Harris family aint happy

[JHB4UK]

Something about this doesn't compute. If what some of you say about Harris only getting to be a special team player then why was he third on the team in RB carries? If Scarbrough is so far ahead of Harris why did Harris have 4x the # of carries/touches as Scarbrough?

I think they will split carries like Henry/Drake did this last yr. Scarbrough will be the main back and Harris will be the change of pace guy.

[laughing]

Yeah, Henry & Drake really split their carries in 2015. 339 vs 72. And if anyone has watched Saban at Bama, he sure likes that 2 back equal carry system doesnt he?

don't know if Harris is happy or miserable or indifferent, don't care. didnt want to be a Wildcat, not deserving of continual attention on here. But alas I know it will continue like it did for the linebacker from Danville.

 

[theoledog]

[laughing]

Yeah, Henry & Drake really split their carries in 2015. 339 vs 72. And if anyone has watched Saban at Bama, he sure likes that 2 back equal carry system doesnt he?

don't know if Harris is happy or miserable or indifferent, don't care. didnt want to be a Wildcat, not deserving of continual attention on here. But alas I know it will continue like it did for the linebacker from Danville.

no shot! bingo! two thumbs up!

 

[fromthe25ydline]

I'm sure running through Ky HS football defenses and running against Alabama's scout team are two different things. I'll be greatly surprised if his career pans out so that he gets drafted. He's a small fish in a much bigger bowl. Hate that for him........."

 

[DACats86]

I believe a lot of us said that if Saban didn't like what he saw in the first year (or if Harris got injured), he would run the chance of getting put on Nick's waiver wire...

 

[Los Gatos]

I don't know the answer to that, I don't know if its really happened very often. But I do know he could go JUCO, redshirt, graduate and report to UK with 3 to play 3. One thing you can be pretty sure of is Bama won't release him to sign with a SEC school which means he would have to sit 2 years.

Only way I see this working is if he only spends a year at the JC. Why would any JV give him a scholarship to just redshirt a year? Seems like he would have to pay his own way for the year.

 

[RammerJammer91_rivals23256]

I believe a lot of us said that if Saban didn't like what he saw in the first year (or if Harris got injured), he would run the chance of getting put on Nick's waiver wire...

I don't buy those claims that Saban forces out players early. Just look at Chris Black. He was a top recruit in 2012 and barely played. Beyond the 3 starters, some of our WR's haven't developed into the players that the staff hoped they'd become. Yet, Chris Black was still on the roster, and he was on the team for 4 years. He decided to transfer for his 5th year because he wouldn't crack the starting rotation. Same with Raheem Falkins. He has been a bust, yet he's entering his 4th year on the team. He could have been "forced out" to make room for another blue-chip recruit, but he hasn't. Tyler Love, a 5-star OT recruit in 2008 and was a total bust. We were very thin at OT from 2009-2011, yet Love was on the team and ended up getting his degree. There are plenty of other examples, too.

To be consistent, I also don't buy the claims that Jimbo and Urban "force players out," and believe me, there are a ton of people who believe that they do, especially with Urban. I feel the same way about the claims that Calipari has "forced" players out (Dodson, Wiltjer, Harrow, etc.) to make room for more talented recruits down the line. People make him out to be the devil for not only that, but for constantly recruiting one-and-done players. Laughable.

 

[Mr Schwump]

I don't buy those claims that Saban forces out players early. Just look at Chris Black. He was a top recruit in 2012 and barely played. Beyond the 3 starters, some of our WR's haven't developed into the players that the staff hoped they'd become. Yet, Chris Black was still on the roster, and he was on the team for 4 years. He decided to transfer for his 5th year because he wouldn't crack the starting rotation. Same with Raheem Falkins. He has been a bust, yet he's entering his 4th year on the team. He could have been "forced out" to make room for another blue-chip recruit, but he hasn't. Tyler Love, a 5-star OT recruit in 2008 and was a total bust. We were very thin at OT from 2009-2011, yet Love was on the team and ended up getting his degree. There are plenty of other examples, too.

