Hillary may have stepped in it, big time

[WVPATX]

Her immediate reaction to the shooting, without knowing any facts, was to blast the NRA and call for more gun control. She did this without knowing:

1. Was it a terrorist attack or simply workplace violence?
2. What guns were used?
3. How were those guns acquired?
4. Were the guns acquired legally or illegally?
5. Would any current Dem gun control ideas have actually stopped these guns from being acquired?

More importantly, if this is indeed a terrorist attack, her call for gun control looks moronic. France has very strict gun control and yet Paris and Charlie Hebdo happened. She did not call for more FBI agents. She did not call for more NSA surveillance. She did not call for more spending on anti domestic terrorist activities. In fact, she is calling for more immigration from the Middle East.

Her foreign policy record is abysmal anyway. Now, it could get much worse with her premature judgment. The attacks ads write themselves.

 

[moe]

Her immediate reaction to the shooting, without knowing any facts, was to blast the NRA and call for more gun control. She did this without knowing:

1. Was it a terrorist attack or simply workplace violence?
2. What guns were used?
3. How were those guns acquired?
4. Were the guns acquired legally or illegally?
5. Would any current Dem gun control ideas have actually stopped these guns from being acquired?

More importantly, if this is indeed a terrorist attack, her call for gun control looks moronic. France has very strict gun control and yet Paris and Charlie Hebdo happened. She did not call for more FBI agents. She did not call for more NSA surveillance. She did not call for more spending on anti domestic terrorist activities. In fact, she is calling for more immigration from the Middle East.

Her foreign policy record is abysmal anyway. Now, it could get much worse with her premature judgment. The attacks ads write themselves.

lol you're kidding right? I saw her tweet, not a big deal. You're such a drama queen.

 

[MountaineerWV]

So what you are saying is that she didn't say "Protect the 2nd Amendment....F**K the others!" Isn't that the approach of most right-wingers?

 

[robEERt]

Her immediate reaction to the shooting, without knowing any facts, was to blast the NRA and call for more gun control. She did this without knowing:

1. Was it a terrorist attack or simply workplace violence?
2. What guns were used?
3. How were those guns acquired?
4. Were the guns acquired legally or illegally?
5. Would any current Dem gun control ideas have actually stopped these guns from being acquired?

More importantly, if this is indeed a terrorist attack, her call for gun control looks moronic. France has very strict gun control and yet Paris and Charlie Hebdo happened. She did not call for more FBI agents. She did not call for more NSA surveillance. She did not call for more spending on anti domestic terrorist activities. In fact, she is calling for more immigration from the Middle East.

Her foreign policy record is abysmal anyway. Now, it could get much worse with her premature judgment. The attacks ads write themselves.

Hillary herself is laughable. Everyone who is legally permitted to carry a gun should. Buy a gun, qualify and obtain a gun carry permit. Join the NRA

 

[WVPATX]

lol you're kidding right? I saw her tweet, not a big deal. You're such a drama queen.

Like I said, the attack ads write themselves. She was very very stupid with that remark.

 

[moe]

Like I said, the attack ads write themselves. She was very very stupid with that remark.

I guess if they obtained the guns legally then everything is cool.

 

[WVPATX]

I guess if they obtained the guns legally then everything is cool.

That makes her look even worse. They theoretically acquire the guns legally and Hillary is calling for more gun control while a terrorist kill 14 Americans. It's amazing if you don't see how stupid this makes her look.

 

[moe]

That makes her look even worse. They theoretically acquire the guns legally and Hillary is calling for more gun control while a terrorist kill 14 Americans. It's amazing if you don't see how stupid this makes her look.

Or perhaps it makes gun loving nuts like you and the NRA look a little foolish. Give me one reason why assault weapons should not be banned from being owned by the general public. Why does the ordinary American need an assault weapon? I own guns but no assault weapons and I could definitely ruin a home invaders day. This discussion has been had many times and I guess I need to hear the same tired old reason(s) again.

 

[bornaneer]

Or perhaps it makes gun loving nuts like you and the NRA look a little foolish. Give me one reason why assault weapons should not be banned from being owned by the general public. Why does the ordinary American need an assault weapon? I own guns but no assault weapons and I could definitely ruin a home invaders day. This discussion has been had many times and I guess I need to hear the same tired old reason(s) again.

I don't know why anyone would need assault style weapons and I have zero problem with banning them. HOWEVER, the nuts will still do what they do and would find ways to do what they do. The last time I checked it was against every law to murder someone...... but guess what ?

 

[moe]

I don't know why anyone would need assault style weapons and I have zero problem with banning them. HOWEVER, the nuts will still do what they do and would find ways to do what they do. The last time I checked it was against every law to murder someone...... but guess what what?

Good, so let's ban them.

 

[TarHeelEer]

I guess if they obtained the guns legally then everything is cool.

What gun restrictions that the Democrats are proposing have proposed would have stopped any recent mass shooting?

 

[TarHeelEer]

Good, so let's ban them.

