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So I wonder how many people are willing to take these same precautions for the common flu? Since we have 30-80 thousand deaths a year from the flu in America, wouldn’t the caring thing to do is just stop living a normal life and stop working? If we do that maybe we can cut flu deaths to just a few thousand. If you say no then you must be selfish and non caring.
You just refuse to get it. This virus spreads much like flu but is over ten times more deadly. Sure , go about your normal ways, keep NCAA. MLB, etc. and multiply the 80000 by 10.1 to 10.5.
 
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LOL. Don Lemming. I learned a long time ago watching Cronkite, Brinkley and others, every network has a spin. I take everything I read, watch, hear with a grain of salt. Nothing is ever as bad as it seems and nothing is ever as good as it seems.


Don Lemming.....Now that's funny
 
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LOL. Don Lemming. I learned a long time ago watching Cronkite, Brinkley and others, every network has a spin. I take everything I read, watch, hear with a grain of salt. Nothing is ever as bad as it seems and nothing is ever as good as it seems.
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Absolutely correct. Back when Uncle Walter Cronkite signed of with "And that's the way it is...." he was as full of crap as today's media loonies.
 
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Absolutely correct. Back when Uncle Walter Cronkite signed of with "And that's the way it is...." he was as full of crap as today's media loonies.

At least he didn't show his bias like the guys today. A lot of the stuff that happens today would get you fired back then.
 
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Vaccine is still months to over a year away unfortunately, but an effective treatment could be just around the corner. An effective treatment will determine whether there is sports next year or not. No treatment, no sports. Treatment, sports.

Nope! I’ve got one ready for every man, woman, and child on Earth!

You’ll find out all about it... soon enough. Bwah HaHa
 
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So I wonder how many people are willing to take these same precautions for the common flu? Since we have 30-80 thousand deaths a year from the flu in America, wouldn’t the caring thing to do is just stop living a normal life and stop working? If we do that maybe we can cut flu deaths to just a few thousand. If you say no then you must be selfish and non caring.

Wow, I thought all the knuckleheads who were pushing this view had finally realized how foolish they sounded.

This is Not. Like. The. Flu. and we will end up having WAY more than "30-80 thousand deaths" from this IF we don't take these precautions and allow it to spread out of control. The only reason we haven't yet is because this is something new that hasn't yet become as pervasive. There is no "flu shot" for this. We don't know how to treat this like we do the flu, it has a far higher mortality rate and is extremely contagious and spreads incredibly easily when people are crowded together in close proximity to each other. If this ever becomes as common as the flu it will utterly blow it away in death count.

So just stop with the "well, why don't we do this for the common flu" nonsense. It's silly misinformed reasoning.
 
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Everyone worried about who goes and who stays....the doctor at all of Trump's press conferences said he thinks this virus will come back for a second wave in the fall. If that happens, we're looking at no season at all next year.

Yeah why don't we never have sports again in America can't risk anyone getting sick. Burn it all down baby no sports no work of any kind. Well unless the government gives you permission. What is this East Germany?

No entertainment, no concerts, no Christmas. The country is over because of a virus that you're not likely to get and certainly it's not likely to kill you. Meaning the odds are overwhelming you'll recover.

Already there's an awakening on this that we can't destroy the economy over this or were never gonna get this country back. Never

left wingers that are hoping for the day of the locust in this country have no idea what they're wishing for. The suffering of an economic collapse would make this virus into an afterthought
 
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Wow, I thought all the knuckleheads who were pushing this view had finally realized how foolish they sounded. Sad to see some of y'all are still out there.

This is Not. Like. The. Flu. and we will end up having WAY more than "30-80 thousand deaths" from this if we don't take these precautions and allow it to spread out of control. The only reason we haven't yet is because this is something new that hasn't yet become as pervasive. There is no "flu shot" for this. We don't know how to treat this like we do the flu, it has a considerably higher mortality rate and appears to be extremely contagious and spreads incredibly easily when people are crowded together in close proximity to each other. If this ever becomes as common as the flu it will utterly blow it away in death count.

