantage that worries me a lot. With that said, we did a great job containing top 10 WR Destin Talbert of Hinsdale South, and kept him out of the end zone (our DB's actually scored more TD's than he did).

My take on LT:

Very well rounded club. Moreso than expected I think. Not all-state at every position, but I also don’t see any glaring weaknesses. Both teams haven’t really been tested. By that I mean LT hasn’t played any ranked teams, but a series of decent enough 8-A teams. And they’ve been very consistent at both ends. Seem to start off a little slower than I like on offense, but have scored between 31-35 PPG every single game, and D averages giving up 11.4 per game. GW got pounded by MW, so not really a “contest”, and their competition since has been no better than LT’s.

Bryant is Bryant at QB. Terrific. Amazing arm strength, has learned to use touch more on certain passes, a little dinged up but fine. You mentioned weapons at WR, but Bryant has a number of weapons he will throw back at you. #20 is now a 3-year starter at WR, very quick, and hard to bring down. An “angry” runner after the reception. #3 is they’re big target but also fast, and #1 and #24 are smaller but very quick slot receivers. I believe you that you’ve got a lot of athletic targets, but so do we.

Outside of Bryant, the linemen (both sides of ball) are the strength of the team. I was a little concerned the first couple of games they weren’t as good as I thought, but they’ve begun to gel really well. Bryant gets the press and some very good WR’s, but LT has no problem playing smashmouth, ball control football on offense and stuffing the run on defense. Hopefully they can in this game as well. A couple of games maybe weren’t as huge of landslide scores as some other top teams, and that’s because LT got decent leads and was content to just pound other teams on both sides of the ball and preserve Bryant . Smart strategy and successful.

The huge question for LT going into the season was the defensive back 7. They replaced about everyone. The juniors have really stepped up. #55 at LB has star in the making, and the pair of junior CB’s (imho) have been way better than expected so far. Certainly Pierce is a huge challenge and I’m nost worried about GW using his height, but that 2 CBs combined have 7 INT’s in 5 games with two LONG pick 6’s and dang near a third. If GW isn’t wary of that LT could make them pay for trying to “pick on them” one too many times.

Finally, it’s a weird combo but LT’s tall speedy WR is their kicker, and he’s been terrific this year. Strong, accurate leg. If it’s close, that could be a factor.

Should be a close hard fought game. Not sure which way it goes. So I’ll just stick with 117-2 :)

PS: If you are going hit me up. I'd be happy to meet for a hot dog at half or a brew after. I'm all about getting the W's, but not nearly as much as a cold one before, during or after a ballgame.
 
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MS4EVER said:
Guido- What number is your kid for LT?
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I'm relatively new to this board and post less often than many.

What is protocol here?

I know a few people sort of know, but I'm a little worried I'm being baited and/or the consequences. The last thing I want is a flurry of negative posts about my 17 year old kid. I've already seen it once from jwgp.

Maybe?..... If you're nice about it?..... :)
 
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Guido Sarducci said:
I'm relatively new to this board and post less often than many.

What is protocol here?

I know a few people sort of know, but I'm a little worried I'm being baited and/or the consequences. The last thing I want is a flurry of negative posts about my 17 year old kid. I've already seen it once from jwgp.

Maybe?..... If you're nice about it?..... :)
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I can promise you I would never post anything negative about your boy. Unless of course he single handedly beats MS! Lol. No worries though if you feel uncomfortable with it. I get it.
 
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I can promise you I would never post anything negative about your boy. Unless of course he single handedly beats MS! Lol. No worries though if you feel uncomfortable with it. I get it.
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Yeah I'll pass but others know so not a big secret. And not saying he's anything great, first year starter and so many great players at this level. Just avoiding any self-promotion etc; but I really love HS football and Friday Night Lights, and love talking about it. (Don't even get me started on CFB and the Hawkeyes!.... I'm still heartbroken).

I get so screwed up on all the abbreviations here, but I assume MS4EVER is Maine South? If so any keys for us to light up 60+ points on GW?
 
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My 2 cents of LT:

I've watched LT a few times this year, and they are a very good football team. QB Bryant is the real deal, a couple of RB's that are explosive, a bunch of receivers that can fly down the field, an O line that is big and strong, a really good D line, and some pretty fast LBs. To top all that off, they have one heck of a kicker who is a 3 point threat in the red zone. All in all, more than a handful for GW.

