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rillaman

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Wrong. Weather patterns are weather patterns. Is Kansas a dust bowl or not? It isn’t. I’m surprised you know there are only 2 genders, because your “science” isn’t anything confirmed. It looks like you are attempting your very best imitation of Anthony “I am the science” Fauci.

Imitating Fauci by noticing the population has tripled but we have the same or less clean water?
 

AzIllini

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Wrong. Weather patterns are weather patterns. Is Kansas a dust bowl or not? It isn’t. I’m surprised you know there are only 2 genders, because your “science” isn’t anything confirmed. It looks like you are attempting your very best imitation of Anthony “I am the science” Fauci.
I am willing to concede water use is growing too much in the Colorado river basin because the water allocations are based on a nominal water supply and the river is running below that -- and all 7 states are close or above their allocations, so lake Mead is dropping every year. In 2006 the US population, including illegals was 310 million. 20 years later we are up to 350 million and they all drink water.

Some may be yearning for a time when agriculture and ranching had plenty of water. Not going to happen with all this immigration. The birth rate is less than 2, so the entirety of the growth is immigration. If it comes to people or agriculture, the politicians will choose people every time. Maybe we should turn off the immigration spigot.

Finally, the biggest problem with cattle herds is in Texas and Oklahoma, not the Colorado river basin. Lots of factors, incl they use feed to grow the cattle, not just "free" grazing. Trump has fixed some of the regulations but there is no easy fix to change this. It may be that America will need to start importing more of its beef, we already do it with vegetables and flowers.

(I got my wife "fresh" flowers for her birthday at Alberstons recently and they were from South America! Lots of logistics and air freight to get them to market in 3-5 days. But apparently they are lower cost than locally produced flowers.

Edit: I realize that people are moving to the Southwest voluntarily so it isn't just immigration. But an added 40 million in 20 years is a lot of extra people.
 
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tjfleck6

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Remember when you celebrated a pro golf player’s suicide as a vaccine death? Remember when you ignored the report on Vontae Davis to celebrate another vaccine death?

Hilarious for you to call others mentally ill.
Ah, lying is not a problem for you is it Rill?

I "speculated" that the Dallas golfer's "sudden death" was vax related. Then, his mental illness was revealed to the world. Celebrated? No, that word just says you and your followers Icky and Train are ***-hats. Complete and total.

As for Vontae, again, you show yourself to be a complete and total douche which is why your wife will abandon you for a real man. What was the coroner's conclusion a year later about Vontae's COD? That's right, he could NOT determine why a famous football player had died. My speculation is it was the death jab. But, to say it to you like you are three - that is "Speculation". Quincy could not determine a COD or would not say it.
 
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BigWill

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I just suggested you come back and state your opinion of the speech…good or bad. I actually made suggestions for his speech yesterday prior to him announcing he was going to speak. Crystal.
It wasn't "We will fight them on the Beaches.....We will Never Surrender !", but it informed the un-informed that choose main street media for their sources.

I used to listen to Churchill's speeches from WW 2 that were on 33 recordings in the Syracuse LIbrary.
 

BigWill

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We won the war, and are somehow currently winning the war, like nobody has ever seen

We need help to win the war, but also don’t need help to win the war, like nobody has ever seen.

We will destroy the nuclear program that we destroyed last year, like nobody has ever seen.

We are going to free the Iranian people, but also blow them back to the Stone Age, beyond their wildest imaginations, like nobody has ever seen.

Yeah just bad “style points.” lmao

Kiss the midterms good bye. Trump wasted a R majority and will be impeached. The cult is almost dead.
Consistent TDS from the Jogger.
 

BigWill

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It’s going to be real difficult to get back to pre Joey years. We don’t have the necessary water to bring back more cattle. Water shortages are causing ranchers to cut back on the # of cattle, it wasn’t just Joey.

I recommend you guys talk with a rancher, specifically one out west. They won’t blame Joey, they will tell you the harsh truth. Dying community. When I say someone out west, I’m not talking about Alaska.


Cattle herds are being expanded all over the Western Hemisphere.
As countries change back to a market demands economy from a government edicts lack of economy.

NASA satellites have photographed 2 major climate events.
1. Expansion of the Northern AND Southern ice shelfs on the World.
Which disproves the World temps are rising zealots.
2. Expansion of green in the world.
Which disproves the World lack of rain.
 