To be consistent, I also don't buy the claims that Jimbo and Urban "force players out," and believe me, there are a ton of people who believe that they do, especially with Urban. I feel the same way about the claims that Calipari has "forced" players out (Dodson, Wiltjer, Harrow, etc.) to make room for more talented recruits down the line. People make him out to be the devil for not only that, but for constantly recruiting one-and-done players. Laughable.

If you want to see a coach forcing out guys take a look at Jones at UT. After the '14 season 15+ players were shown the door all the while giving rapists on suspension sideline passes. Easy to predict another mass exodus after their spring practice.

 

[yoshukai]

I don't buy those claims that Saban forces out players early. Just look at Chris Black. He was a top recruit in 2012 and barely played. Beyond the 3 starters, some of our WR's haven't developed into the players that the staff hoped they'd become. Yet, Chris Black was still on the roster, and he was on the team for 4 years. He decided to transfer for his 5th year because he wouldn't crack the starting rotation. Same with Raheem Falkins. He has been a bust, yet he's entering his 4th year on the team. He could have been "forced out" to make room for another blue-chip recruit, but he hasn't. Tyler Love, a 5-star OT recruit in 2008 and was a total bust. We were very thin at OT from 2009-2011, yet Love was on the team and ended up getting his degree. There are plenty of other examples, too.

To be consistent, I also don't buy the claims that Jimbo and Urban "force players out," and believe me, there are a ton of people who believe that they do, especially with Urban. I feel the same way about the claims that Calipari has "forced" players out (Dodson, Wiltjer, Harrow, etc.) to make room for more talented recruits down the line. People make him out to be the devil for not only that, but for constantly recruiting one-and-done players. Laughable.

Only problem I have with this post is , Dotson had a drug problem and Wilchers father was behind his transfer . We didn't need their scholarships . I don't know what the hell happened with Harrow .

 

[UKCatNnc]

I like the backs coming in with the 2016 class. Go Cats!!

 

[RammerJammer91_rivals23256]

Only problem I have with this post is , Dotson had a drug problem and Wilchers father was behind his transfer . We didn't need their scholarships . I don't know what the hell happened with Harrow .

I agree. I was saying that I think the claims that Calipari "forced those players out" are garbage. Unfortunately, people still believe that he does force players out. Even though I'm an outsider, I've never understood why Cal gets a lot of crap from non-UK fans/media members. I think he's a classy guy who runs a clean program.

 

[Cabo Blue]

Ok, I've thought it, now I'll say it. When it comes to Harris, my "give a damn is broke"!! He plays for bama, they can keep theirs and we'll keep ours!! Nuff said

 

[BlueRaider22]

[laughing]

Yeah, Henry & Drake really split their carries in 2015. 339 vs 72. And if anyone has watched Saban at Bama, he sure likes that 2 back equal carry system doesnt he?

don't know if Harris is happy or miserable or indifferent, don't care. didnt want to be a Wildcat, not deserving of continual attention on here. But alas I know it will continue like it did for the linebacker from Danville.

I said split like Henry/Drake. I didn't say split 50/50.

 

[ZenCatFan73]

I don't think Harris is any better that who we got. Go Cats!!

 

[BlueRaider22]

The tweets from coaches and the AD on that decision day say otherwise.

Sure, let's go over it again. What did they say?

Careful, I know where this is going.

 

[ukalumni00]

Harris sure did not mind trolling the UK fans and coaches with his tweet with the SEC Championship trophy. The kid is immature and if Stoops were to ever take this kid in I would lose most respect I have left for him. He is not a program changing player and we already have a full roster of talented RB's who WANTED to be at UK.

