Honestly, how does O.M. get these guys into school?

[shaschboy]

A serious question. I live in B-ham, and when talking with the Bammers, they feel, like I do, that O.M. gets away with murder and nobody questions it when it retains to getting questionable kids into school. To me, it's like they adhere to Conf. USA standards for admittance and the rest of us are SEC. When you look at Powe, Rory Johnson, Brent Schaffer and so on, when does the APR catch up to them?

Now people are posting that PP doesn't have the grades. Does anyone know for sure? I'm just amazed how O.M. can pull off getting these morons into school. I would love to hear some honest evaluations.

 

[dawgstudent]

Don't act like OM is the only one.

 

[8dog]

during the Croom Orgeron era of getting kids in school. We need to get better at it.

 

[dawgstudent]

that we have done the same thing in the past. Ole Miss might have done better but it's not like everyone else is innocent.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

they do it waaaaaaaay more often and way better than we do. Not saying we don't, but not like they do. Eddie Strong, Chris Strong, Jamarca Sanford, I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on................

 

[Foronce]

wow

 

[RebelBruiser]

Well, we're all on the same program now. The Cellular South program is essentially the Orgeron program, and given that you are signing a lot more in state players, I'll bet that you are actually going to benefit a lot more from the borderline guys performing miracles this year.

They all have to go through the NCAA, and everyone has players that were questionable on academics coming out of high school.

 

[muddawgs33]

<span class="post-title"><span class="post-title">Disagree...OM definitely did a better job than we did...</span>during the Croom Orgeron era of getting kids in school. We need to get better at it.</span>

That's because we recruited character guys... You know the guys that had offers from Troy, Uab and La. Tech, while O actually went after talent no matter how retarded they were. And Bama has no room to talk about getting guys in that are borderline retarded. Hell, they got that FB from SP in, what last year that the great O even backed off of.

 

[8dog]

some of our best signees that were top guys failed to qualify: Antonio White, Jazzmen Guy, