Honest question for those who think Masoli is such a game changer

Sutterkane

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Do you think Oregon is not going to win the pac-10 because he's gone?

Let's please not turn this into a "WELL YOU WOULD'VE TAKEN HIM GIVEN THE CHANCE!!" thread, because, yes we would, if anything because we need more depth at qb. So does Ole Miss so I don't blame them for taking him either, and yes he's very talented.

I still think a lot of his success is being surrounded by superior talent in a league that plays pitiful defense while playing in a successful scheme. I don't see him making a 2 game difference in Ole Miss's win count this season as some of you are saying, because their schedule is already easy. They aren't going to beat Alabama because they have Masoli.
 

SyonaraStanz

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but I think it will be more along the lines of 1 game. Before all of this Masoli Mania, I was calling the OM/Vandy game a toss up, simply because Vandy has found away many times to beat a better OM team. I could also see OM going down to UK, TN, or MSU. Now with Masoli, he gives them that little extra against those teams, that I consider really close to OM. Aside from Bama, FL, and maybe a couple other teams, I think the rest of the SEC is fairly equal, so a talented athlete can make a difference in may games because a lot of times, only a small difference is needed.

The potential for 2 or 3 games is there, but I still think 1 is more reasonable.
 

jacksonreb1

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18 returning starters anyway but as important as the qb is his dismissal will make their road more difficult. he is/was the starting qb for a reason. but i think they will still be very good.

as far as ole miss i think yes a 2-3 game potential swing. i think we'll win 6 if we don't actually field a qb due to a well, gentle schedule. i think IF he pans out the vandy, tn, ken, msu, ark, lsu are all more winable than without him. not saying we'll win all those but vandy, tn, ken at least move from tossups at best to "likely" wins for us IMO.

i think he takesus from probably 6-7 wins to maybe as many as 9. time will tell.
 

patdog

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to 7-5 and a trip to Nashville in late December. And that's a huge difference.
 

jacksonreb1

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time will tell but with our schedule and our defense (assuming it is as good as it should be) i think even without masoli we win 6-7. maybe 6 more likely but i think we'd be 5-0 coming to bama and i don't think we'd go 0-fer in the rest of the yr. i do think he's the difference between being really pissed and being somewhere between satisfied under the circumstancesto irrationally exhuberant.
 

coleman62

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i don't see him by himself making that big of a difference. However, i do think the more a defense is forced to adjust and/or keep up with, the better it makes the offense. if it works out and masoli does come in, and they can implement a new package based on a spread with some good plays, it could pay off. prime example is the egg bowl last year. the tyson offense was run a good portion of the season. mullen puts relf in with a different scheme and all hell unleashed. granted, ole miss didn't adjust like they should have but you get the idea. but like i said, i don't think masoli would do it on his own and if they try to adjust the entire scheme to him, it could be detrimental all together.
 

Sutterkane

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Their first 5 games are pretty easy with the exceptions being UK and Fresno, and 4 of those 5 are at home with the only road game @Tulane.
 

fishwater99

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Kelly had no choice but to kick him off the team at Oregon. He will easily win two games more for the Rebels.
Iwish we would have gotten him at State.
 

dogfan96

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LaMichael James is a homerun threat every time he touches it and that opened things up for Masoli a lot.. not to mention they had a really good OL
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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..every year we hear "Ole Miss will go 5-0 in their first 5 games." And it always turns out to be ********.


Sure heard it last year. Didn't happen. Do you realize that great Ole Miss team of 2008 started the season 3-2?


When was the last time Ole Miss actually started a season 5-0?
 

Sutterkane

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nobody(outside of OM fans maybe) thought Ole Miss would go 5-0 in 2008. They played Florida their 5th game and were coming off of a 0-8 SEC season.

nobody(outside of OM fans maybe) thought they were going 5-0 last year either even with the hype. 4-0? Yes, but their 5th game was against bama. They ended up 3-2, just like the year before.

They don't have anybody even close to the caliber of bama or florida in their first 5 games this year.
 
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siverstreak

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Masoli or not, it is still a team sport. If he stays out of trouble Oxford and UM has a winning season, could be some positive pub for Ole Miss.
 

Shunface

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get your 17'n facts straight.<div>
</div><div>But you think he wasn't any good just because he wasn't annointed the starter the second he stepped on campus? Does it really matter where he started on the depth chart if he finished on top took his team to a 20-6 record as a starter, won the pac-10 and a rose bowl?</div>
 

RebelBruiser

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Sutterkane woya]nobody(outside of OM fans maybe) thought Ole Miss would go 5-0 in 2008. They played Florida their 5th game and were coming off of a 0-8 SEC season.

nobody(outside of OM fans maybe) thought they were going 5-0 last year either even with the hype. 4-0? Yes, but their 5th game was against bama. They ended up 3-2, just like the year before.

They don't have anybody even close to the caliber of bama or florida in their first 5 games this year.


What about Fresno and Kentucky? Not even Vandy?

For the record, I don't think we'll start 5-0 either. I'm expecting 4-1. We'll slip up somewhere.