 

[Comebakatz3]

I don't buy those claims that Saban forces out players early. Just look at Chris Black. He was a top recruit in 2012 and barely played. Beyond the 3 starters, some of our WR's haven't developed into the players that the staff hoped they'd become. Yet, Chris Black was still on the roster, and he was on the team for 4 years. He decided to transfer for his 5th year because he wouldn't crack the starting rotation. Same with Raheem Falkins. He has been a bust, yet he's entering his 4th year on the team. He could have been "forced out" to make room for another blue-chip recruit, but he hasn't. Tyler Love, a 5-star OT recruit in 2008 and was a total bust. We were very thin at OT from 2009-2011, yet Love was on the team and ended up getting his degree. There are plenty of other examples, too.

To be consistent, I also don't buy the claims that Jimbo and Urban "force players out," and believe me, there are a ton of people who believe that they do, especially with Urban. I feel the same way about the claims that Calipari has "forced" players out (Dodson, Wiltjer, Harrow, etc.) to make room for more talented recruits down the line. People make him out to be the devil for not only that, but for constantly recruiting one-and-done players. Laughable.

It is hard to say whether players are forced out or if they just don't cut it. However, as you know, I looked at the RBs for Saban over a number of years and there was one thing that really stuck out to me... almost all the ones that stuck around and ended up being the big time back were starters their freshman year. I think the only exception to this was Lacy, who took a redshirt. I could be wrong, but I believe Richardson, Yeldon, and Henry all played as freshman. Even Drake was one that played as a true freshman. The ones that don't start as true freshmen or play a pretty good role as true freshmen seem to slip through the cracks and don't get much of a chance.

That being said, I am not trying to imply that has anything to do with Saban or his process. It is just how things have shaken out since he's been there. It may also bode at least somewhat well for Harris. The question for him is whether he will be more like Kenyan Drake, getting some solid backup snaps, or will he be able to evolve into that feature back that Saban loves. To some degree it might even be better for him to just be the backup and not have to carry the ball 200-300 times a season.

 

[Monroe Claxton]

Irregardless of where he ends up he got a ring

 

[RACdad]

I wish the kid all the luck in the world. I hope he is successful in life, but I do not want him wearing blue. From most reports he lied to and led the staff into thinking he was coming to UK. I'm big on honor and being a man of your word. As I see it ,Damian Harris does not hold those quality traits

 

[Pike 96]

Irregardless of where he ends up he got a ring

This is the most irrelevant post in this thread to me. Personally I wouldn't care less about having a ring that others earned. In some ways it makes it worse than not having a ring at all. I'd rather go somewhere and contribute

 

[Crushgroove]

Irregardless of where he ends up he got a ring

"Irregardless" is not a word.
Since the prefix ir- means "not" (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means "without", the word contains a double negative. The word irregardless could therefore be expected to have the meaning "in regard to", instead of being a synonym of regardless. That lesson is free of charge.

I can buy a NC ring off Ebay and have about as much vested in it as Harris has in his 1 of 20 Bama NC rings.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

Sure, let's go over it again. What did they say?

Careful, I know where this is going.

Why would I need to be careful?

Barnhart: I’ve thought a lot about Kentucky football this week. I’ll say it again: I’m so excited about where Mark Stoops is taking us. We have the right staff in place, players who are working hard, facilities that are going to be special and the best fans in America. There’s a month left before signing day and I know we’re going to finish another great recruiting class strong. #WeAreUK

Stoops: Reassess, Reaffirm, Reattack

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

I wish the kid all the luck in the world. I hope he is successful in life, but I do not want him wearing blue. From most reports he lied to and led the staff into thinking he was coming to UK. I'm big on honor and being a man of your word. As I see it ,Damian Harris does not hold those quality traits

Agree W...glenn. Being a man that's big on honor and honesty, love your avatar. My father's old commander in WWII. My dad absolutely loved that man.

 

[TeoJ]

To answer the OP,most Cat fans aren't happy with the Harris family.

