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TheShowKiller

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Can't get over how well Lee is playing. So much confidence. Catches everything. Calling for lobs. Rebounding with authority. Love it.
I've always been higher on Lee than most, think UCLPower was in that boat with me. He plays with high IQ and energy almost always. I love his little volleyball style block, it usually keeps the ball in play rather than tossing it out of bounds.

I'm curious as to his NBA potential. I mean, in this small ball era he can probably play some 5, and he can guard just about anyone on a switch. Too bad he hasn't developed a little pick and pop J, that would really help his value.
 
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SWFLwildcat06

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Lee always had energy just a fun guy to watch. Not sure he will ever really develop a jumper, likely not but thankfully he finally got rid of his dick fingers for good. Dude had it bad last yr.

That Skal guy has a sweet J
 

joeyrupption

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Except I can't think of many teenage girls watching a UK game on the last Saturday before school starts back. I love UK basketball, but I can't imagine it really holding the interest for that demographic. Maybe it's targeted at the teenage boys - "Hey, they have pretty girls there. That's it, I'm picking UK!"
They only use one commercial for all spots and it's probably made to works on girls (the weaker gender) because they're more likely to have chips on their shoulder and think they're being singled out when they're not.
 
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Feel more comfortable with Lee at this point vs WCS based on you know what you're getting every night and his energy level is always on. Much better motor.
 

K-GAR

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I need to watch ESPN more, just discovered Cari Champion, :fire:

 

fatguy87

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How is Louisville 10 spots ahead of Kentucky in the Sagarin Ratings? Do losses count more than wins?

Because losses and wins are irrelevant. Margin of victory is the most important factor in Sagarin's predictor rating. In fact, Sagarin's predictor will see Louisville losing by 2 in Rupp as evidence that Louisiville is better than Kentucky since there is a home court advantage adjustment.

Louisville has played a weak schedule, but they blow their opponents out on a consistent basis. A quick glance at their schedule doesn't unveil any poor performances. By comparison, Kentucky has had some ho-hum performances against bad teams. Wright State, Albany, Illinois St. were all games where they unperformed against over-matched teams. Throw the UCLA and Ohio State games into that mix, and Kentucky has a sizable list of poorly played games.
 
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KingOfBBN

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Except I can't think of many teenage girls watching a UK game on the last Saturday before school starts back. I love UK basketball, but I can't imagine it really holding the interest for that demographic. Maybe it's targeted at the teenage boys - "Hey, they have pretty girls there. That's it, I'm picking UK!"

It is weird though. I recently researched the effect of sports and enrollment.This used to be called "The Flutie Effect" because of Boston College's growth after Flutie's year.

There is merit to this argument when looking at enrollment numbers from pre-success and post-success at athletic programs. When Georgetown University had an unprecedented string of success from 1983-1986, its enrollment grew 45 percent. After the perfect season and Fiesta Bowl victory by Boise State football in 2006, enrollment skyrocketed by 138 percent.

Northern Iowa’s success in the 2010 NCAA basketball tournament showed a massive increase in donations by boosters. According to one study, every team that made the 2009 NCAA basketball tournament saw an increase of applications and enrollment by at least one percent.

Miami football, Gonzaga basketball, Northern Iowa, George Mason also had big boosts too.
 
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Get Buckets

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It is weird though. I recently researched the effect of sports and enrollment.This used to be called "The Flutie Effect" because of Boston College's growth after Flutie's year.

There is merit to this argument when looking at enrollment numbers from pre-success and post-success at athletic programs. When Georgetown University had an unprecedented string of success from 1983-1986, its enrollment grew 45 percent. After the perfect season and Fiesta Bowl victory by Boise State football in 2006, enrollment skyrocketed by 138 percent.

Northern Iowa’s success in the 2010 NCAA basketball tournament showed a massive increase in donations by boosters. According to one study, every team that made the 2009 NCAA basketball tournament saw an increase of applications and enrollment by at least one percent.

Miami football, Gonzaga basketball, Northern Iowa, George Mason also had big boosts too.

What about UK?
 

LadyCat92

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I don't doubt that sports has an impact on enrollment. I went to Murray State. I first heard of Murray due to it's basketball program. For schools like Murray, Northern Iowa, Wichita State, etc., they get recognition and exposure they haven't had before, so people are curious and will explore them, which ups the enrollment. Also, for boosters, everyone wants to be associated with a winner, so when the program is winning, the money should roll in.

I'm just saying the commercial is odd to me as while I know we all love UK basketball, I would say that 16-18 year old girls are the ones least likely to watch the game on tv, so I'm not sure why they would make a commercial appealing to them. If they had put a guy in that role, then I'd more likely buy it. But then again, UK's campaigns have always perplexed me. Most other universities focus on their academic accomplishments. UK doesn't seem to highlight them nearly as much.
 

KingOfBBN

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What about UK?

That will be a hard one to find because we've been a basketball power forever. I would bet that there has been some increase since Cal though. I know outside interest has increased. But will definitely research this one now.

It's more evident in schools who didn't have the previous type of success.
 

KingOfBBN

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I don't doubt that sports has an impact on enrollment. I went to Murray State. I first heard of Murray due to it's basketball program. For schools like Murray, Northern Iowa, Wichita State, etc., they get recognition and exposure they haven't had before, so people are curious and will explore them, which ups the enrollment. Also, for boosters, everyone wants to be associated with a winner, so when the program is winning, the money should roll in.

I'm just saying the commercial is odd to me as while I know we all love UK basketball, I would say that 16-18 year old girls are the ones least likely to watch the game on tv, so I'm not sure why they would make a commercial appealing to them. If they had put a guy in that role, then I'd more likely buy it. But then again, UK's campaigns have always perplexed me. Most other universities focus on their academic accomplishments. UK doesn't seem to highlight them nearly as much.

