HF / Loyola

[king murph]

I simply forgot to post my 1980 HF Russians vs the 1980 LA Americans thread.

To me, this is a pretty easy game to discuss, but not to pick a winner. It simply comes down to LA's defense being able to contain HF's offense. IMO, i think they will. Here's why:

HF played two teams this season which i put in the Good, better than average category, Brook and LWE (brook improved at the end of the season mostly on defense, which is the point of this point). Against these teams, HF scored 22 and 28 respectfully. IMO, LA's defense is better than both of these, and will keep HF's offense under or at 28 points.

Offensively, HF has not seen a team even close to LA's offense. LA mixes the pass and run better than any team in the state. That said, I do not think that HF's defense will be overwhelmed by LA's attack on offense. On the other hand, I do believe LA has faced an offense as good as HF's - or at least near it in Rice and I do believe LA has faced a defense as good as HF - or at least near it in MC. In both games, LA crushed their opponent.

Lastly, we know HF can be beat. We do not know that about LA.

35-21 LA

i agree, im thinking 35-23 Loyola

 

[DeanOfSelection]

5dimes has the O/U at 58. definitely advising all my clients to take the OVER. LA is -11

 

[capnbillhitters]

Good Doctor, the thing about fratty is he knows football, just not logic: P12:ergo. His posts start off terrific, then the spiral of death arrives and it all ends like a barrel bomb of words.

"barrel bomb of words"

lmao

 

[GMAN81]

Good Doctor, the thing about fratty is he knows football, just not logic: P12:ergo. His posts start off terrific, then the spiral of death arrives and it all ends like a barrel bomb of words.

I am simply not going to waste my time on that nonsense. MWittman mentioned several different aliases he posted under and I do remember killer croc. That guy came in like a tornado, insulted everyone he wrote to and dared Edgy to "terminate" him. A request Edgy gladly accepted.

 

[king murph]

back to the main theme;
saw Brother Rice week 1 and 2, they scored 56 and 49 in those two games, played Loyola in week three and scored 0. my point being i was super impressed with their offense. i concede i haven't seen HFs offense, though they maybe better then Rice they cant be that much better so i think they will have too work very hard to put up points on Loyola
Secondly, Im surprised no one has brought this up, week 2 HF played Stevenson and won 43-29. Last week Loyola wiped out Stevenson 49-0. thats a difference of 35 points. now im not suggesting Loyola beats HF by 35 but looking at these 2 factors I see Loyola winning by 14-17 points

 

[LHSTigers94]

back to the main theme;
saw Brother Rice week 1 and 2, they scored 56 and 49 in those two games, played Loyola in week three and scored 0. my point being i was super impressed with their offense. i concede i haven't seen HFs offense, though they maybe better then Rice they cant be that much better so i think they will have too work very hard to put up points on Loyola
Secondly, Im surprised no one has brought this up, week 2 HF played Stevenson and won 43-29. Last week Loyola wiped out Stevenson 49-0. thats a difference of 35 points. now im not suggesting Loyola beats HF by 35 but looking at these 2 factors I see Loyola winning by 14-17 points

I am pretty sure HF was probably overly hyped in that game with Stevenson. We you lose the championship like they did. emotions most likely created mistakes. I didn't see the game so I can't comment for sure but, logic says both teams played differently that game compared to the rest of the season.

 

[Corey90]

"but the way these LA fans are talking they are making me lean towards HF!" Could you please give examples? I haven't seen any LA supporters write any obnoxious or over confident posts. Or are you just talking out of your arse?

Look at
Gannicus: post then talk to me.

 

[Corey90]

Corey: In the past I would have been right on it, ripping away. But I have to ask, what's the point? Arguments here never get won or lost. They just go on till one side or the other stops posting or Edgy throws it down the toilet. That's the reality here. Secondly, I would consider the source in deciding whether I should respond or not. At that time I ask myself, do I really want to go down into the sewer just because someone is already there? I have allowed myself to be dragged into the sewer before and I am not doing it here. I'd rather just walk by this one. I made my point in my earlier post. I do think Loyola will beat H-F. I also think it may not be that close in the end. Just my opinion though.

