GW vs Honaker thoughts

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GW is coming off of a beating from Galax and then a week of rest and preparation. And from the kids I've spoke to they are looking to make a statement. Honaker is coming in off a hard fought loss to Grundy. Every one I've talked to from Honaker or anyone who has seen them says they are extremely young. But they are extremely well coached with a kicker who can BOOM the ball. A few kids with some speed but from all the film I've watched they don't have much size. Again this week our QB Deacon Beamer will be about the same size as there line. We won't have Gavin Gray he broke his arm against Marion but Charlie Caudill will be back finally. That will help to sure up our run D and will get a ton of pressure on the QB. Knock on wood but it looks like 99% of the team is back to full health. And personally I think it's a good thing that Galax smacked us around. GW always plays it's best after a loss it's waking up a sleeping giant. This is no disrespect to Honaker I have always had good experiences when meeting TIGERS FANS. So please don't take it the way this might sound. But this season with Honaker being down this is David vs a very pissed off Goliath. I've said it all season long GW will have way to much size, speed and depth. Yes Galax shut that down quickly GW was so much bigger and a good bit faster. But Galax used technique to embarrass us. I don't think Honaker can do that there youth coupled with sloppy play at times spells disaster. With all of that said you know I gotta go with MY MAROONS
GW-56 Honaker-6
 
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GW is coming off of a beating from Galax and then a week of rest and preparation. And from the kids I've spoke to they are looking to make a statement. Honaker is coming in off a hard fought loss to Grundy. Every one I've talked to from Honaker or anyone who has seen them says they are extremely young. But they are extremely well coached with a kicker who can BOOM the ball. A few kids with some speed but from all the film I've watched they don't have much size. Again this week our QB Deacon Beamer will be about the same size as there line. We won't have Gavin Gray he broke his arm against Marion but Charlie Caudill will be back finally. That will help to sure up our run D and will get a ton of pressure on the QB. Knock on wood but it looks like 99% of the team is back to full health. And personally I think it's a good thing that Galax smacked us around. GW always plays it's best after a loss it's waking up a sleeping giant. This is no disrespect to Honaker I have always had good experiences when meeting TIGERS FANS. So please don't take it the way this might sound. But this season with Honaker being down this is David vs a very pissed off Goliath. I've said it all season long GW will have way to much size, speed and depth. Yes Galax shut that down quickly GW was so much bigger and a good bit faster. But Galax used technique to embarrass us. I don't think Honaker can do that there youth coupled with sloppy play at times spells disaster. With all of that said you know I gotta go with MY MAROONS
GW-56 Honaker-6
Calm down before you get yourself in another embarrassing situation.
 
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I think my thoughts are in line with most even a lot of Honaker fans. If GW gets beat again I won't be the one embarrassed I'm not playing. But I'd would be extremely surprised to see then get beat before the semi's. Yeah that's a long way off but as I've said before last year everyone wrote us off after the Radford beating. Look what happened after we not only made it to the semifinals but beat Radford on the way. From the way things should shake out if Galax finishes 10-0 or 9-1 they will get #1 and if GW is 9-1 we will get #1 or #2 seed. That would mean a our only chance to play again would be in Salem. Now before anyone gets their panties bunched up. I'm not saying that is what will happen but don't be surprised if Galax and GW are #1 and #2 come playoff time.
 

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Blaster, thats assuming some things isn't it? Will GW be able to out point Hurley down the stretch because both may win out. I am not familiar with the teams you play so I don't pretend to know what kind of rider points those teams generally carry. Just curious from a few hours aways, lol.
 
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Not saying we are salem bound just saying if Galax is 10-0 or 9-1 they will be #1. If GW wins out which we should we will at worst be #2. If that all happens and yes it is assuming a few things will happen. Then the only way we could meet again would be Salem. Now if GW drops a game to PH or RR cause those 2 should be the only teams with even a remote chance to compete. Or if Galax drops a game to Giles or Graham and possibly both. Then the #1 and #2 will change but if I had to put money on it I'd say those 2 are #1 and #2.
 

