Holy ****, Cal is dropping baseball...

8dog

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the sport is more popular than ever. I don't know anyone that would really care about Cal dropping baseball other than Xavier Nady.
 

patdog

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Fact is, very few people even give college baseball a first thought, much less a second one. We don't really see that because we're in one of the few conferences that does care about college baseball. There have always been lots of schools that don't even play college baseball. It won't be any worse for the PAC-10 or college baseball as a whole to have Oregon playing and Cal not playing than it was for all those years Oregon didn't play baseball and Cal did. It'll still be a fringe sport for most schools.
 

8dog

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I only compared it to itself. My point was--why would a sport begin to fold when it is now more popular than ever? It is on tv more than ever; they do things to reach out to schools all over the country to try and get more schools involved. The time to fold was 20 years ago.

That was the main point. The second point was--California is irrelevant. Why would their folding matter to anyone?
 

QuaoarsKing

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<div>Cal has only made the NCAA Tournament twice in the past nine seasons in a conference which routinely gets over half its teams into the tournament.</div><div>And, in both of those years (2008 and 2010), the Bears went 0-2.</div><div>
</div><div>Now, if it were Cal State Fullerton or even Fresno State dropping baseball, I'd be worried. But Cal baseball is about as important as Arkansas women's basketball or something.</div>
 

patdog

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Nobody will even notice they're gone. The only way this would hurt college baseball would be if this is the beginning of a trend of schools dropping baseball. But I don't see any indication that it is.
 

jmbeck

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...in '81, which was just ahead of the popularity boom.

I think this will start a trend with more and more Athletic Departments trying to do more with less.

This is a program that made the post-season last year. This is a Pac-10 school. I think this will be the first of at least a handful of programs over the next 5-10 years.
 

jakldawg

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And jacking up student fees can only cover for so many "non-revenue" sports. I'm sure schools have done this with sports like tennis and soccer, we're just paying attention because "we're a baseball school."
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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In addition to baseball, the school will eliminate men’s and women’s gymnastics and women’s lacrosse. The defending champion men’s rugby program will remain but no longer be fully funded.</p>

The cuts will save $4 million in 2011-12, according to the university
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Todd4State

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In fact, college baseball is stronger than ever. The Super Regionals and the CWS are BIG events on ESPN. And it's about to get stronger once MLB makes some changes to the draft which I think are inevitable- including a slotting system and making the draft worldwide. Those two things are going to cause more high school players to go to college because it's going to take away a lot of their negotiating leverage, and the international guys are going to cause guys to drop down in the draft lower than they would have previously. It's also going to mean that you are going to see more juniors in college baseball going back to school as well because it's going to drop some of them down as well. Basically, what that amounts to is more good players going to college, and staying in college for four years. Those draft changes will probably occur in the next couple of years or so. They are also going to be able to trade draft picks, but I don't think that will affect college baseball at all.

The roster limits are also going to insure parity to a degree. I don't like the roster limits- I think they should be at least 40 for every team. I also think that there should be at least 20 full scholarships per team, and then 5-10 50% scholarships, which would allow for 10 walk-ons. And I would also like to see college baseball go back to wood bats as well. At the very least, the major conferences should- SEC, PAC-10, ACC, and Big 12- for conference games.



Also, the new draft rules are good for the Delta State's and the JUCO's of the world because with the roster limits and better players coming in at the D-I level, it's going to force better players to drop down to the lower divisions that wouldn't have been there in the past.
 

jakldawg

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that actually funds the rugby team (and the championships are from %5C%5Cstructure%5C%5Ccontent%5C%5CBrand%20Resource%20Center%5C%5CContent%5C%5CHome%5C%5C20907F3F-1296-67B3-8E24-1D5867F7FF1E%5C%5C20907F3F-1296-C13F-E148-142B476F575B%5C%5C21D9415F-129C-4033-54CE-97B8852FAF20%7B%7BTab%3AView%7D%7D]USA Rugby and not the NCAA-so of course they can still survive). Which is one of the reasons why they basically win it every year, since the vast majority of the other teams are club teams that have to beg an intramural/rec. sports office to replace uniforms or use a van.