Here's a rumor for you...

DudyDog

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Croom could be very successful here if he only played his cards correctly. If he would hire an OC and let them actually take control and oversee and run the offense, he could be more successful than any coach in MSU history.

The face of the program...and understand what I'm saying here....the perception outside of the MSU family towards our program is at an all time "high"....follow me here....at an all time high as far as "class, character (I know, I know), doing it the right way, etc. etc. I know I lost some of you there....but if you still ask the Herbstreits, Corso's, etc of the world they all pull for Croom (thus MSU) to succeed. The national media does all it can to shine MSU in a positive light is what I'm getting at. (Now think of the Sherrill era and the national media....). That is the point I'm trying to make there.

Next is Croom's ability in momma's living room. We've all seen the results in this regard. Sure we can argue that we are still not getting the cream of the crop in recruiting, which I totally agree. But we've done pretty darn good considering the circumstances. One winning season and we see what happened this spring and summer in recruting. Imagine that with a consistent winner.

If Croom would simply treat the program like a manager of a major league team and "manage" the program, he could be ultra successful. Put your pride aside (we all know you were an OC in the NFL.....for one of the worst franchises in history I might add), and hire an OC and let them actually run the offense. If they become successful, guess what? You then become successful and are all of a sudden a genius.

Why he can't see this, I don't know. This is not a good time to put this comparison out there I know....but it's worked in the past....just look at Tuberville. He makes no bones that he doesn't know the offensive side of football. He hires an OC and let's then run it. Again, not exactly the time to use that as an example, but he's been pretty darn successful with it in the past. And I assure you, he will again. He hasn't suddenly forgotton how to win.

Unfortunately Croom will never have this chance because I don't believe he'll ever do something like this.

Edited to add.....since we all like rumors....I heard that Byrne went in Croom's office after the Ga. Tech game and wanted to get his "ideas" on improving the offense, in which Croom got up and walked out of his office mumbling as he left, "We're going to continue to do the same things we've been doing to make the offense better", leaving Byrne sitting there.
 

patdog

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To use your analogy, Crxxm's had 5 years to play his damn cards right and he hasn't done it yet. If he hasn't figured out how to play his cards in 5 years, what are the odds he's ever going to figure it out.
 

fishwater99

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Lumpy Chucklelips said:
If Croom would simply treat the program like a manager of a major league team and "manage" the program, he could be ultra successful. Put your pride aside (we all know you were an OC in the NFL.....for one of the worst franchises in history I might add), and hire an OC and let them actually run the offense. If they become successful, guess what? You then become successful and are all of a sudden a genius.
B/c he is a dumb *** crooked hat wearing fat *$!! who promised his buddy Woody a job.
Croom is behind the "WCO" offense and has failed to land a QB in 5 years...
We don't have time to see if Russell pans put under Crooms..

If he doesn't get rid of Woody this year we will not be seeing Croom next year....
The question is how supid and stubborn Croom really is, we will soon find out...
 

DudyDog

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patdog,

I get it perfectly. I even wrote....

Unfortunately Croom will never have this chance because I don't believe he'll ever do something like this.
 
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Damn them for not getting enough pick-six's to win any games this year.
Hell with all the extra pressure that has been placed on Croom and Woody to actually score, the defensive coaches should be fired. Hell, Byrne go ahead and give them a raise!!! "Spread The Wealth"
 

Mjoelner

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Stormrider81

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I think Croom throws Woody under the bus and keeps his job for another year. Yes, he is stubborn but I bet he likes making $1.7 mil a year more than he likes having control of the offense.

Not that I wouldn't like to see your scenario work out, but I wouldn't hold my breath. This is the same man that emphatically stated "I'm not firing anyone" after the second game of the 2006 season before firing several coaches after said season. The man's not known for remaining rock solid on everything he says.
 

Coach34

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after 5 years of "this is my offense", "we aint changing nothing", "we have found our identity", and "we going to line up and run right at them win or lose"....i think its pretty safe to say he isnt going to just tell Byrne "you're right, lets scrap this cause it aint working. I cant wait to hire a new OC and give up the control that I love having so much".

He has too much pride and is way too hardheaded. He wont even let Woody run what he wants to run.
 

fishwater99

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[b said:
Coach34[/b]]after 5 years of "this is my offense", "we aint changing nothing", "we have found our identity", and "we going to line up and run right at them win or lose"....i think its pretty safe to say he isnt going to just tell Byrne "you're right, lets scrap this cause it aint working. I cant wait to hire a new OC and give up the control that I love having so much".

He has too pride and is way too hardheaded. He wont even let Woody run what he wants to run.
That would be our best case scenario and I could see it happening and would prove that Crooms is dumber than we think he really is...
 

shaschboy

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Why would they all meet in Memphis? It doesn't make sense to be there, unless you are meeting with Sexton. He's in Memphis, handled or is handling every major coach. You would go to him like Bama did when they got Saban. He's the buffer. Makes sense and I would have to agree that if we lose to MTSU, it could and should be lights out. That would finally put the nail in the LT coffin (with the exception of Stans).
 

MrHooch

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patdog said:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">The MTSU game is damn near a must win for Crxxm</span>. If we go 3-9 or 2-10, I think Byrne's going to see the writing on the wall for season ticket sales next year. We could easily be looking at a $2.5M decrease in ticket sales / concessions / parking if we keep Crxxm with that kind of record this year. Much cheaper to just pay him his $1.7 per year buyout and hire a new coach now.</p>
It is a sad day in bulldog nation when the mtsu game is counted as a must win and not a given.