 

[Blue Decade]

From my meeting with an Alabama coach (I cant name which one) he told me Harris knew he wasn't ready for a prominent role. Harris told him he would rather be a backup taking some snaps behind the Alabama OL than being featured and crushed behind the UK OL.

Bullsht

 

[Chump Change X]

Why are so many still fascinated by this egotistical putz? Move on people.

 

[Blue Decade]

He burned UK once, and left the coaches scrambling to try and get a rb (king). Stoops had told other highly touted recruits thanks but no thanks, Harris is our back. Helicopter rides to high school games and long relationships and UK basketball games. Saban called and the kid spurned every benefit and relationship that had been built. When you play in mud, you get dirty. He handled the entire process with zero class. I'm not apologizing, I hope the kid never plays a meaningful down of football.

LOL! Lots of players get the royal treatment when they are recruited. I don't recall anyone here having any high handed moral objections when Malik Monk said no to Arkansas or when Bam Adebayo turned down NC State. If Harris burned Kentucky, then that would mean every player who gets an offer burns that school unless the offer is accepted. That narrative is ridiculous. Harris has a right to attend school wherever he wants. He made his decision, and I could not care less why he did it. It's done. You guys keep reliving and rehashing this. Every time, the hate festers. And that's crazy. Just let it go. Harris will never play at Kentucky, but not for your reasons. And we don't need him. But that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Harris. There isn't anything wrong with Monk or Adebayo either. Can't we just drop this and move forward?

 

[podgejeff_]

IF this is true, I'm sure there's a community college somewhere who would love to have Harris on their roster. His scholarship here was taken by King.

 

[GYERater]

The num nums on the board and their Harris obsession crack me up. Scarbrough has been at Alabama longer than Harris and so far has 1/3rd of the carries. The way Saban uses his RBs if Harris isnt the main guy for a couple years that isnt exactly a bad thing, save those legs for the NFL because Harris will be playing on that level some day - get ready for it.

 

[BlueRaider22]

Why would I need to be careful?

Barnhart: I’ve thought a lot about Kentucky football this week. I’ll say it again: I’m so excited about where Mark Stoops is taking us. We have the right staff in place, players who are working hard, facilities that are going to be special and the best fans in America. There’s a month left before signing day and I know we’re going to finish another great recruiting class strong. #WeAreUK

Stoops: Reassess, Reaffirm, Reattack

The reason why I said to be careful was that it didn't matter what the staff said on the day Harris decided. They were going to put up a good front the entire time. Before the decision they were going to send out nothing but positive quotes. They weren't going to say, "Well, we tried, but he's not going to choose us as his conference today." And following the decision they aren't going to say, "We knew it." or "He played us, he's a punk." The only thing they can say is, "Sure we're disappointed but we wish him well."

Being recruited is like speed dating. There really isn't any commitment at that point. The college program's job is to sell themselves to the recruit. The recruit's job is to take in what each program is trying to sell and make a decision on the future. To any staff, it's business. Just as it is with Stoops' staff. They asked Harris for permission to "date" him, they rolled out the absolute red carpet, and in the end he chose to marry someone else. It would've been way different had Harris gave us a verbal, talked all over twitter about how proud he was to be part of the BBN, and then bolt on signing day.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

Think you are missing a bunch...but don't need to get into it again about this kid.

 

[why_not_kentucky]

The num nums on the board and their Harris obsession crack me up. Scarbrough has been at Alabama longer than Harris and so far has 1/3rd of the carries. The way Saban uses his RBs if Harris isnt the main guy for a couple years that isnt exactly a bad thing, save those legs for the NFL because Harris will be playing on that level some day - get ready for it.

Daddy Harris is that you.

 

[WildcatofNati]

The num nums on the board and their Harris obsession crack me up. Scarbrough has been at Alabama longer than Harris and so far has 1/3rd of the carries. The way Saban uses his RBs if Harris isnt the main guy for a couple years that isnt exactly a bad thing, save those legs for the NFL because Harris will be playing on that level some day - get ready for it.

