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<blockquote data-quote="Buckaineer" data-source="post: 129448572" data-attributes="member: 1428007"><p>You are the one that initiated a comparison and made a bogus claim of the two conferences being a wash.</p><p></p><p>The conference coach Holgorsen just finished up a season in had more top ten and fifteen teams and teams competing for a championship than the Big East ever had--and was as deep and talented (or moreso) as WVU all the way down to two schools. Its not a flat even no difference situation for WVU, and unfortunately the results haven't been what WVU fans would love to have overall as a result. It is more than misleading to claim the teams that WVU is playing don't have a pulse. I.e. did Texas Tech have a pulse when they beat Arkansas at Arkansas by double digits--a team that went on to beat many SEC "powers"--or do they just not have a pulse in your mind because they also lost to some outstanding BIG 12 competition? Same for Kansas State with narrow losses to an excellent TCU squad among others. </p><p></p><p>Again you are trying to compare teams while ignoring the facts at the same time. The teams aren't the same because they have the same record--who did they play and how did they play in the games?</p><p></p><p>Seriously, is a 9-4 Rutgers team that beat 1-AA Howard, 3-9 FIU, 1-AA Texas Southern, 5-7 Army, and 4-8 Louisville but lost to 4-8 Syracuse and finished 4th in that best 2009 Big East really comparable in your mind to the BIG 12s # 4 Baylor of this season? The BIG 12 is a different animal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buckaineer, post: 129448572, member: 1428007"] You are the one that initiated a comparison and made a bogus claim of the two conferences being a wash. The conference coach Holgorsen just finished up a season in had more top ten and fifteen teams and teams competing for a championship than the Big East ever had--and was as deep and talented (or moreso) as WVU all the way down to two schools. Its not a flat even no difference situation for WVU, and unfortunately the results haven't been what WVU fans would love to have overall as a result. It is more than misleading to claim the teams that WVU is playing don't have a pulse. I.e. did Texas Tech have a pulse when they beat Arkansas at Arkansas by double digits--a team that went on to beat many SEC "powers"--or do they just not have a pulse in your mind because they also lost to some outstanding BIG 12 competition? Same for Kansas State with narrow losses to an excellent TCU squad among others. Again you are trying to compare teams while ignoring the facts at the same time. The teams aren't the same because they have the same record--who did they play and how did they play in the games? Seriously, is a 9-4 Rutgers team that beat 1-AA Howard, 3-9 FIU, 1-AA Texas Southern, 5-7 Army, and 4-8 Louisville but lost to 4-8 Syracuse and finished 4th in that best 2009 Big East really comparable in your mind to the BIG 12s # 4 Baylor of this season? The BIG 12 is a different animal. [/QUOTE]
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