Hanmu- you better email Pelphrey and remind him
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The guy is firmly on the NIT bubble with an RPI around 130. Just another coach on the roadlittered withshattered, burningband wagons that you have jumped on. If I was a college coach and you supported me then I would probably pay to have you whacked before I got fired.
you value winning the West way more than most people, because you have to. Its the only way to validate his "success"...And ya got to admit, if Pelphrey wins it this year after rebuilding last year, especially over us and our 5 starters returning (which, we actually have 6 starters returning counting Kodi and Phil), its a big blow to you and your "Pelphrey sux theory"
Now you think winning the West is validation of being a good coach? It has not been all that long ago that we won the West over an Arkansas team that had most of their starters returning also, of course Stan Heath (your other idol) was coaching that team.
Dammit. Why do I allow myself to get sucked into your cess pool of ever changing arguments?
Dammit. Why do I allow myself to get sucked into your cess pool of ever changing arguments?
Coach34 said:
You can say Stansbury sucks even if he wins the West but if Pelphrey wins it then I can't say he sucks anymore? Makes about as much sense as most of your arguments......zero.
PS: On a serious note, I do agree that Pelphrey has done a better job than Stansbury so far this year but one year does not a career make. He has alot left to prove and still has a losing record versus Stansbury, suffered one of the worst seasons in SEC history (topped only by Trent Johnson this year), and has not wona West title(yet).
point being:
Hanmu, Brian, Wolf Man Idiot, and others defending Stansbury have long said that winning the SEC West is a big deal. They have also said the Pelphrey sux.
If Pelphrey wins the West, they have to admit being wrong to one or the other. In my post- I said "but you cant say Pelphrey sux if he were to win it" Because if they do, their long-standing position of how the West is good and winning the West is a big deal goes right out of the window.
Hanmu, Brian, Wolf Man Idiot, and others defending Stansbury have long said that winning the SEC West is a big deal. They have also said the Pelphrey sux.
If Pelphrey wins the West, they have to admit being wrong to one or the other. In my post- I said "but you cant say Pelphrey sux if he were to win it" Because if they do, their long-standing position of how the West is good and winning the West is a big deal goes right out of the window.
for always saying the West sux but Pelphrey is a good coach because he won the West.
Like I said, an infinite loop.
Like I said, an infinite loop.
infinite loop is my specialty....however:
I'm not saying he is good for winning the West- I'm saying they cant say he sux if he does. I've said all along on any coach- including Crooms- that it takes 3 years to properly evaluate them to give them a chance to get established in their program. </p>
Trent Johnson for instance, has done agreat job in year 1, and decided to totallystart overin year 2...but he doing a 2 year rebuild due to leaving scholly's on the table last year for this season's recruiting class...I dont agree with that. Because after being awful this year and cleaning house, he is going to be extremely young again next year and playing too many Freshman to have any decent success. I think thats a mistake on his part. But watching his teams play, you can tell they are coached well- just have zero talent outside of Mitchell</p>
I'm not saying he is good for winning the West- I'm saying they cant say he sux if he does. I've said all along on any coach- including Crooms- that it takes 3 years to properly evaluate them to give them a chance to get established in their program. </p>
Trent Johnson for instance, has done agreat job in year 1, and decided to totallystart overin year 2...but he doing a 2 year rebuild due to leaving scholly's on the table last year for this season's recruiting class...I dont agree with that. Because after being awful this year and cleaning house, he is going to be extremely young again next year and playing too many Freshman to have any decent success. I think thats a mistake on his part. But watching his teams play, you can tell they are coached well- just have zero talent outside of Mitchell</p>
I think we could admit to Pelphrey being a little better or making progress if he finished 10-6, won the West, AND made the NCAA's. At that point he might go from sucking to having a decent year, but still being unproven, b/c it's just one year.
But it's too early to say that.
ALSO, as if one West title would equal him to Stansbury, who has won 5 or 6, an overall conference title, 2 SEC tourneys, made the NCAA's 6 of the last 8 years, and has had 3 teams with a 5 seed or better in the NCAA's. All things Pelphrey will not have done and will never do, thus we can't put him anywhere close to the status of Stansbury until he does something similar.
Why does logic not make sense to some people?
But it's too early to say that.
ALSO, as if one West title would equal him to Stansbury, who has won 5 or 6, an overall conference title, 2 SEC tourneys, made the NCAA's 6 of the last 8 years, and has had 3 teams with a 5 seed or better in the NCAA's. All things Pelphrey will not have done and will never do, thus we can't put him anywhere close to the status of Stansbury until he does something similar.
Why does logic not make sense to some people?
Coach34 said:
The same argument you are using against us works against you. Surely you are being intentionally obtuse because no one is that dense.
Furthermore, Trent Johnson is 0-10 in the SEC which in you own words is very weakand you say they are well coached. WTF?
Hanmudog said:
I can have a well-coached group of 10 year olds playing in the SEC West this year in basketball. They will be more than over-matched every time they play, and will never win, but they can still be well-coached. That is what Johnson's team is doing. They are playing 3 walk-ons regularly. They have 1 player and a bunch of guys that play hard. They are well-coached, but no matter who coaches them, that group is not good enough to beat anyone.
Also just want to point out AGAIN that there is a HUGE difference in winning the West once and winning it 5 or 6 times, not to mention the other accomplishments Stansbury has reached.
Another thing, he is at ARKANSAS, lot easier to win there.
Another thing, he is at ARKANSAS, lot easier to win there.
Stansbury didnt win the West until his 5th year in the SEC- if Pelphrey does it in year 3, thats puts him ahead of pace on Stansbury...adding up what a coach has done in 12 years and comparing it to a coach that has been in the league 3 years in kinda dumb- even for you
Challenge for Dipshit34.
*Show me one where I have defended Stans.
*Show me where I have said winning the west is a big deal.
Stans (and the players) have laid a big ol turd this year. However, I would rather win the west than not. You simply can't keep your argument in order. Read the sig below....even in the same thread, you're all over the place. The west sux, yet if Pelphrey wins the west he's done a hell of a job?I really don't believe even you know what the hell you're talking about.
*Show me one where I have defended Stans.
*Show me where I have said winning the west is a big deal.
Stans (and the players) have laid a big ol turd this year. However, I would rather win the west than not. You simply can't keep your argument in order. Read the sig below....even in the same thread, you're all over the place. The west sux, yet if Pelphrey wins the west he's done a hell of a job?I really don't believe even you know what the hell you're talking about.
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</div><div>The worse four teams in the SEC not counting Ole Miss, and he went 1-3. Now he has Vandy, @UT, and OM the last three games.</div><div>
</div><div>I think that is the basketball definition of sh!tting the bed.</div><div>
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