If you have running backs that can get six yards a carry its amazing how effective your quarterback and the passing game can be because of the run.
Even when Florida was hitting on all cylinders they had great running backs.
Hal Mumme on the radio right now talking about the UK situation
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Even when Florida was hitting on all cylinders they had great running backs.
I'm not campaigning for Mumme's return, but seriously, how could it be any worse than what we've endured since 2010?
"Worse??? How could it get any worse?
Take a look around you, Ellen. We're at the threshold of hell!"
"Worse??? How could it get any worse?
Take a look around you, Ellen. We're at the threshold of hell!"
Interesting and probably very accurate observations by Mummie. The bottom line is a defensive coach like Stoops is never going to buy in 100% to a true Air Raid offense. The Air Raid can score points but also can lead to a tired defense that gives up a lot of points.
Hal Mumme was on the radio with Chris Cross. Which is probably the only good interview in the history of that radio show. Hal Mumme touched upon the situation at UK.
Mumme says that the release of "philosophy differences" is no fluff by the media or Shannon Dawson, he said that there usually is a difference in philosophy when someone is really trying to run the Air Raid. Said that this is the reason why he decided to move down to D3 Belhaven and not take the many OC jobs that he was offered at top Power 5 programs. When asked to describe the Air Raid so that anybody can understand it, Hal Mumme said that its not an offense, its really an attitude on how you will do things. He said in simplest form the idea is to throw it short as many times as possible and when the defense takes that away then you throw it deep, then if you defense takes away both pass options you'll then run the ball. But Hal Mumme emphasized that running the ball is the 3rd option. He said that anytime you have a head coach saying that they want to run it more and be physical, then they aren't interested in running the Air Raid because you change the whole philosophy of the offense. Hal Mumme iterated that this is what Shannon Dawson ran into at UK.
He explained that the Air Raid has to make the defense play in an extreme that they aren't comfortable with. He said that extreme is a quick passing pass offense that could strike from anywhere on the field. He said defenses still aren't used to playing in that extreme. He said the extreme philosophy is why team run a hardcore triple option works. Option 1 is the RB run, Option 2 is the QB run, but the pass is the 3rd option. He explain that those teams do well when they commit to it and not try to half do it.
Mumme said to run that type of offense you can't have a QB competition because its very important that your QB and WRs rep the plays until they see it in there sleep, if they don't then it doesn't work. He said you've got to pick your QB and go with him because he's going to have to develop and that type of offense takes 2 years for a QB to master even with a max amount of reps. He said that you've got to have a QB that is smart, has good pocket presents, makes quick decisions, and can see the field. He said seeing the field is extremely important and the reason why you don't want a dual threat QB because they have a tendency to drop their eyes and find running lanes and not see the passing patterns develop that could create a more explosive play.
They then asked which teams in the nation are really running the Air Raid. Hal Mumme responded by saying that not a lot of people run the Air Raid. He said that the terms has become a buzz term for teams that throw the ball a lot, but its not true that all these teams are running the Air Raid. He said from his experiences the Air Raid doesn't work unless you run the full blown thing, which is why Tony Franklin didn't do well at Auburn, but has everywhere else. He said there are a lot of teams that have taken a play or 2 out of the Air Raid playbook, but that's all they've done, its not really the Air Raid. He said that only teams that are really running the Air Raid is West Virginia, Cal, and Washington State. He said that Mike Leach is running the Air Raid verbatim for how they originally created the offense. He said Dana Holgerson had create some interesting inside zone and outside zone running plays, with some different screens to take advantage of having a weak OLine, but that's all he's added. He said that Tony Franklin added some more horizontal stuff to it, but that's about it.
All in all, without directly saying it, he was saying that Mark Stoops was saying that he wanted the Air Raid, but that he had no intention of running the Air Raid when he talked about being physical and running the ball because you aren't forcing the defense to be uncomfortable and play in the extreme. I guess the QB competitions, and not picking a guy and going with him and giving him all the reps and at a high volume, and having the QB to run are also all violations against the Air Raid System.