So just stop with the silly "well, why don't we do this for the common flu" nonsense. It's moronic misinformed reasoning.

this is an absolute fallacy you've been lied to by the media. They panicked you into thinking we were gonna be like Italy and they have 80,000 less cases and four times the death. We have better medicine and a better private sector that'll make all the difference for us
 
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Wow, I thought all the knuckleheads who were pushing this view had finally realized how foolish they sounded. Sad to see some of y'all are still out there.

This is Not. Like. The. Flu. and we will end up having WAY more than "30-80 thousand deaths" from this if we don't take these precautions and allow it to spread out of control. The only reason we haven't yet is because this is something new that hasn't yet become as pervasive. There is no "flu shot" for this. We don't know how to treat this like we do the flu, it has a considerably higher mortality rate and appears to be extremely contagious and spreads incredibly easily when people are crowded together in close proximity to each other. If this ever becomes as common as the flu it will utterly blow it away in death count.

So just stop with the silly "well, why don't we do this for the common flu" nonsense. It's moronic misinformed reasoning.
You people cannot comprehend a sentence. I want to know if you people are willing to do the same things to lower common flu deaths. No matter what corona is doing.... are you willing to do these same things to stop up to 80,000 flu deaths each year? I just don’t see the panic on many thousands dying from flu or things like swine flu. If we shut down our lives the same way maybe we drop flu deaths to a few thousand. How compassionate are you and how far are you willing to go to save lives?
 

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Yeah why don't we never have sports again in America can't risk anyone getting sick. Burn it all down baby no sports no work of any kind. Well unless the government gives you permission. What is this East Germany?

No entertainment, no concerts, no Christmas. The country is over because of a virus that you're not likely to get and certainly it's not likely to kill you. Meaning the odds are overwhelming you'll recover.

Already there's an awakening on this that we can't destroy the economy over this or were never gonna get this country back. Never

left wingers that are hoping for the day of the locust in this country have no idea what they're wishing for. The suffering of an economic collapse would make this virus into an afterthought

I am not a left winger, and I spent the first few weeks, like most people, comparing this to the flu. When the NBA shut their league down because one player got sick, I knew this wasn't like the flu. This isn't about you or I getting sick. This is about too many people getting sick and overwhelming the hospitals around the country. It's already happening in New York, New Orleans, and other big cities. We have to take it seriously. Today's press conference, still going on, they are expecting 100,000 to 200,000 deaths. If they had done nothing they said it would be 1.5-2.2 MILLION.

Sports needs to be set aside until we get through this.
 
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I am not a left winger, and I spent the first few weeks, like most people, comparing this to the flu. When the NBA shut their league down because one player got sick, I knew this wasn't like the flu. This isn't about you or I getting sick. This is about too many people getting sick and overwhelming the hospitals around the country. It's already happening in New York, New Orleans, and other big cities. We have to take it seriously. Today's press conference, still going on, they are expecting 100,000 to 200,000 deaths. If they had done nothing they said it would be 1.5-2.2 MILLION.

Sports needs to be set aside until we get through this.

I can almost assure you it won't even be close. The media is already moving on to set up another impeachment. If they're moving to the next stage then deaths are dwindling
 

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At least he didn't show his bias like the guys today. A lot of the stuff that happens today would get you fired back then.
There was also a law against showing bias. It was required to show differing points of view and be fair to news stories. That law is now gone and the news is no more.
 
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I am not a left winger, and I spent the first few weeks, like most people, comparing this to the flu. When the NBA shut their league down because one player got sick, I knew this wasn't like the flu. This isn't about you or I getting sick. This is about too many people getting sick and overwhelming the hospitals around the country. It's already happening in New York, New Orleans, and other big cities. We have to take it seriously. Today's press conference, still going on, they are expecting 100,000 to 200,000 deaths. If they had done nothing they said it would be 1.5-2.2 MILLION.