I've interviewed a few females on this topic for an article this year. There were a couple who said that athletics played a factor in where they applied to school because of the social interaction and outings especially for schools who care about certain sports. It might be shallow but I think a lot of people want that traditional college experience.
 

KingOfBBN

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This article doesn't show the effect of basketball success for UK's enrollment necessarily but it's pretty informative on how much UK's enrollment has increased, how much student debt and tuition have all risen as well.

http://www.kentucky.com/opinion/editorials/article42609060.html

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Lexington's pulse always quickens as students return in August, especially now with enrollment at the University of Kentucky expected to top 30,000 for the second year in a row.

Numbers won't be final for a few weeks, but UK's freshmen are expected to make up the largest class ever (5,250).

Their average ACT is as high or higher than any before (an expected 25.5). More of them than ever will come from outside Kentucky (37 percent).

And they're more likely to leave UK with not just a diploma and some Wildcat garb but also substantial debt.

About 41 percent of UK graduates in 2013 had outstanding student loans. Their average debt was $25,102, according to the Institute for College Access & Success.

The national numbers were higher. Sixty-nine percent who graduated from public and nonprofit colleges in 2013 had student loan debt, with a per borrower average of $28,400.

The White House reports that Kentucky has 604,000 borrowers with an outstanding balance of $14.4 billion on subsidized student loans, for an average balance of $23,915.

Financing college was simpler for the GIs who won World War II and their baby- boomer offspring. Public university tuition was so cheap that undergrads could pay for it with a full-time summer job and part-time work during school.

UK's tuition has risen 85 percent over the last 10 years. In-state freshmen will pay tuition and fees of $12,029 for two semester; non-residents, roughly double that."
 

Phil McKracken

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It's more evident in schools who didn't have the previous type of success.

Not always...University of Alabama enrollment before Saban in 2006 was just under 24,000. This year it is 37,100. Also about 50% of students are out of state. Read an article a couple of years ago that said the estimated financial benefit of Saban to the university was in the $600-$700 million range. That was several years ago. A bargain for the $8 million per they pay him.
 

KingOfBBN

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Not always...University of Alabama enrollment before Saban in 2006 was just under 24,000. This year it is 37,100. Also about 50% of students are out of state. Read an article a couple of years ago that said the estimated financial benefit of Saban to the university was in the $600-$700 million range. That was about 2 years ago. A bargain for the $8 million per they pay him.

That's pretty wild. Alabama is a unique case too because they're one of the few who actually have an impressive surplus with their athletics department. In 2010, only 22 schools actually made any money.

I think Alabama and Ohio State are like the belle of the ball.
 

LadyCat92

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A look at UK for a little over the past decade.

2003-2004: 26,260; 27-5
2004-2005: 26,545; 28-6
2005-2006: 26,439; 22-13
2006-2007: 27,209; 22-12
2007-2008: 26,648; 18-13
2008-2009: 26,913; 22-14
2009-2010: 27,171; 35-3
2010-2011: 28,037; 29-9*
2011-2012: 28,094; 38-2*
2012-2013: 28,928; 21-12
2013-2014: 29,410; 29-11*
2014-2015: 30,062; 38-1*
 

KingOfBBN

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A look at UK for a little over the past decade.

2003-2004: 26,260; 27-5
2004-2005: 26,545; 28-6
2005-2006: 26,439; 22-13
2006-2007: 27,209; 22-12
2007-2008: 26,648; 18-13
2008-2009: 26,913; 22-14
2009-2010: 27,171; 35-3
2010-2011: 28,037; 29-9*
2011-2012: 28,094; 38-2*
2012-2013: 28,928; 21-12
2013-2014: 29,410; 29-11*
2014-2015: 30,062; 38-1*

Not a ton of craziness in that size of enrollment.
 

LadyCat92

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Nope. Kind of the incremental growth I would expect, though when finding the numbers, the out of state enrollment has grown quite a bit which probably is somewhat related. Alabama has a program that is growing in Biomedical Engineering so that is part of it as well. The state of Alabama has become a hotbed for bio-med research and degrees.
 

anthonys735

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-Of course they are, par for the course with those idiots.

-I assume they'll switch bowl season up next year. They really dropped the ball with scheduling this year. Rose Bowl, ggp.

-Anova got full run this weekend. Steaks, meh. I can do pretty well without, filet it's pretty money though. Brisket, for a flat it's really good, will make some small changes next time. Chicken, Shrimp and lobster last night = eek. Delicate stuff like that makes it worth it.

-Final Xmas party on the books, not too bad with the little dude. Can't wait for him to be big enough to enjoy it. Right now it's all tissue paper for him. Gimme the tissue paper.

-Man, how about those guards just getting personal with Ole Miss? Still were a little out of sync at points on O but the got right up in em on D. That's fun to see.

-Willis hit an open shot but he's still out of sorts out there. He's sliding into situational territory. Cal said, "nobody wants Willis to play more than me." Needs to tighten things up a bit. That guy is a game changer if he can be the 7th man.

-Being able to rotate fresh legs on a lead guard all game is a nice luxury. 3 solid defensive guards, Ulis who's really improved. Murray just needs to be more consistent. Moody was shaken, eventually got his but mostly once the game was well out of hand.

-I LOVED Matthews at 4. That works against 75% of the teams we'll face. Maybe even slide Alex over and really ramp up the pace occasionally.

-Shocker take: Kind of liked the nip in the air and gratuitous snow this morning. I'll take a week or two then I'll be dreaming of March/April.
 
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