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I think my thoughts are in line with most even a lot of Honaker fans. If GW gets beat again I won't be the one embarrassed I'm not playing. But I'd would be extremely surprised to see then get beat before the semi's. Yeah that's a long way off but as I've said before last year everyone wrote us off after the Radford beating. Look what happened after we not only made it to the semifinals but beat Radford on the way. From the way things should shake out if Galax finishes 10-0 or 9-1 they will get #1 and if GW is 9-1 we will get #1 or #2 seed. That would mean a our only chance to play again would be in Salem. Now before anyone gets their panties bunched up. I'm not saying that is what will happen but don't be surprised if Galax and GW are #1 and #2 come playoff time.
That was last year
 
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Trust me GW is better than last year in every way. You have 90% of. The same kids with an extra year under them. And what we did replace is bigger, faster, stronger and just better. Galax played a basically perfect game GW messed up all night. Not taking away from The Tide they best our *** but we helped alot. If GW plays to their potential they can best anyone. And would be 95% of 1A teams by 5 or more TDs. With the exceptions being Essex, RH, Galax other than those 3 I don't see many other teams keeping up. But that's the beauty of football win your games and you will play the best at some point. The season is still young and nothing is set in stone. But November is quickly approaching and the cream will rise to the top. Everything else will sputter and die.
 
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And to really push my point of 1 loss means nothing. Galax had 4 last year before the playoffs. And I told anyone with ears they would be the hardest out by far and look what happened. My self and no other true GW fan are even a little bit worried going forward. We haven't had a losing season in 20 years so we know what good football looks like. And that monster in MAROON up on 1 MAROON WAY is good football. Anyone who comes in underestimating them will be beaten badly.
 

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And to really push my point of 1 loss means nothing. Galax had 4 last year before the playoffs. And I told anyone with ears they would be the hardest out by far and look what happened. My self and no other true GW fan are even a little bit worried going forward. We haven't had a losing season in 20 years so we know what good football looks like. And that monster in MAROON up on 1 MAROON WAY is good football. Anyone who comes in underestimating them will be beaten badly.
This is not last year, I would like to be like Chilwar and have something nice to say, but I am not, you are absolutely full of Crap.
 
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That's fine you are entitled to your opinion as am I. And as I've said many times I'm not talking about last year I'm talking about the team on the hill at GW. They are better THIS YEAR right now 2016. And I'm fine with you or anyone else bad mouthing me or GW that's cool go for it. But you see I can take comfort in the fact that my team is a top dog year in and year out have been for a long time now. You however can't your team is little sister 99% of the time and that's no different this year. They will fail badly against teams like GW, Galax, RH, Essex. None of those teams are Castlewood, Holston, Grundy, phelps ky, ect ect ect. And btw I'm not blaming Hurley or the kids for a garbage schedule it happens. But enjoy that 10-0 record against a bunch of cupcakes it'll come in very handy in Nov when the real teams show up. Or I should say when you have to show up at other teams houses because you didn't have enough points to be #1 or #2. Trust me Hurley has never seen fans or an atmosphere like the one at GW. And I hope and pray that it ends up us coming to the Cliff or you coming to GW. You will not leave that game happy. And before you try and use the argument of oh we hung in there with Galax last season. Don't do that to yourself this isn't last season. And you may believe I don't like you or the Rebbles you're wrong. I have no problem with you or them or your passion I greatly respect it. But don't come at me talking crap when you have absolutely no reason to be barking at the pit bulls when you're a Chihuahua.
 
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FACTS!
Hurley 1999-2015 74-86 record
Only 5 playoff appearances
8 winning seasons and 9 losing seasons
And ZERO State Title's
99 1-6
00 3-4
01 2-8
02 1-6
03 1-3
04 4-6
05 8-3
06 1-9
07 3-7
08 5-4
09 7-3
10 7-4
11 6-5
12 6-5
13 4-6
14 6-4
15 9-2


#19 according to VHSL
Sos 10.9
 
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FACTS!
GW 1999-2015 159-49 record
14 playoff appearances
17 winning seasons and ZERO losing
And 2 State Title's
99 8-4
00 9-2
01 6-4
02 13-1 State Championship Team
03 9-3
04 9-1 1 district loss and no playoffs real competition
05 10-2
06 6-4
07 11-2 Region C Champion State Semi's
08 6-5
09 7-4
10 8-4
11 12-1
12 14-1 State Championship Team
13 6-5
14 9-4
15 12-2 State Semi's

#4 according to VHSL
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Come back with some FACTS and maybe your argument will be valid. And contrary to what you probably believe I have nothing but respect for Hurley. If they win it all congrats even if they run flat over GW. I personally know what a State Title can do for a community. And the kids more than deserve a chance to compete for one. But as you yourself and many other on this site have said including myself. You can't claim to be anything until you prove that you deserve that claim. Meaning Galax was ranked behind GW up until the point they smacked us in the mouth. So please don't claim to be in the same league as teams who have constantly proven to be elite level teams every year.

Is this year's Rebbles among the top yes. Do they deserve to be in the conversation definitely and anyone who says other wise is wrong. Is this the best Rebbles team ever yes can they win it all yes. But if they have to travel to RH, GW, Galax again, Essex, Sussex, PH they might not like what they get. And they might leave with a 100 point victory over them all. But none of us will know until these teams play each other.
 
