Here's the guy

[615dawg]

http://www.facebook.com/p...Harvey-Updyke/1239559868

 

[615dawg]

http://www.facebook.com/p...Harvey-Updyke/1239559868

 

[615dawg]

http://www.facebook.com/p...Harvey-Updyke/1239559868

 

[thunderclap]

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[jeremyrbrown]

Bear Updyke and Crimson Chavez.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

The guy apparently bonded out for $50,000, and title for his double wide to pay the $5,000. That state is +%@@$% up

 

[DawgatAuburn]

http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=14048912

 

[615dawg]

Unless something comes down from the feds, and this is his first charge of criminal mischief (as a retired state trooper, I assume it is) the max penalty is a fine of $500 and up to 2 years probation.

 

[KurtRambis4]

shocker. He didn't attend UAT. Does ANYONE actually go to UAT?

 

[Shmuley]

"Al from Dadeville" when calling into Finebaum.

I guess he wanted to get caught and gain some sort of sick notoriety.

 

[gptdawg]

http://www.facebook.com/p...Harvey-Updyke/1239559868

Facebook says he lives in Mobile.Report said Dadeville- a long way from Mobile.

 

[boomboommsu]

That judge is as much of an @ss as this guy is.</p>

 

[615dawg]

Can't explain the Mobile reference, but plenty of sites are reporting that's him. Maybe he once lived in Mobile, I don't know.

Plus a news report said he was a retired Texas state trooper, and this guy's profile says that as well.

 

[Original48]

Comment #94...somebody not happy things didn't go his way.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/1...gor-sec-football-ncaa/7/

 

[patdog]

just as soon as they can figure out what what crime they can fit the facts into. I can't believe causing that much damage (I'm sure the damages will top $100K easy) can be just criminal mischief with a max penalty of $500 fine and 2 years probation. There's got to be some more crime(s) they can charge him with.

And yes, the guy is an idiot. First for doing it. Second for calling in to Finebaum to tell everyone. And third for using his real name.

 

[tenureplan]

Even a minor criminal conviction will open the door for a huge civil suit. Auburn will bankrupt this dude.

 

[fishwater99]

just as soon as they can figure out what what crime they can fit the facts into. I can't believe causing that much damage <span style="font-weight: bold;">(I'm sure the damages will top $100K easy)</span> can be just criminal mischief with a max penalty of $500 fine and 2 years probation. There's got to be some more crime(s) they can charge him with.

And yes, the guy is an idiot. First for doing it. Second for calling in to Finebaum to tell everyone. And third for using his real name.

Maybe $10K- $20K and that might be kind of high......

 

[jzahner1]

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[seshomoru]

will be a huge expense. It won't be a Superfund site or anything, but apparently that stuff will have to be removed or nothing will grow there for years. They won't be just cutting them down, hiring somebody to remove the stumps, and planting some new ones.

 

[tenureplan]

It's about how much it will cost to clean the soil and transplant 2 120 yr old oak trees in the same place. Plus the costs of trying to keep the Toomers alive.

 

[chew1095]

Even a minor criminal conviction will open the door for a huge civil suit. Auburn will bankrupt this dude.

Would bankrupt this dude.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

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[boomboommsu]

any competent attorney will successfully argue that the only legal obligation is to replace the trees with ones of equivalent size.

regardless, the cleanup costs will dwarf the cost of the trees.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Improperly using a controlled substance....Feds
Removal of a 160 year old tree or trees
Replacing said tree to the extent that can be done
Removal of a hazardous material (dig out the dirt and take said dirt to a qualified disposal facility)
PAIN and Suffering issue.

The guy is going to do 60 days, and/or be foreced to go to counceling...and do community service.
The the $ tab is going to much greaterthat you might think.

 

[medearis]

If he's living in a double wide then he's judgment proof. This is a criminal matter.

 

[vandaldawg]

and there are only a few services out there that can competently do that. The removal of the existing is one thing. The soil abatement another. And then to transplant in new giant live oaks requires this service where they dig a huge area around the dripline of the tree, go deep underneath it to keep the taproot intact, and then put it on this specialized flatbed truck. It's a damn process. And even if it was just the cost of the tree, I can guarantee you the cost of a 50" dbh Live Oak is a hell of a lot more than you think.

 

[jtk47]

The cost for replacing a a single tree that size would be 30000-40000 dollars, if it lives. I worked for a tree and soil restoration company at one time. Fallen Oak golf course spent somewhere around 10 million transplanting live oaks and other various specimens when they built the course. It adds up quick. And for insurance purposes based on the Burnley Method calculator each tree is worth 60000-70000 dollars. This is based on size, location, and aesthetics.

 

[jzahner1]

I remember the Beau Rivage after the storm having to flush the ground to remove the salt water from their live oaks. And salt water has no where near the killing power as this stuff.

 

[mjh94]

is environmental design. they transplanted a tree to replace the famed monterey pine on pebble beach 18. that cost: $300,000 for one tree.. let that sink in Harvey Updyke. pretty sure that Texas state trooper pension plan won't even come close to that.

 

[MSUCE99]

but I am hearing on message boards that Homeland Security is involved as well due to the potential of groundwater contamination from the amount of poison used on the site. It will be interesting to see if this is true.

Somebody is going to federal PMITA prison, I'm guessing.

 

[patdog]

I can guarantee you the cost of a 50" dbh Live Oak is a hell of a lot more than you think.

 

[jakldawg]

and they were paying people for the live oak trees (and magnolias, I think) from their yards that are now out front. I'm sure it was some insane sum. If Harvey is loaded like Steve Wynn, it won't be a problem.<div>and here's his awesome mugshot.</div>

 

[Shmuley]

I'm not following.

Very good post, but you just had a Spinal Tap moment.

vandaldawg wrote: I can guarantee you the cost of a 50" dbh Live Oak is a hell of a lot more than you think.

 

[MedDawg]

In the comment section of that link.

 

[patdog]

<span><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Xlf5ucFanpY&fs=1&source=uds&autoplay=0" width="425" height="355" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="never" ></embed> </span>to be lowered during their song.? Only the lead singer writes down that he wants an 18" Stonehenge instead of an 18' Stonehenge.? So the manager gets him exactly what he wrote down, a 1-1/2 foot tall Stonehenge. I can't find a clip to the actual scene from the movie, but here's one of them playing it live.

 

[captaindawg]

if they had to buy the replacement for it from an MSU alum for $180,000.

 

[MSUDawg25]

So 50" is correct.

 

[patdog]

Carry on.</p>

 

[rebelinmemphis]

I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that any judge or especially a jury would take into consideration the historical importance of those particular trees. Simply replacing them is impossible (unless they can find some 130 year old live oaks somewhere that they will be allowed to dig up and move). I imagine courts take into consideration significance and not just replacement value. Plus, they are going to try to save them, which will involve a lot of experts and Cam Newtonish funds, so dude should be responsible for that too.

 

[boomboommsu]

If I total my car, can I call up my ins company and say the car meant so much to me, that I think they should pay me triple it's book value?