Sports needs to be set aside until we get through this.
Thank you for being a voice of reason. Too many people aren't taking this seriously. My mother in law thought it wasn't a big deal till her friends husband went to the hospital with the virus and never came home. Over 3,000 people are dying from the virus ever day from this world wide and we're still close to the beginning of this.
 
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So I wonder how many people are willing to take these same precautions for the common flu? Since we have 30-80 thousand deaths a year from the flu in America, wouldn’t the caring thing to do is just stop living a normal life and stop working? If we do that maybe we can cut flu deaths to just a few thousand. If you say no then you must be selfish and non caring.
If we treated COVID-19 like we treat the flu (aside from the whole lack of vaccine thing for COVID-19) then we’d be seeing significantly higher death numbers than what is being projected.
 
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nope the media in this country does that for us they are a bad circus. Many more people have had this and recovered including myself. But you don't hear about that ever do you
In your opinion, what does hearing who has recovered help us? This is a legit question for you.
I would think that if it's being reported that said number of people have recovered every day then it could mislead the public how serious this virus is. People aren't taking it seriously enough already thinking it's just a cold or another type of flu due to misinformation being spread.
 
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In your opinion, what does hearing who has recovered help us? This is a legit question for you.
I would think that if it's being reported that said number of people have recovered every day then it could mislead the public how serious this virus is. People aren't taking it seriously enough already thinking it's just a cold or another type of flu due to misinformation being spread.

no it's the other way around people are acting like it's a death sentence when it's a strain of the flu that there's no vaccine for. We continue along these lines I expect there to be more suicides than virus deaths due to people being ruined economically. Everything the media says anymore is what they hope will happen not an actual reflection of what the truth is. You're probably more likely to die from a shark attack in the summer than Chinese virus killing you. That doesn't mean don't be cautious and don't take it seriously. But people are going off the deep end some of them and there's 100 things that are more dangerous in your life on a daily basis. That's my opinion anyway
 
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240Z was my first car at 16 .. I was pretty cool , Dont know what happened ?? :eek::eek::eek:

I never had one but when I was in high school in mid 90’s I loved the look of the 300Z nissan. Man just something about that car was sweet. Had a couple friends who had them and it was def on my list.
 
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no it's the other way around people are acting like it's a death sentence when it's a strain of the flu that there's no vaccine for. We continue along these lines I expect there to be more suicides than virus deaths due to people being ruined economically. Everything the media says anymore is what they hope will happen not an actual reflection of what the truth is

Economists aren't the media, and they have said the US economy would be far worse if we decided to open everything back up and allowed the virus to keep spreading unfettered. Are you saying the President made a mistake the other day when he extended the quarantine measures that were in place?
 
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Economists aren't the media, and they have said the US economy would be far worse if we decided to open everything back up and allowed the virus to keep spreading unfettered. Are you saying the President made a mistake the other day when he extended the quarantine measures that were in place?

I think he's trying to err on the side of going overboard and then it not being as bad as they say. The Virginia governor shutting down his state until June 10 the day after the gop primary is almost criminal in my estimation
 
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no it's the other way around people are acting like it's a death sentence when it's a strain of the flu that there's no vaccine for. We continue along these lines I expect there to be more suicides than virus deaths due to people being ruined economically. Everything the media says anymore is what they hope will happen not an actual reflection of what the truth is. You're probably more likely to die from a shark attack in the summer than Chinese virus killing you. That doesn't mean don't be cautious and don't take it seriously. But people are going off the deep end some of them and there's 100 things that are more dangerous in your life on a daily basis. That's my opinion anyway

It’s not about it’s fatality rate. It’s about how slammed our healthcare system would be taking care of these severe cases.

If our hospitals get overloaded, then we all suffer for it. For example, say our system gets overloaded. Every hospital within a 75 mile radius is on diversion due to COVID. God forbid, you have a heart attack or a stroke. Normally, that would be a serious but potentially treatable issue. If you had no where to be taken within an hour for such a treatable but time sensitive issue your chance of dying just skyrocketed.

THAT’S why we are social distancing. Not to mention to save the most vulnerable amongst us.
 

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It’s not about it’s fatality rate. It’s about how slammed our healthcare system would be taking care of these severe cases.

If our hospitals get overloaded, then we all suffer for it. For example, say our system gets overloaded. Every hospital within a 75 mile radius is on diversion due to COVID. God forbid, you have a heart attack or a stroke. Normally, that would be a serious but potentially treatable issue. If you had no where to be taken within an hour for such a treatable but time sensitive issue your chance of dying just skyrocketed.

THAT’S why we are social distancing. Not to mention to save the most vulnerable amongst us.

Overwhelmed hospitals would also all but guarantee that there will be more deaths for completely unrelated to COVID. Look no further to how bad things are in NYC.
 
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It’s not about it’s fatality rate. It’s about how slammed our healthcare system would be taking care of these severe cases.

If our hospitals get overloaded, then we all suffer for it. For example, say our system gets overloaded. Every hospital within a 75 mile radius is on diversion due to COVID. God forbid, you have a heart attack or a stroke. Normally, that would be a serious but potentially treatable issue. If you had no where to be taken within an hour for such a treatable but time sensitive issue your chance of dying just skyrocketed.

THAT’S why we are social distancing. Not to mention to save the most vulnerable amongst us.

yeah I can understand that to a degree but that's for two-three weeks not months. If these people had their way we wouldn't go back to a normal life until November. Hospitals are not overwhelmed outside of nyc and frankly the world doesn't revolve around nyc. A lot of this they made their own bed on by the people they've elected in that city and state. You wanna keep them in and let the rest of us live our lives I'd like that

I know this is being exploited to push the green new deal and that'll be made abundantly clear in the coming weeks and months. The left has used these alinsky tactics before with other news stories. The rescue bill to the tune of over two trillion dollars loaded with every pet project of the left proved to me what I already suspected
 
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yeah I can understand that to a degree but that's for two-three weeks not months. If these people had their way we wouldn't go back to a normal life until November. Hospitals are not overwhelmed outside of nyc and frankly the world doesn't revolve around nyc. A lot of this they made their own bed on by the people they've elected in that city and state. You wanna keep them in and let the rest of us live our lives I'd like that

I know this is being exploited to push the green new deal and that'll be made abundantly clear in the coming weeks and months. The left has used these alinsky tactics before with other news stories

It would be two or three weeks if we would completely Wuhan style lockdown. Meaning you go NOWHERE but to Walmart, the Doctor/Hospital, or the Pharmacy. That’s it. No factories. Very little work. Etc.


Now obviously that would bankrupt us in a heartbeat. So this is what we have to do.

Also there are stories coming out of China they are already going through Round 2.
This thin isn’t going anywhere. The only thing stopping it will be a treatment or a vaccine. Both are months away.
 

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yeah I can understand that to a degree but that's for two-three weeks not months. If these people had their way we wouldn't go back to a normal life until November. Hospitals are not overwhelmed outside of nyc and frankly the world doesn't revolve around nyc. A lot of this they made their own bed on by the people they've elected in that city and state. You wanna keep them in and let the rest of us live our lives I'd like that

I know this is being exploited to push the green new deal and that'll be made abundantly clear in the coming weeks and months. The left has used these alinsky tactics before with other news stories
Over 700 of our fellow Americans have died today because of this virus and you don't care because of politics? Any right thinking Republican wouldn't want that. Trolls gonna troll. You must be extremely bored to be doing this. Maybe you and your husband can go sew some face masks instead so you can contribute something positive to the world.
 