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You just keep referring to the past, and you can't show me where I have bad mouthed any team. You are the one that is good at that.
 
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Ok once and for all I am talking about the current season 2016. Hurley is basically the same team with a few additional players. Yes they have 1 more year under them so yes they are better than last season. GW is basically the same team as last year with a few additional players and some new transfers. But we have had that same year to get more experienced so they are better. Hurley is not GW so your improved team is still not as good as ours. Ok now let's look at PH they brought back basically everybody. 2 good WR 1 AMAZING RB a good QB the whole line. And on D 8 returning starters which by my count that makes the another Hurley. But no one really thinks that PH is a title contender. But none of us know for sure it might be Hurley vs PH in Salem. I for one would love to see that. But that has about as much chance to happen as you and I both winning a state title this year. Just because you have a good team by your standards that does not mean it's good by anyone else's. Again not downing The Rebbles they can't help that the teams they play are down. But they have never proven anything they have never taken that next step. And just as it's not Hurleys fault it's not GW, RH, Essexs fault that we have 400+ kids and you have 220. Galax has 273 I think. Look at schools like Clintwood they had small teams and won with them at a high level. Haysi did the same so many undermanned teams win with close to nothing. But you are saying Hurley has as many legitimate weapons as GW or Essex or RH or Galax ect ect and they dont. Look at NW last year that QB was massive with a cannon but when he played real competition he got smashed. Hurley will not see a single team in that 10-0 run that is worth talking about this year. So history tells us when you play no competition all year when the real competition comes knocking you're in trouble.
 
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But since you say I'm all about the past. How else do people make judgments? Oh that's right based off of passed teams, returning players and current perception of that team. Ok now your passed teams have been abysmal. You have alot of returning players who couldnt get the job done last year. And your current teams perception yeah they are going to go 10-0 but against nobody. Win something worth talking about and the perceptions might change.
 
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And I'm not saying you bad mouth. I was simply saying if you want to go for it wont hurt me or GW any. And I dont bad mouth I speak the truth. But you do love your snarky little remarks. And that's fine but saying stuff like.

September 16 2016
After seeing the RR and Marion score I would think GW is highly overrated.

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Bland will probably win more talent and better coached. "Sarcasm"

Nov 7 2015
Unless they put 5 officials on their bus they won't beat Hurley

Nov 3 2015
#1 Brady Justice
#2 Austin Shortridge
#3 Anyone
#4 Anyone
#5 Anyone
How is that not a slight against kids like Charles Harris, Dakota Humphrey, Rashad Wells ect ect?
 
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And I'm not saying you bad mouth. I was simply saying if you want to go for it wont hurt me or GW any. And I dont bad mouth I speak the truth. But you do love your snarky little remarks. And that's fine but saying stuff like.

September 16 2016
After seeing the RR and Marion score I would think GW is highly overrated.

Nov 17 2015
Bland will probably win more talent and better coached. "Sarcasm"

Nov 7 2015
Unless they put 5 officials on their bus they won't beat Hurley

Nov 3 2015
#1 Brady Justice
#2 Austin Shortridge
#3 Anyone
#4 Anyone
#5 Anyone
How is that not a slight against kids like Charles Harris, Dakota Humphrey, Rashad Wells ect ect?
I think you deserve an award for taking the time to look all that up, and you do know what sarcasm is.
 
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I do and it took a while lol. But John man I really do have so much respect for your passion. We share that we both are die hard fans. And I wish the Rebbles the best going forward and maybe if the stars align a Hurley GW matchup might happen. Really man respect to you and The Rebbles
 

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I honestly think pm is a better team. But can't put them up there till Galax loses. You cannot take the title away from a team until they lose
 

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When you say Pm are you talking about Parry McCluer? If so I thank we are a great team maybe not #2 yet, we still need to work on our o-line but the back field is starting to hit on all cylinders now, all 3 backs over 100 yards and 2 touchdowns against Fort Chiswell last week. We still have some work to do though.
 
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No doubt PM is a good team with not much buzz around em which isn't right. But idk if they are on the level of Galax just yet. That's no disrespect to PM I respect them a ton.
 

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Ok once and for all I am talking about the current season 2016. Hurley is basically the same team with a few additional players. Yes they have 1 more year under them so yes they are better than last season. GW is basically the same team as last year with a few additional players and some new transfers. But we have had that same year to get more experienced so they are better. Hurley is not GW so your improved team is still not as good as ours. Ok now let's look at PH they brought back basically everybody. 2 good WR 1 AMAZING RB a good QB the whole line. And on D 8 returning starters which by my count that makes the another Hurley. But no one really thinks that PH is a title contender. But none of us know for sure it might be Hurley vs PH in Salem. I for one would love to see that. But that has about as much chance to happen as you and I both winning a state title this year. Just because you have a good team by your standards that does not mean it's good by anyone else's. Again not downing The Rebbles they can't help that the teams they play are down. But they have never proven anything they have never taken that next step. And just as it's not Hurleys fault it's not GW, Galax, RH, Essexs fault that we have 400+ kids and you have 220. Galax has less than 400 I think. Look at schools like Clintwood they had small teams and won with them at a high level. Haysi did the same so many undermanned teams win with close to nothing. But you are saying Hurley has as many legitimate weapons as GW or Essex or RH or Galax ect ect and they dont. Look at NW last year that QB was massive with a cannon but when he played real competition he got smashed. Hurley will not see a single team in that 10-0 run that is worth talking about this year. So history tells us when you play no competition all year when the real competition comes knocking you're in trouble.
You need to calm down, you are going to have a heart Attack
 

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None taken, I agree with you. Hey this weeks game against Auburn ( Jermey Nelsons old school ) should be fun to watch.
 
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You need to calm down, you are going to have a heart Attack
Haha I'm hood john thanks for the concern.

I do and it took a while lol. But John man I really do have so much respect for your passion. We share that we both are die hard fans. And I wish the Rebbles the best going forward and maybe if the stars align a Hurley GW matchup might happen. Really man respect to you and The Rebbles

Didn't know if you saw this reply I do mean that.
 

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I have watched pm and they have several studs that stand out. Much like all the other teams pm could lose a back and still be fine if Galax loses people's then I think it hurts them a lot more then a rb loss to pm. Also the number 50 at linebacker is a beast very smart and talented young man
 

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Haven't seen much of hurley but what I've seen looks good. Galax is a good team but having to still play Giles and graham will be tough I would say 1-1 at best maybe 0-2 against those teams buy hey they have Dixon. Also George Wythe to me is suspect looks good at times and bad at times. Only thing helping them is there schedule. Put them in Galax schedule I would say 6 and 4 at best
 

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Sports talk89 number 50 ( wheeler) he is a stud . We have a few studs but I think the o-line needs some more work. We have some district games coming up James River, Covington they are always tuff on us, that will tell me a lot more about the team.
 

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James river after seeing Radford beat James river pm shouldn't have any problems not heard on covington. Love watching them run the t offense.
 
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Now I do gotta say GW is one of the top teams and the season will show that. And I really do think GW would be better than 6-4 against that same schedule.
 

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Blaster, its time for me to tug the chain a little. How do you describe the miraculous last 30 seconds of the game against Radford that set you up to host Riverheads for the state semi's? That game was over until that young man broke an arm tackle and made a side step to get to the left side and in the endzone from like 35-40 yds out. Or how did a much smaller Gladiator team run at will against those very large lineman you had last year? Thing is anything can happen, these are teenagers that have much more on their mind than the things we perceive. As someone else suggested, be a fan and support the team but let these young men define who they are as a team. Your boisterous talk is condescending to your competitors and brings undue attention to a team that has yet to write their story. Take it as a grain of salt but not reacting sometimes says more than being loud and obnoxious. Still a GW fan from afar.
 
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The Radford game was 28-28 with 32 secs left. And no doubt it was a miracle but that's what high school ball is about lol. And RH did the same thing to us that Galax just did. They used almost perfect technique to do basically what they wanted to do. And like Galax they have an amazing coach who saw our flaws and played perfect for them. And yes anything can happen Hurley might come to GW and hang 80 on us in a Q. But it's not very likely. People often get offend by what I say but I honestly only speak facts. And my opinion yeah sometimes it comes off as me eine an ***. But I respect ever single young man who dedicates themselves to this game. And as you are a GW fan from a far I'm a RH fan from the SW lol.
 

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I give gw credit bc they did win the game last year vs Radford. But if the back from Radford was healthy then it's game over for gw. Radford by 2tds
 

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Gotta say the Radford kids were quick as heck. Big return by the Owens kid for GW kept it close I think to start the second half and then magic in the end. I didn't like the play calling for either a few times because it actually could have gotten blown open with just a touch of imagination. Both went away from what was working instead of running action off of it. Also both teams were very athletic across the board. I am not used to seeing the ball being passed so many times, lol. Hell we could use a hockey puck but I absolutely love the style we run. It's why I enjoyed the beating we took from Giles a few years ago. It was amazing to see the single wing run that effectively. Good luck to all the teams this week and hopefully the weather cooperates.