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High School Basketball and Edwin (aka Lumumba)

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In reading about some of the new Jackson mayor's antics, him not pledging allegiance to the USA or honoring our flag, I was reminded of a very obvious similarity that I have seen at high school basketball games, and even at my kid's awards day at school this year. A noticeable percentage of blacks who refuse to show any semblance of patriotism, purposely avoiding any gesture (hand over heart, etc.) that would show them to be patriotic. I'm not a fan of painting with a wide brush, but what's the deal? Is it en vogue to disrespect the country? I obviously don't understand because I grew up with the idea that we were one nation...
 
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I hope not. I was very sincere in asking why. When you are in a crowded gym and it is national anthem time, it is very noticeable and I don't understand it. I've just always thought it odd, but seeing the Lumumba stance and ideas I'm curious to know if there is more to it.
 
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I don't see where you are asserting anything negative. It is definitely a curious topic. Not sure you will get any great answers though. I don't have one.
 
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You can't phrase it that way.

If you were to tiptoe around it and not expressly use the word 'black,' it probably wouldn't be on the locked chopping block.
 
Philly Dawg

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I think if you look around the gym or stadium at any sporting event, you'll see that a substantial number of all persons of all races simply stand up and do not put their hand over their heart or sing along with the national anthem.
 
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I've been in several integrated gyms and never seen anything like this. I'd be surprised to see this happen, and I must admit that I doubt it did or does happen along racial lines as described.
 
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Philly Dawg said:
I think if you look around the gym or stadium at any sporting event, you'll see that a substantial number of all persons of all races simply stand up and do not put their hand over their heart or sing along with the national anthem.
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People find what they LOOK for. Aka Horshack
 
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FirstPoetsThenSunDoggy said:
I've been in several integrated gyms and never seen anything like this. I'd be surprised to see this happen, and I must admit that I doubt it did or does happen along racial lines as described.
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Well this guy changed his name to an African name... I think it's for the same reasons that dude from Gulfport High who played for the Memphis Grizzlies changed his name and refused to stand for the pledge during NBA games. He said he refused to honor a country that was built on slavery or something just over the top.
 
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That dude was the greatest basketball player to ever come out of MS......and that is a pretty coveted list. As for the OP

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Originally Posted by mcdawg22

People find what they LOOK for. Aka Horshack

When I walk through the woods I never see a snake, you know why? I dont look for em.
 
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horshack said:
In reading about some of the new Jackson mayor's antics, him not pledging allegiance to the USA or honoring our flag, I was reminded of a very obvious similarity that I have seen at high school basketball games, and even at my kid's awards day at school this year. A noticeable percentage of blacks who refuse to show any semblance of patriotism, purposely avoiding any gesture (hand over heart, etc.) that would show them to be patriotic. I'm not a fan of painting with a wide brush, but what's the deal? Is it en vogue to disrespect the country? I obviously don't understand because I grew up with the idea that we were one nation...
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As a poli sci person, the quick and dirty answer is that anyone from a protected class (Minorities, women, minority religions, the disabled, gays) will naturally feel less patriotic than than those in the majority because the laws of this country were made by and set up for the success of people who are not like them. People do not want to pledge allegiance to anything that they feel does not have their best interest at heart. At any school where a group of students, in your case the African Americans at your kid's school, feel like them, their family, or their friends are not treated as equals, it is understandable they do not feel the need to show the most overt sign of fealty to a system that they do not have faith in.
 
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As long as one is facing the flag and standing at attention

the practice of putting a hand on your heart or singing is a personal decision

are you aware that prior to WWII we saluted the flag during the pledge but it was changed to the hand on ones heart so we wouldn't look like over zealous Nazi's
 
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Or.... maybe lots of people not just black athletes don't do this and this guy only noticed and ascribed motives to one subset. Most likely, most kids who aren't putting their hands over their hearts have no motive whatsoever.
 
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