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BigWill

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I will put a bet on the USA cattle herd not growing back in 2-3 years. It’s not happening. We have a much higher demand for clean, fresh water than we did years ago.

The cattle herd is continuing to shrink, it’s not growing back in a couple years. High beef prices are here to stay, and will likely get worse.
Save your betting money for the down payment of a nice home.
 

BigWill

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I wasn’t addressing anything BigWill said. That isn’t even a stonedhead-worthy deflection you have there. It isn’t just the drought that has brought the herd numbers down to 1951 levels. Obama bin Biden, 12 years, policies shrunk available lands and more. It will come back. Kansas was a dust bowl at some point. Droughts eventually end. It’s not coming back while Trump is POTUS, but it will come back.
I have championed Regenerative ag here for the small farmer with, cattle, chickens, pigs, rabbits, sheep better known as "meat".

Take some time and watch Joel Salatin talk about his farm (Polyacres Farm)and it's history from dirt/dust in the 60's to prime pasture land of 175 + acres and 8 miles of buried gravity fed water pipes connected to 8 separate interconnected ponds fed by moisture (rain, snow)

His BEEF cattle herd is moved to new pasture every day inside electric fencing. The entire herd follows his calls and whistles like puppies.

He's the Author of such riveting books as " How to make $ 25,000 a year selling eggs" or "How to make $ 10,000 per acre raising pigs." or my personal favorite, "How my 8 year old Son grew a meat Rabbit business from a 4 H project." (He started with 3 rabbits and rabbits do what rabbits do.

Research what parts of The Gobi, the Sahara or arid regions of India are doing to re-green desert !
 
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BigWill

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The US population has almost tripled since the dust bowl. Same amount of water, triple the popularion. Fresh water levels are never going to reach what they were in the past. There is less water for evaporation, but record high usage. People have hope it will come back. Science and common sense paint a bleaker picture.
Yet you HAD Children !

The "science" of climate change ! Greta whoever.
 
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BigWill

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Already have one
Get two.

Our camp up in the Adirondacks is on a spring fed lake about 2 X 6 miles with 28 other one family camps.

The water is so clear that it can used for unfiltered drinking water. We use a filter, just in case.

The camp association has it tested semi-yearly.

It was built pre WW 1 for my Grandmother and her spinster Sisters.
 
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BigWill

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Another can you believe this ?

It is reported that Elon just was on some platform announcing that Tesla is introducing Model G for introduction late 2026.

It will retail for approx $ 75,000.

It will have a range of 410 miles !

It will run on Premium Gasoline ONLY !
 
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Uncoach

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Cattle herds are being expanded all over the Western Hemisphere.
As countries change back to a market demands economy from a government edicts lack of economy.

NASA satellites have photographed 2 major climate events.
1. Expansion of the Northern AND Southern ice shelfs on the World.
Which disproves the World temps are rising zealots.
2. Expansion of green in the world.
Which disproves the World lack of rain.
Point number 2 also says that carbon dioxide is great for plant life. It’s basic science the supposed party of science does not understand.
 
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Uncoach

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Another can you believe this ?

It is reported that Elon just was on some platform announcing that Tesla is introducing Model G for introduction late 2026.

It will retail for approx $ 75,000.

It will have a range of 410 miles !

It will run on Premium Gasoline ONLY !
I can buy an Acura that runs on premium only.
 

Uncoach

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I am willing to concede water use is growing too much in the Colorado river basin because the water allocations are based on a nominal water supply and the river is running below that -- and all 7 states are close or above their allocations, so lake Mead is dropping every year. In 2006 the US population, including illegals was 310 million. 20 years later we are up to 350 million and they all drink water.

Some may be yearning for a time when agriculture and ranching had plenty of water. Not going to happen with all this immigration. The birth rate is less than 2, so the entirety of the growth is immigration. If it comes to people or agriculture, the politicians will choose people every time. Maybe we should turn off the immigration spigot.

Finally, the biggest problem with cattle herds is in Texas and Oklahoma, not the Colorado river basin. Lots of factors, incl they use feed to grow the cattle, not just "free" grazing. Trump has fixed some of the regulations but there is no easy fix to change this. It may be that America will need to start importing more of its beef, we already do it with vegetables and flowers.