Exactly what part of his freshman performance convinces you of this? That scintillating sub 3.5 yards per carry?

The NFL doesn't give a damn about where a player was ranked in high school. If Harris wants to play in the NFL, best he step it up, and soon. At this point, his future destination looks to be Jacksonville St, as opposed to, say, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

We all wanted him at UK, and I guess we're going to discuss his career here. That's fine. I didn't have to read through this thread, but I did.

Here's my take. I loved my time at UK, but I left Kentucky after that to follow my dreams. Left behind everyone and everything I knew to move to a place where I didn't know a soul. It was a risk. I could have failed. Mr. Harris followed his dream. He wanted to play for the best college football program going right now. I'm not going to fault him for that. I hope he realizes those dreams. I almost always pull for young people from Kentucky to do well.

 

[buckkiller]

Its the way he did it!

 

[UKCatNnc]

Its the way he did it!

Kind of like beating your head against a wall isn't it? Go Cats!!

 

[BBBLazing]

In any other situation you'd be right. However with the way he handled the situation, I don't think the coaches would be open to having him on the team. Even though he's an amazing athlete, there are other important things that go along with it.

He never committed here. Why does everyone keep saying he handled it bad. If our coaches are so dumb that they put all their eggs in a basket with a kid that had decommitted from Michigan and refused to commit here, we made our bed. Get over it guys.

 

[BBBLazing]

Maybe? You don't say.

No thanks. Gimme kids that want to be here. Gimme kids that don't lie to our coach. Gimme kids that show some level of loyalty, don't pout about playing time when the grass isn't greener or use our resources to better their chances at winning Mr. Football in a state they have no intention of playing in. You know, call me picky. I can be that way sometimes when it comes to standards.

So you don't like Boom?

 

[yoshukai]

LOL! Lots of players get the royal treatment when they are recruited. I don't recall anyone here having any high handed moral objections when Malik Monk said no to Arkansas or when Bam Adebayo turned down NC State. If Harris burned Kentucky, then that would mean every player who gets an offer burns that school unless the offer is accepted. That narrative is ridiculous. Harris has a right to attend school wherever he wants. He made his decision, and I could not care less why he did it. It's done. You guys keep reliving and rehashing this. Every time, the hate festers. And that's crazy. Just let it go. Harris will never play at Kentucky, but not for your reasons. And we don't need him. But that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Harris. There isn't anything wrong with Monk or Adebayo either. Can't we just drop this and move forward?

When Monk and Adebayo knew where they wanted to go they committed . They didn't string the staff and fans along like Harris . I'm bettin they didn't go on the local radio show and ask fans to come fill the stadium with Blue like Harris did either . And yes he did that on Matt Jones show .

 

[jauk11]

He never committed here. Why does everyone keep saying he handled it bad. If our coaches are so dumb that they put all their eggs in a basket with a kid that had decommitted from Michigan and refused to commit here, we made our bed. Get over it guys.

Yeah, they should have done like Joker and not embarrassed ourselves by offering him. They should have waited until the next in state five star came along------and hey, they did. But since Harris was the ONLY five star the state has had since they started rating them I guess they didn't figure on us having one THREE years in a row. The second one turned out just fine and a good chance the third one will also, hopefully our OL looks a lot better this year and he can see where we are going.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Only way I see this working is if he only spends a year at the JC. Why would any JV give him a scholarship to just redshirt a year? Seems like he would have to pay his own way for the year.

Never said he would get a scholarship, or even be on the team, just transfer pay his own way graduate and have 3 years to play. Or he could transfer with a scholarship play a year and have 2 years left. WOuldn't really matter, if he was good enough he is gone after the first year at the 2nd 4 year school. Family wouldn't be happy if he came to UK either, he be behind Boom on depth chart.