Well I do have a problem with it. Part of the reason of arming the citizenry is to offset the government's guns. No, citizens couldn't overtake the government, but it would make it very painful for the government to control the citizenry by force. The government already outguns the citizenry, don't take away more.

 

[op2]

Her immediate reaction to the shooting, without knowing any facts, was to blast the NRA and call for more gun control. She did this without knowing:

1. Was it a terrorist attack or simply workplace violence?
2. What guns were used?
3. How were those guns acquired?
4. Were the guns acquired legally or illegally?
5. Would any current Dem gun control ideas have actually stopped these guns from being acquired?

More importantly, if this is indeed a terrorist attack, her call for gun control looks moronic. France has very strict gun control and yet Paris and Charlie Hebdo happened. She did not call for more FBI agents. She did not call for more NSA surveillance. She did not call for more spending on anti domestic terrorist activities. In fact, she is calling for more immigration from the Middle East.

Her foreign policy record is abysmal anyway. Now, it could get much worse with her premature judgment. The attacks ads write themselves.

Does it occur to you that you say stuff like this all the time, like Hillary has done this that's going to hurt her and Hillary has done that that's going to hurt her, and yet she's still doing just fine? If she really was constantly doing stuff that was going to hurt her then it would be hurting her and she would be doing poorly, right?

She's running for the Democratic nomination so blasting the NRA not only doesn't hurt her, it would probably hurt her if she DIDN'T blast the NRA. And gun control isn't a big issue in national elections if she ends up getting the Democratic nomination.

You really need another hobby because not only are you constantly on he political stuff, a lot of the political stuff you're on isn't even connected to the reality of the political world.

 

[WVUBRU]

The NRA should be called out and no big deal as it pertains to anyone that does it. The country has a gun violence problem and that horrible organization has led to the problem. But this is not anything new and pro nra supporters will continue to deny, deflect, and make excuses. Nothing new.

 

[WVPATX]

Does it occur to you that you say stuff like this all the time, like Hillary has done this that's going to hurt her and Hillary has done that that's going to hurt her, and yet she's still doing just fine? If she really was constantly doing stuff that was going to hurt her then it would be hurting her and she would be doing poorly, right?

She's running for the Democratic nomination so blasting the NRA not only doesn't hurt her, it would probably hurt her if she DIDN'T blast the NRA. And gun control isn't a big issue in national elections if she ends up getting the Democratic nomination.

You really need another hobby because not only are you constantly on he political stuff, a lot of the political stuff you're on isn't even connected to the reality of the political world.

Hillary is losing to 6 republican candidates. If you don't think this makes her look incredibly weak and feckless, then I can't help you.

 

[WVPATX]

Or perhaps it makes gun loving nuts like you and the NRA look a little foolish. Give me one reason why assault weapons should not be banned from being owned by the general public. Why does the ordinary American need an assault weapon? I own guns but no assault weapons and I could definitely ruin a home invaders day. This discussion has been had many times and I guess I need to hear the same tired old reason(s) again.

Please define "assault weapon"

 

[bornaneer]

The NRA should be called out and no big deal as it pertains to anyone that does it. The country has a gun violence problem and that horrible organization has led to the problem. But this is not anything new and pro nra supporters will continue to deny, deflect, and make excuses. Nothing new.

I am on record saying we should ban people from being able to buy assault style weapons. Would you agree that we should also enforce all the gun laws we have in place? Many of the murders had guns they were not allowed to process.

 

[moe]

Please define "assault weapon"

Military style, types of assault weapons that the military and police use.

 

[WVPATX]

The NRA should be called out and no big deal as it pertains to anyone that does it. The country has a gun violence problem and that horrible organization has led to the problem. But this is not anything new and pro nra supporters will continue to deny, deflect, and make excuses. Nothing new.

You have no idea how these guns were acquired, yet you blame the NRA. Typical lib. Do something that makes you feel good regardless if it would actually work. How do you explain Paris with France having some of the strictest gun control policies in the world? Do you not realize we have 350M guns in this country and a ban will only insure that the criminals own those guns?

 

[WVPATX]

Military style, types of assault weapons that the military and police use.

That's no definition. What is military style? Be more specific.

 

[moe]

That's no definition. What is military style? Be more specific.

I thought you knew what they were, my bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

 

[WVPATX]

I thought you knew what they were, my bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

So you are opposed to large magazines? How would you limit magazine sizes? You do know that the killers reloaded their weapons yesterday, right? And what would happen if a killer breaks into a house with a weapon and a large magazine and the homeowner is limited with a much smaller magazine?

 

[moe]

So you are opposed to large magazines? How would you limit magazine sizes? You do know that the killers reloaded their weapons yesterday, right? And what would happen if a killer breaks into a house with a weapon and a large magazine and the homeowner is limited with a much smaller magazine?

What part of "let's ban assault weapons" do you not understand? I'm in favor of it, you're not. Moving on.

 

[WVPATX]

What part of "let's ban assault weapons" do you not understand? I'm in favor of it, you're not. Moving on.