Mumme says that the release of "philosophy differences" is no fluff by the media or Shannon Dawson, he said that there usually is a difference in philosophy when someone is really trying to run the Air Raid. Said that this is the reason why he decided to move down to D3 Belhaven and not take the many OC jobs that he was offered at top Power 5 programs. When asked to describe the Air Raid so that anybody can understand it, Hal Mumme said that its not an offense, its really an attitude on how you will do things. He said in simplest form the idea is to throw it short as many times as possible and when the defense takes that away then you throw it deep, then if you defense takes away both pass options you'll then run the ball. But Hal Mumme emphasized that running the ball is the 3rd option. He said that anytime you have a head coach saying that they want to run it more and be physical, then they aren't interested in running the Air Raid because you change the whole philosophy of the offense. Hal Mumme iterated that this is what Shannon Dawson ran into at UK.
He explained that the Air Raid has to make the defense play in an extreme that they aren't comfortable with. He said that extreme is a quick passing pass offense that could strike from anywhere on the field. He said defenses still aren't used to playing in that extreme. He said the extreme philosophy is why team run a hardcore triple option works. Option 1 is the RB run, Option 2 is the QB run, but the pass is the 3rd option. He explain that those teams do well when they commit to it and not try to half do it.
Mumme said to run that type of offense you can't have a QB competition because its very important that your QB and WRs rep the plays until they see it in there sleep, if they don't then it doesn't work. He said you've got to pick your QB and go with him because he's going to have to develop and that type of offense takes 2 years for a QB to master even with a max amount of reps. He said that you've got to have a QB that is smart, has good pocket presents, makes quick decisions, and can see the field. He said seeing the field is extremely important and the reason why you don't want a dual threat QB because they have a tendency to drop their eyes and find running lanes and not see the passing patterns develop that could create a more explosive play.
They then asked which teams in the nation are really running the Air Raid. Hal Mumme responded by saying that not a lot of people run the Air Raid. He said that the terms has become a buzz term for teams that throw the ball a lot, but its not true that all these teams are running the Air Raid. He said from his experiences the Air Raid doesn't work unless you run the full blown thing, which is why Tony Franklin didn't do well at Auburn, but has everywhere else. He said there are a lot of teams that have taken a play or 2 out of the Air Raid playbook, but that's all they've done, its not really the Air Raid. He said that only teams that are really running the Air Raid is West Virginia, Cal, and Washington State. He said that Mike Leach is running the Air Raid verbatim for how they originally created the offense. He said Dana Holgerson had create some interesting inside zone and outside zone running plays, with some different screens to take advantage of having a weak OLine, but that's all he's added. He said that Tony Franklin added some more horizontal stuff to it, but that's about it.
All in all, without directly saying it, he was saying that Mark Stoops was saying that he wanted the Air Raid, but that he had no intention of running the Air Raid when he talked about being physical and running the ball because you aren't forcing the defense to be uncomfortable and play in the extreme. I guess the QB competitions, and not picking a guy and going with him and giving him all the reps and at a high volume, and having the QB to run are also all violations against the Air Raid System.
You need a creative qb who is a leader to make it work. The oc can only take it so far before players have to execute and inspire one another. Woodson was our last best example of this in a qb. Towels spent his entire season watching the sideline between plays rather than knowing what his oc wanted get up there and take advantage of what he sees. I'm glad this guy is gone bc I don't think it was his ideas that were bad rather the way he communicated it to the players.
For the Air Raid advocates, if Mumme came back and all he had to concern himself with was the offense...........who knows what might happen?
Good stuff and agree with what is said in here. One of the things I loved about the Mumme offenses was the quick slants and passes, especially when you have a weapon like Yeast.
Don't think it's the old Oklahoma wishbone. I'm not sure how many people are running it these days. A few I guess. Opponents of OU back in the day couldn't stop it. But my original post on Switzer of course was tongue in cheek.
Yeah i got you but I think what we are running right now is some kind of flag football offense it appears.
I am not campaigning for Mumme's return, the timing isn't right but I will say I had more fun watching his UK teams than any others dating back to Blanton Collier! Also I talked to a former player who played for Mumme, Morris and Brooks, he spoke more highly of Mumme than the other two. Of course that was just one former player opinion so tifwiw!
I wonder if people who think Mumme would be a good choice these days knows his record after his departure from UK is 55-82. They may not know he was 2-8 this past year, his second at Belhaven a Div. III school where his team averaged 19 points a game. People have learned how to defend the Air Raid offense but Kentucky fans just can't come to grip with it and it's creators obsolescence it seems.
Kentucky doesn't win in football so they want to go to the carnival.
Kentucky doesn't win in football so they want to go to the carnival.