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yeah I can understand that to a degree but that's for two-three weeks not months. If these people had their way we wouldn't go back to a normal life until November. Hospitals are not overwhelmed outside of nyc and frankly the world doesn't revolve around nyc. A lot of this they made their own bed on by the people they've elected in that city and state. You wanna keep them in and let the rest of us live our lives I'd like that

I know this is being exploited to push the green new deal and that'll be made abundantly clear in the coming weeks and months. The left has used these alinsky tactics before with other news stories. The rescue bill to the tune of over two trillion dollars loaded with every pet project of the left proved to me what I already suspected
Actually there are hospitals right here in Kentucky putting off surgeries for patients who are in a lot of pain, but the procedures are being postponed for least a months. I know two friends of my that were scheduled and now having to wait.
 

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Why don't the hospitals get overwhelmed by the number of common flu hospitalizations every year? Not cases. Hospitalizations. Because as of now we aren't even a drop in the bucket compared to a typical flu season.
 

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Why don't the hospitals get overwhelmed by the number of common flu hospitalizations every year? Not cases. Hospitalizations. Because as of now we aren't even a drop in the bucket compared to a typical flu season.
Because the numbers are happening all at once. The flu numbers are spread over a year. This is why authorities keep saying to stay home so we can prevent flooding the hospital. This what happens to hospitals when there's a mass shooting like in Vegas. They might deal with 50 gun related injuries in a year and they can handle that but if it happens all at once, then it's too much for the system. That has actually happened.

The White House just announced that their projections show that over 100,000 or more Americans will be dying in the next 2-3 weeks.
 

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Absolutely correct. Back when Uncle Walter Cronkite signed of with "And that's the way it is...." he was as full of crap as today's media loonies.
No, No he wasnt. There was a law at the time that basically said intentionally lying to the American people was punishable, by law. There was also the Fairness Doctrine that basically stated that if political opinions were given on news that were conservative then an opposing liberal view had to be aired. That all went away with Reagan. Just look back to the 70s and you will see network news discussions like Point -Counterpoint. Within a few years you had the likes of Limbaugh and a little later Fox News. Since that time true news and, to some extent journalism, has gone sideways.
 

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Because the numbers are happening all at once. The flu numbers are spread over a year. This is why authorities keep saying to stay home so we can prevent flooding the hospital. This what happens to hospitals when there's a mass shooting like in Vegas. They might deal with 50 gun related injuries in a year and they can handle that but if it happens all at once, then it's too much for the system. That has actually happened.

The White House just announced that their projections show that over 100,000 or more Americans will be dying in the next 2-3 weeks.
That number is based off a computer model in a worst case scenario. The baseline comes from New York’s numbers. I’m guessing it’s going to be much lower. We also don’t have data telling us of how many of these deaths were from people in really bad shape and soon to be dead anyway. It could be a person with advanced medical issues in many instances.

This is a serious situation but needs to be taken in context and not panic driven.
 
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yeah I can understand that to a degree but that's for two-three weeks not months. If these people had their way we wouldn't go back to a normal life until November. Hospitals are not overwhelmed outside of nyc and frankly the world doesn't revolve around nyc. A lot of this they made their own bed on by the people they've elected in that city and state. You wanna keep them in and let the rest of us live our lives I'd like that

I know this is being exploited to push the green new deal and that'll be made abundantly clear in the coming weeks and months. The left has used these alinsky tactics before with other news stories. The rescue bill to the tune of over two trillion dollars loaded with every pet project of the left proved to me what I already suspected
Im as right wing as they come. The measures being taken presently have zero to do with politics. Get your head out of your ***.
 

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Well the Chinese black markets already opened their areas where they sell exotic animals and cats, dogs any animals for food or "medicine". So if the Covid don't come back I'm sure something else will.





Yep, the batdog flu is right around the corner there in China.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised. These viral outbreaks frequently follow that pattern ...dissipate in the summer but then come raging back with a second wave in the fall.

That's what happened with the horrid 1918 H1N1 pandemic. By the end of summer people thought it was finally ending, but then it came roaring back and killed more people in October than any prior month.

Let's pray this one doesn't work the same way.
But But we May have a vaccine by that time. Just Just Saying. This isn’t 1918 and every scientist in the world is working on a cure. Whoever comes up with a cure will leave a legacy.
 
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