It just shows your ignorance on this topic. You don't have an answer because frankly there is not a good answer. Banning these types of weapons will ensure that only the criminals have these kinds of weapons. Most libs define assault weapons as scary looking guns. When in fact they are simply semi automatic rifles.

 

[moe]

It just shows your ignorance on this topic. You don't have an answer because frankly there is not a good answer. Banning these types of weapons will ensure that only the criminals have these kinds of weapons. Most libs define assault weapons as scary looking guns. When in fact they are simply semi automatic rifles.

You're such a tool. If someone disagrees with you, they are ignorant, right and besides I don't have all day to respond to your NRA approved what if questions. I'm sure that you keep a loaded assault weapon next to the couch as you watch tv of an evening lol and if you don't then you're the biggest hypocrite on here because you know what could happen!! I asked above for one reason why assault weapons shouldn't be banned. You just gave one, that someone might barge in your house holding one. Great reason and real likely to happen. The benefits don't outweigh the disadvantages.

 

[op2]

Hillary is losing to 6 republican candidates. If you don't think this makes her look incredibly weak and feckless, then I can't help you.

Hillary isn't losing to anyone. She is beating everyone she is running against.

 

[WVPATX]

Hillary isn't losing to anyone. She is beating everyone she is running against.

Wrong once again my friend.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/23/fox-poll-hillary-loses-to-everyone/

 

[TarHeelEer]

Military style, types of assault weapons that the military and police use.

The military uses fully automatic weapons. It's already highly illegal for citizens to convert say an AR-15 to fully automatic.

 

[WVPATX]

You're such a tool. If someone disagrees with you, they are ignorant, right and besides I don't have all day to respond to your NRA approved what if questions. I'm sure that you keep a loaded assault weapon next to the couch as you watch tv of an evening lol and if you don't then you're the biggest hypocrite on here because you know what could happen!! I asked above for one reason why assault weapons shouldn't be banned. You just gave one, that someone might barge in your house holding one. Great reason and real likely to happen. The benefits don't outweigh the disadvantages.

Don't own a gun, never have. I am simply pointing out accurately that Libs simply want to feel good rather than developing policies that actually work. You refused to answer my questions because you know there are no good answers. Libs talk about assault weapons but have no idea what they are. In Reality, they are simply scary looking and that's it. Banning large magazines will simply ensure that the criminals are the only ones that have large magazines. Everyone knows it.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

What part of "let's ban assault weapons" do you not understand? I'm in favor of it, you're not. Moving on.

So, I'm actually in favor of something that will attack the problem at hand. What you are currently advocating for is something to be done regardless of whether it has a meaningful impact or not. I know that's not what you think you are advocating ford but to anyone knowledgeable about firearms it is.

CA already has harsher restrictions on weapons than any other state. They already have magazine limitations which is a major characteristic and really the only one that could have any meaningful impact.

Banning semi-autos is not practical as I have shown numerous times because most people don't know what that truly entails. They latch on to buzzwords. A semi-auto is damn near any pistol made today, most shotguns, many deer rifles, and yes, military looking style rifles.

What you are talking about the "military style assault rifles" are purely asthetic features. The features have no bearing on the lethality of a weapon and those features can be easily changed to assimilate the weapon to maintain the same functionality while upholding the requirements of the AWB. We already had an AWB for a decade 94-04 and it had absolutely no impact which is why it was allowed to expire. The gun manufacturers simply modified the the same weapons without those features and while they appeared less scary, there was no true difference. I made a very lengthy post several months ago showing the futility of the what classifies an assault weapon and what those classifications actually do for a weapon. Other than magazine capacity, the rest do nothing. Truly.

There truly only is 1 thing that would help and that is an outright ban on guns or limiting everyone to muzzleloaders and single shots. You are more likely to see tanks sold on the open market before you see a restriction to that.

 

[moe]

Wrong once again my friend.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/23/fox-poll-hillary-loses-to-everyone/

You can't read can you? She's not running against Republicans at this point, got it?

 

[WVPATX]

You can't read can you? She's not running against Republicans at this point, got it?

She's got the Dem nomination locked up. Her stance makes her look very, very weak. Americans don't want yet another weak president. Plus Opie posted that Hillary was beating everyone. I just proved that is not the case.

 

[moe]

Libs talk about assault weapons but have no idea what they are

Yet you ask me what one is, great.

 

[moe]

Plus Opie posted that Hillary was beating everyone

Like I said, you can't read. There are remedial classes that can help you. You do understand that she's running against Democrats, right? Try to keep up.

 

[KTeer]

Well done devildog. Most antigun libtards don't understand that the available " assault weapons" are seml autos. Obviously gun owner Moe doesn't. I know the military caries fully automatic rifles and assume cops long guns are also full auto. I am pretty sure the term "assault rifle" rifle was first applied to light weight, full auto, MG 44 introduce by the Germans in WW II. Copied and perfected by Kalishnokov.
We can only hope the Hildebeast is equally hysterical and eratic in future stressfull events.