May have been discussed here previously. I can see some upside in doing this and I think he could handle the role and might even desire to be a starter. But then the obvious question would be who we move into the closer role? Just a discussion topic. I'm not taking either side of the argument
Holder as a starter next season
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I wouldn't do it. He accepts and excells in his current role. Plus he currently only has two pitches and it would hard to get thru the order more than once with only two pitches...I think we saw the effects of this last Nite. And even tho it worked this year I'm certain Cohen and butch want to get more out of the starters.
Of course, all that hinges on the fact that we find 3 guys that can do the job in a starting role...woodruff, lindgren, Cox hopefully.
Of course, all that hinges on the fact that we find 3 guys that can do the job in a starting role...woodruff, lindgren, Cox hopefully.
To be clear, you're suggesting we remove the greatest statistical closer in the history of MSU from his role to experiment with him as a starter?
Will never happened.
I heard he and his family went ape **** when Cohen/Butch put him in during the 2nd against Ole Miss. He's a closer, and will never be anything other than a closer. He finished #2 for Stopper this year! When was the last time a State player came that close to a national award for being the best player at their position? Don't mess with something that works.
Will never happened.
I heard he and his family went ape **** when Cohen/Butch put him in during the 2nd against Ole Miss. He's a closer, and will never be anything other than a closer. He finished #2 for Stopper this year! When was the last time a State player came that close to a national award for being the best player at their position? Don't mess with something that works.
You know I could see him wanting to make the move. Does he really have the stuff right now to be an elite closer in the bigs? I don't know enough about baseball to say for sure but I do think if he had one more solid pitch in his arsenal he would be one helluva starter
I think Holder's effectiveness comes from his ability to throw an 80 mph 12-6 that might be one of the best in amateur baseball and then knock you out with a 95 mph fastball on the very next pitch, or vice versa.
I've seen him hit 96 a couple times. Once he's in the majors it's fair to say it might move up to 98 mph with some professional weight training.
You move him over to the starting rotation and ask him to throw 80 pitches a game your drawing away from his stamina. I don't think he can throw that many pitches and still have a his deadly fastball... so you're essentially getting a nice curve, a novice 3rd pitch, and perhaps a 90-92 mph fastball.
Holder is an all or nothing guy, which is what you ask out of a closer... not a starter.
As far as being a closer in the bigs, I think he has what it takes, more so than UCLA's closer's style of play. MLB closers rely heavily on the FB, and he has a great one. It's just overshadowed by his CB because college hitters can't do anything with it.
I've seen him hit 96 a couple times. Once he's in the majors it's fair to say it might move up to 98 mph with some professional weight training.
You move him over to the starting rotation and ask him to throw 80 pitches a game your drawing away from his stamina. I don't think he can throw that many pitches and still have a his deadly fastball... so you're essentially getting a nice curve, a novice 3rd pitch, and perhaps a 90-92 mph fastball.
Holder is an all or nothing guy, which is what you ask out of a closer... not a starter.
As far as being a closer in the bigs, I think he has what it takes, more so than UCLA's closer's style of play. MLB closers rely heavily on the FB, and he has a great one. It's just overshadowed by his CB because college hitters can't do anything with it.
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