(I got my wife "fresh" flowers for her birthday at Alberstons recently and they were from South America! Lots of logistics and air freight to get them to market in 3-5 days. But apparently they are lower cost than locally produced flowers.

Edit: I realize that people are moving to the Southwest voluntarily so it isn't just immigration. But an added 40 million in 20 years is a lot of extra people.
I certainly understand the population growth can and has caused issues exacerbated by the lack of rain/dried tributaries from the mountains filling the Colorado River and thus Lake Mead. It will rain/snow again. The Colorado River will rise. There will be some genius (there are more than Musk) who will figure out how the SW can remain heavily populated and still have the necessary water. American ingenuity. Then the radical Dems/greenies will protest against the fix because of some tiny desert insect that would be impacted.
 

rillaman

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Get two.

Our camp up in the Adirondacks is on a spring fed lake about 2 X 6 miles with 28 other one family camps.

The water is so clear that it can used for unfiltered drinking water. We use a filter, just in case.

The camp association has it tested semi-yearly.

It was built pre WW 1 for my Grandmother and her spinster Sisters.

Working on it. Our 2nd home will be in a wetter locale!
 

rillaman

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I have championed Regenerative ag here for the small farmer with, cattle, chickens, pigs, rabbits, sheep better known as "meat".

Take some time and watch Joel Salatin talk about his farm (Polyacres Farm)and it's history from dirt/dust in the 60's to prime pasture land of 175 + acres and 8 miles of buried gravity fed water pipes connected to 8 separate interconnected ponds fed by moisture (rain, snow)

His BEEF cattle herd is moved to new pasture every day inside electric fencing. The entire herd follows his calls and whistles like puppies.

He's the Author of such riveting books as " How to make $ 25,000 a year selling eggs" or "How to make $ 10,000 per acre raising pigs." or my personal favorite, "How my 8 year old Son grew a meat Rabbit business from a 4 H project." (He started with 3 rabbits and rabbits do what rabbits do.

Research what parts of The Gobi, the Sahara or arid regions of India are doing to re-green desert !

Virginia has a lot of water. The ponds have dried up out here. There isn’t enough rain. Virginia is not comparable to the SW.

I think there should be considerable discussion about where we farm, develop, expand in the future. Availability of clean, fresh water should be a key point of those discussions.

And yes, Dems do stupid things. That’s why the GOP should lead those discussions. Democrats released wolves near cattle ranches out here, making the problem worse. They are great at making problems worse. Again, I would rather the GOP lead plans around water and other essential resources, but you can’t even have a conversation without people calling you a squish and changing the topic to global climate change. I don’t give a **** about the globe with this stuff. I care about American resources, and fresh water has always been an important one.
 
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illinimike

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We won the war, and are somehow currently winning the war, like nobody has ever seen

We need help to win the war, but also don’t need help to win the war, like nobody has ever seen.

We will destroy the nuclear program that we destroyed last year, like nobody has ever seen.

We are going to free the Iranian people, but also blow them back to the Stone Age, beyond their wildest imaginations, like nobody has ever seen.

Yeah just bad “style points.” lmao

Kiss the midterms good bye. Trump wasted a R majority and will be impeached. The cult is almost dead.
He speaks in such hyperbole it's hard to take any of it serious.
 

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Virginia has a lot of water. The ponds have dried up out here. There isn’t enough rain. Virginia is not comparable to the SW.

I think there should be considerable discussion about where we farm, develop, expand in the future. Availability of clean, fresh water should be a key point of those discussions.

And yes, Dems do stupid things. That’s why the GOP should lead those discussions. Democrats released wolves near cattle ranches out here, making the problem worse. They are great at making problems worse. Again, I would rather the GOP lead plans around water and other essential resources, but you can’t even have a conversation without people calling you a squish and changing the topic to global climate change. I don’t give a **** about the globe with this stuff. I care about American resources, and fresh water has always been an important one.
We don’t need to discuss that at all. You want to have the government tell everyone where to live. That isn’t limited. It’s planned. It’s also a basic tenet of communism. Capitalism and freedom of movement rules. People make bad investments all the time. If the SW becomes way too overpopulated and runs out of water, a considerable portion of that population will move elsewhere leaving homes they sold for way less than what they paid. IOW, the population will decrease on its own.