Looking back on LTs actual game performance, I wonder if they have been under performing a bit through their first 5 games. In the Sandburg game, LT won by only 11 points, but as it was game 1, they get a pass for not winning by 40 (as others have done this year). The York game was a head scratcher for me, where a 25 point margin was almost an 18 point margin. Same kind of outcome at PW, with only a 15 point margin (and yes, PW is a little better this year but not that much better). LT kept Lyden out of the end zone and won by 31, and this may have been their best performance of the season, so far.

One thing that is clear about LT, is that they have been in control of all 5 games they've played this season. At no time was there ever any signs, in the games I watched, that LT did not feel in control. Their offensive pace, at times, seems deliberate. The defense has not been tested in any meaningful way this season (that is, outside a few drives, they have been in control at all times this season). My guess is, in the upcoming GW game, that they will greatly pick up their offensive pace, and GW's secondary will be severely tested. LT's defense will pick up it's intensity, too, and I expect the GW QB sill have people hanging off him all night. LT has probably been using about 1/2 their playbook so far this season, and I would expect the see the whole playbook on display this Friday night.

GW has fixed it's defensive problems from game 1, and their offense will soon start to hit its stride. GW was tested in game 1, and failed. They are looking for a chance to redeem themselves. LT has not really been tested this season, but they are about to be tested in a big way. This should be a great game.
 
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This could come down to a guessing game that swings wildly on big plays. If GW safety tries to jump a skinny slant it could mean quick TDs or INTs that shake Bryant. He didn't shake last year but did as a Soph when pressured.

Good news for GW is the weather. Had it stayed hot, the many two-way guys would have been more easily gassed. After four weeks of hard, hot practices, they will be ready to stay on the field all night in the cool crisp air.

I do think we can beat the 111 point spread.
 
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capnbillhitters said:
This could come down to a guessing game that swings wildly on big plays. If GW safety tries to jump a skinny slant it could mean quick TDs or INTs that shake Bryant. He didn't shake last year but did as a Soph when pressured.

Good news for GW is the weather. Had it stayed hot, the many two-way guys would have been more easily gassed. After four weeks of hard, hot practices, they will be ready to stay on the field all night in the cool crisp air.

I do think we can beat the 111 point spread.
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Not a smidgen of smugness here...just sayin'.
 
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chuck998 said:
My 2 cents of LT:

I've watched LT a few times this year, and they are a very good football team. QB Bryant is the real deal, a couple of RB's that are explosive, a bunch of receivers that can fly down the field, an O line that is big and strong, a really good D line, and some pretty fast LBs. To top all that off, they have one heck of a kicker who is a 3 point threat in the red zone. All in all, more than a handful for GW.

Looking back on LTs actual game performance, I wonder if they have been under performing a bit through their first 5 games. In the Sandburg game, LT won by only 11 points, but as it was game 1, they get a pass for not winning by 40 (as others have done this year). The York game was a head scratcher for me, where a 25 point margin was almost an 18 point margin. Same kind of outcome at PW, with only a 15 point margin (and yes, PW is a little better this year but not that much better). LT kept Lyden out of the end zone and won by 31, and this may have been their best performance of the season, so far.

One thing that is clear about LT, is that they have been in control of all 5 games they've played this season. At no time was there ever any signs, in the games I watched, that LT did not feel in control. Their offensive pace, at times, seems deliberate. The defense has not been tested in any meaningful way this season (that is, outside a few drives, they have been in control at all times this season). My guess is, in the upcoming GW game, that they will greatly pick up their offensive pace, and GW's secondary will be severely tested. LT's defense will pick up it's intensity, too, and I expect the GW QB sill have people hanging off him all night. LT has probably been using about 1/2 their playbook so far this season, and I would expect the see the whole playbook on display this Friday night.

GW has fixed it's defensive problems from game 1, and their offense will soon start to hit its stride. GW was tested in game 1, and failed. They are looking for a chance to redeem themselves. LT has not really been tested this season, but they are about to be tested in a big way. This should be a great game.
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You complimented every single LT unit except the DB's . You're killing me Chuck. :):):)

Just kidding and this is an excellent post. You enunciated this better for me than I did in two separate threads. I said in this one I was very impressed, but in some ways just weren't where I'd thought they'd be. I meant as a compliment. And I also mentioned how they've been getting leads and then just confidently trying to keep Ben safe and pound their OL and RBs away knowing both lines will dominate. But they haven't just destroyed inferior teams like other scores in the state.