Well you learn fast grass hopper. I am not so sure LA will win. I will say if HF can find away to play disapline mistake free football they will win. I say this with a big "IF".

 

[goodnamesaregone]

I am pretty sure HF was probably overly hyped in that game with Stevenson. We you lose the championship like they did. emotions most likely created mistakes. I didn't see the game so I can't comment for sure but, logic says both teams played differently that game compared to the rest of the season.

Only the second game with HF's new defensive coordinator. The second half was completely different than the first. I believe that Stevie only scored once in the 2nd half. I'm not sure it's a real good barometer of how this game will go.

 

[goodnamesaregone]

back to the main theme;
saw Brother Rice week 1 and 2, they scored 56 and 49 in those two games, played Loyola in week three and scored 0. my point being i was super impressed with their offense. i concede i haven't seen HFs offense, though they maybe better then Rice they cant be that much better so i think they will have too work very hard to put up points

There is no comparison between BR's offense and HF's offense. Loyola could shut down the Brothers because the Rice Guys are, essentially, one dimensional. Even one dimension of HF's offense isn't one dimensional. I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from a week 3 shut out. Sorry.

 

[lookoutforliam]

There is no comparison between BR's offense and HF's offense. Loyola could shut down the Brothers because the Rice Guys are, essentially, one dimensional. Even one dimension of HF's offense isn't one dimensional. I wouldn't draw too many conclusions from a week 3 shut out. Sorry.

I disagree with that re BR. "Rice guys are one dimensional "? Rice can put up points quick and in bunches. Not sure how that qualifies as one dimensional. As far as Stevie, it's their only common opponent. LA beat them soundly. Stevie hung with HF. Finally, coaching wins in the playoffs.

 

[bigkell]

Hey it 's the high school version of Miami vs ND or FSU vs ND.....should be fun to watch

 

[Corey90]

Hey it 's the high school version of Miami vs ND or FSU vs ND.....should be fun to watch

That's an accurate accessment. Should be a good game.

 

[goodnamesaregone]

I disagree with that re BR. "Rice guys are one dimensional "? Rice can put up points quick and in bunches. Not sure how that qualifies as one dimensional. As far as Stevie, it's their only common opponent. LA beat them soundly. Stevie hung with HF. Finally, coaching wins in the playoffs.

They are one dimensional because they really only have a high-powered passing game. You can focus on shutting down one aspect of BR's offense, and if you have the players to do that (like LA does), then you can shut them down.

It's harder to do that with HF because they have high-powered play-makers all over the offense, with stud running backs (multiple), stud receivers and a quality quarterback who also can run. It's harder to focus on shutting down one aspect of HF's offense (but I still think that's what LA will have to try to do - 8 men in the box and make the passing game beat them).

Stevie only really stayed with HF during the first half, and it was a much different defense for HF at that point in the season.

Again, my money is on LA to ultimately win the game. But not because LA shut out BR in week 3 of the season.

 

[king murph]

They are one dimensional because they really only have a high-powered passing game. You can focus on shutting down one aspect of BR's offense, and if you have the players to do that (like LA does), then you can shut them down.

It's harder to do that with HF because they have high-powered play-makers all over the offense, with stud running backs (multiple), stud receivers and a quality quarterback who also can run. It's harder to focus on shutting down one aspect of HF's offense (but I still think that's what LA will have to try to do - 8 men in the box and make the passing game beat them).

Stevie only really stayed with HF during the first half, and it was a much different defense for HF at that point in the season.

Again, my money is on LA to ultimately win the game. But not because LA shut out BR in week 3 of the season.

Stevie didn't stay with Loyola for any part of the game, well will all know about 22 hours from now.