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steelman65

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No. The PSU wrestling team is not a bunch of mercenaries. Mesenbrink and Welsh are 2 guys that were with other schools, but Mitchell never wrestled attached for Cal Baptist and Rocco was asked to redshirt at OSU last year. Both said that they wanted to come to PSU because it is the best room in the world. Neither were guaranteed a starting role and money played little to no part.

That's a little bit different than 70-80% of a football roster being made up of transfers...most of whom were looking for a paycheck.
Check out the Iowa wrestling forum. They are accusing PSU wrestling of being bought and paid for mercenaries.

Seems like it is ok if we do it but if someone else does the same thing it is completely wrong.
 

SleepyLion

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Check out the Iowa wrestling forum. They are accusing PSU wrestling of being bought and paid for mercenaries.

Seems like it is ok if we do it but if someone else does the same thing it is completely wrong.
Not sure how much the PSU wrestlers are being paid.

 
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PSUPetch

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Check out the Iowa wrestling forum. They are accusing PSU wrestling of being bought and paid for mercenaries.

Seems like it is ok if we do it but if someone else does the same thing it is completely wrong.
The sour grapes Iowa gang can make all of the accusations they want if it makes them feel better.

Here’s an idea. Take a few minutes and count the starters for both schools in the past 5 years that transferred in from somewhere else. This will be fun.
 

PSUPetch

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That Penn State wasn't in the playoff so wouldn't you want the team that build their program the way you want to be successful instead of Indiana Miami Texas Tech etc that is 23+ with 60% or more transfers?
I guess it depends. If the 10% transfers (8 or 9 players) at Georgia were paid millions, while the 70% of Indiana transfers that were given a chance from lower level schools had to split that same cash….hmmm...makes one pause.
 
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Check out the Iowa wrestling forum. They are accusing PSU wrestling of being bought and paid for mercenaries.

Seems like it is ok if we do it but if someone else does the same thing it is completely wrong.

Complete bs - Cael Sanderson has 12 National Championships at PSU, the first was in 2011-2012 (his 2nd year at PSU). That is more than a decade before the advent of NIL Payments to Athletes. You're post is laughable bs - just because a bunch of whiny, loser, douchebag Iowa trolls say something doesn't actually mean it has any validity. LMAO at you and your lame troll post.
 

Phils rug

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Check out the Iowa wrestling forum. They are accusing PSU wrestling of being bought and paid for mercenaries.

Seems like it is ok if we do it but if someone else does the same thing it is completely wrong.
That's like saying check out the pitt board for their fair and balanced opinion on Penn State football 😂
 

KingLando

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I guess it depends. If the 10% transfers (8 or 9 players) at Georgia were paid millions, while the 70% of Indiana transfers that were given a chance from lower level schools had to split that same cash….hmmm...makes one pause.
You're greatly underestimating how much Indiana spent ...especially on Mendoza. Indiana spends more than most programs. See who they added this portal season as well. Fans not recognizing names doesn't mean that they were cheap
 

steelman65

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Complete bs - Cael Sanderson has 12 National Championships at PSU, the first was in 2011-2012 (his 2nd year at PSU). That is more than a decade before the advent of NIL Payments to Athletes. You're post is laughable bs - just because a bunch of whiny, loser, douchebag Iowa trolls say something doesn't actually mean it has any validity. LMAO at you and your lame troll post.
Troll post. Just pointing out how crazy minimizing Indiana national championship sounds. These other teams fan bases have been yelling slush fund steroids and other nonsense for years.

I say sour grapes on that crap. Just like I call sour grapes on the Indiana cheater crap. They played by the rules. The wrestling team plays by the rules so what is the difference?
 

lions1995

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Players are getting paid via NIL. You can get all twisted up about the nuance of what universities say but players are still getting paid. But that's not the topic of the thread which was started by someone who is envious of Indiana.
Not really sure they are getting paid via NIL. Schools are paying them. Name, Image and Likeness was to allow the players to cash in via (in my opinion) endorsements they were able to get from businesses. I do not believe what is going on now is what the intent was. They are being paid to play football.
 

PSUPetch

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I guess it depends. If the 10% transfers (8 or 9 players) at Georgia were paid millions, while the 70% of Indiana transfers that were given a chance from lower level schools had to split that same cash….hmmm...makes one pause.

You're greatly underestimating how much Indiana spent ...especially on Mendoza. Indiana spends more than most programs. See who they added this portal season as well. Fans not recognizing names doesn't mean that they were cheap
My original post was not specifically about Indiana per se. It was meant to be more of a theoretical discussion on your argument of the virtue of taking less numbers of athletes in the transfer portal.

Taking it a bit further with the Indiana/Georgia debate. Let’s say both programs spend $20mil for transfers. Is Georgia more virtuous if they pay fewer players huge sums? Taking Mendoza’s chunk out, Indiana would be spreading the remaining millions amongst MANY more players than Georgia.

Keep in mind, I don’t know the actual situations of both schools. I’m just asserting that your argument that I should root for Georgia simply because of their percentage of transfers vs Indiana is too simplistic. Many other variables would need to be considered.
 

KingLando

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My original post was not specifically about Indiana per se. It was meant to be more of a theoretical discussion on your argument of the virtue of taking less numbers of athletes in the transfer portal.

Taking it a bit further with the Indiana/Georgia debate. Let’s say both programs spend $20mil for transfers. Is Georgia more virtuous if they pay fewer players huge sums? Taking Mendoza’s chunk out, Indiana would be spreading the remaining millions amongst MANY more players than Georgia.

Keep in mind, I don’t know the actual situations of both schools. I’m just asserting that your argument that I should root for Georgia simply because of their percentage of transfers vs Indiana is too simplistic. Many other variables would need to be considered.
The original argument was "people hate the portal so we should embrace the teams that don't rely on it"
But, yes, Georgia keeping their own players instead of running them off to get other guys is commendable IMO
 

Chumboshifko1

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I care, because I’m a bit older and remember when College football was about school spirit, real student athletes, homecoming, tradition…and it was way more engaging and fun. I still root for PSU, but it’s not the same.

Trying to imagine Shane Conlan and DJ Dozier transferring to Miami for a big payday in their 5th year. Don’t mind me…like I said…I’m just old.
Same here.
I care, because I’m a bit older and remember when College football was about school spirit, real student athletes, homecoming, tradition…and it was way more engaging and fun. I still root for PSU, but it’s not the same.

Trying to imagine Shane Conlan and DJ Dozier transferring to Miami for a big payday in their 5th year. Don’t mind me…like I said…I’m just old.
 
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JVP_Yahweh

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I don't think anyone really gives two ***** about who transfers in wrestling and whatever money they get. Ira has done a great job of building the financial foundation and Cael is Cael. The rest takes care of itself. That said, it's a non-rev sport and loses money even in the NIL era and it's an niche sport that most people couldn't care less about. Bragging rights aside, there is no financial incentive here

Football, on the other hand is about revenue. Smart people understand the importance of generating revenue at a university. Investment in football drives being competitive. Winning in football drives revenue. Bragging rights aside, winning in football is the most important thing an athletic department can have in 2026 and beyond