But I also brought this up in another of Cap's threads sort of implying that GW and HC would get better and be even more of a challenge by the year's end.... from the games I've seen my impression is that LT is certainly good but hasn't just fully gelled yet, and when they do they will be at another level.

Just my impression, I could be way off.
 
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Guido Sarducci said:
You complimented every single LT unit except the DB's . You're killing me Chuck. :):):)

Just kidding and this is an excellent post. You enunciated this better for me than I did in two separate threads. I said in this one I was very impressed, but in some ways just weren't where I'd thought they'd be. I meant as a compliment. And I also mentioned how they've been getting leads and then just confidently trying to keep Ben safe and pound their OL and RBs away knowing both lines will dominate. But they haven't just destroyed inferior teams like other scores in the state.

But I also brought this up in another of Cap's threads sort of implying that GW and HC would get better and be even more of a challenge by the year's end.... from the games I've seen my impression is that LT is certainly good but hasn't just fully gelled yet, and when they do they will be at another level.

Just my impression, I could be way off.
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Now I remember who your boy is! Good luck against Pierce. He is a handful.
 
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Guido Sarducci said:
But I also brought this up in another of Cap's threads sort of implying that GW and HC would get better and be even more of a challenge by the year's end.... from the games I've seen my impression is that LT is certainly good but hasn't just fully gelled yet, and when they do they will be at another level.

Just my impression, I could be way off.
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When I say LT is not fully formed you jump all up my *** accusing me of having intra-conference bias.

Now you say they haven't fully gelled? After suggesting LT would smoke GW by 113 points?

Am I to infer that GW is so outmanned that an ungelled LT is still better than GW by 16 TDs?

Or is it LT will finally jell Friday night into a scoring machine?
 
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Guido Sarducci said:
You complimented every single LT unit except the DB's . You're killing me Chuck. :):):)

Just kidding and this is an excellent post. You enunciated this better for me than I did in two separate threads. I said in this one I was very impressed, but in some ways just weren't where I'd thought they'd be. I meant as a compliment. And I also mentioned how they've been getting leads and then just confidently trying to keep Ben safe and pound their OL and RBs away knowing both lines will dominate. But they haven't just destroyed inferior teams like other scores in the state.

But I also brought this up in another of Cap's threads sort of implying that GW and HC would get better and be even more of a challenge by the year's end.... from the games I've seen my impression is that LT is certainly good but hasn't just fully gelled yet, and when they do they will be at another level.

Just my impression, I could be way off.
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I didn't mention LT's secondary because they will not have to play their secondary on defense this weekend to beat GW. I assumed the 113 victory margin was an ungelled LT offense, playing without a defensive secondary. If they gell and play all 11 on defense, then we've entered a completely different dimension of play here, and I weep for GW.
 
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This is one of the most difficult games to figure out for my confidence pool tomorrow. I know LT won last year pretty handily and they have the QB and the line back. GW of course that week 1 game. Either way , this will be my 1 or 2 game in terms on confidence.
 
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capnbillhitters said:
LT has the hot hand and that is a hornet's nest over there on a Friday night in LaGrange. GW will do well to stay within 15 TDs
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I don't want to be too picky, but just so you make it to the game, LT plays at the south campus in Western Springs not LaGrange. If you get bored travel about a mile north to Nazareth for the Naz/JCA game.
 
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They looked solid. QB is shifty in the pocket and throws a nice ball. The big DL'man looks like a problem and someone had a pick 6.

That said I also can see how blowouts don't happen. But you don't have to clock teams, just have more points after 4. Haven't seen GBW since week 1 so we'll see.
 
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When I say LT is not fully formed you jump all up my *** accusing me of having intra-conference bias.

Now you say they haven't fully gelled? After suggesting LT would smoke GW by 113 points?

Am I to infer that GW is so outmanned that an ungelled LT is still better than GW by 16 TDs?

Or is it LT will finally jell Friday night into a scoring machine?
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Yes.

:):):)
 
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