Here's the press release on the coach's voting for 2012 SEC baseball. Germanic? ...

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Birmingham, Ala. -- The Florida Gators are predicted to repeat as the 2012 Southeastern Conference baseball champions, as voted by the league’s 12 baseball coaches in the 21st annual preseason SEC poll.

The Gators, ranked No. 1 nationally in the preseason USA Today/ESPN Coaches’ Poll, seek to capture their 13th SEC Championship. UF returns seven position starters and nine pitchers from its 2011 squad which claimed a share of the overall SEC Championship and advanced to the College World Series finals versus South Carolina.

Since 1996, the SEC?has named a regular season champion as well as a tournament champion. Prior to 1996, the tournament champion was considered the SEC Champion.

In addition to picking a preseason SEC champion, the league’s head coaches voted a predicted order of finish in the SEC Eastern and Western Divisions. In the Western Division, Arkansas was the favorite with 64 of a possible 66 points. LSU came in second with 58 points and Alabama third with 38. Florida was the favorite in the Eastern Division with all 66 points. South Carolina, the two-time defending National Champions, was second with 56, while Georgia finished third with 42.

Points were compiled on a 6-5-4-3-2-1 basis for each division. Coaches were not allowed to vote for their own team. Each coach also voted for one team as an overall conference champion.

The 2012 SEC regular season begins Friday, February 17, with conference play set to begin Friday, March 16. The SEC Tournament will be played at Regions Park in Hoover, Ala., May 22-27. The 2011 SEC Baseball Tournament drew nearly 100,000 fans. Six times in the last nine years the tournament has surpassed the six-digit mark in total attendance. The 2010 event drew close to 130,000 fans, an all-time record. An NCAA-record of over two million fans attended games in the SEC last season, the 10th year in a row the SEC has topped the one million mark in attendance, leading the nation once again in that category by a wide margin.

Eastern Division

Team Points 2011 SEC Record/Finish
1. Florida 66 22-8/Tied For 1st
2. South Carolina 56 22-8/Tied For 1st
3. Georgia 42 16-14/4th
4. Vanderbilt 40 22-8/Tied For 1st
5. Kentucky 25 8-22/5th
6. Tennessee 18 7-23/6th

Western Division

Team Points 2011 SEC Record/Finish
1. Arkansas 64 15-15/1st
2. LSU 58 13-17/Tied For 5th
3. Alabama 38 14-16/Tied For 2nd
4. Ole Miss 34 13-17/Tied For 5th
5. Mississippi State 33 14-16/Tied For 2nd
6. Auburn 20 14-16/Tied For 2nd
 

patdog

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Makes no sense at all to do away with divisions in basketball, but not in baseball. We play as many baseball games against the East as we do against the West.
 

Coach34

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They have won head to head something like 12 years in a row or something. But I do agree that baseball doesn't need divisions either- just no push to eliminate them because play is pretty equal
 

patdog

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Why don't we do away with divisions in football then? Because the West is at least as dominant in football as the East is in basketball? I'm really not bitching about the divisions in basketball though, I'm really seriously asking why we need them in baseball? It makes no sense at all to have divisions when there's no scheduling difference between the two divisions. And it has as much effect on the baseball tournament as it does on the basketball tournament because it screws up the breakdown into two brackets for the baseball tournament.
 

RebelBruiser

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The only sport that needs them is football because of the limited schedule and the need for a championship game for money purposes.

That said, the baseball tournament is much less important than the basketball tournament. Since only 8 teams are invited (going to 10 I believe), almost all of the teams are regional bound and playing for seeding. In basketball, over half the league is playing for their tournament life most every year. The seeding deal doesn't bother me in baseball either for that same reason. Whether you have a good route to the title game or not really doesn't matter all that much, especially since in baseball a one game slice depends so much on pitching match ups and things like that.

There still isn't a reason to have divisions though, other than to allow more than one team to claim a version of a championship each year. Back when they used to have the East and West tournaments separately, it served some purpose, but not these days. With 14 teams now, I say you keep it at 30 games and rotate which 3 teams you miss each year. If the league wants to keep rivalries as permanent, you can designate certain match ups to not rotate, but rotate all the rest.
 

patdog

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We didn't have them when we played a 24-game schedule and I'm pretty sure we rotate all 6 cross-divison teams now.
 

Incognegro

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Allow them to schedule a series with their rival schools without it counting towards SEC play?
 

patdog

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back when we had the original divisions in baseball or when we went to the new divisions with expansion. I don't see any reason why they would when we go to 14 teams. Those are big football rivalries, but they really hadn't played in baseball hardly at all until the late 80s, and then again when the schedule expanded to 30 games. And those are really the only significant cross-divison rivalries there are.
 

RebelBruiser

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I'm talking about if you go to one league of 14 teams and no divisions, and you play 10 series every year. That's 3 teams that are left off the schedule every year that would have to rotate.

If you do a full rotation than Ole Miss-MSU and Bama-Auburn would have years where we didn't play a series. I think you'd want to at least allow one permanent series that didn't rotate off. Pair up Missouri-A&M, LSU-Arkansas, Florida-Georgia, South Carolina-UT, and Vandy-UK as well, and let all the others rotate.
 

Todd4State

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That's the only reason for the divisions- to determine who does and who doesn't have to play every year.

The only way to do it without having divisions is to have all 14 teams somehow play conference games agianst each other midweek or do away with the pre-conference weekends. I don't think the coaches or the AD's would be in favor of either one of those.
 

patdog

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You play a 10-series conference schedule, with 3-5 permanent opponents and 8-10 rotating opponents. That said, divisions make more sense in a 14-team league than they do in a 12-team league when you play 10 conference teams. At least then, there's some differentiation between the schedules of the two divisions.
 

QuaoarsKing

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Though I'd hate to not play Alabama or LSU some season.<div>
</div><div>Perhaps each team could have 4 permanents and rotate through 6 of the other 9. Or even 7 permanents and rotate 3 of the other 6.</div>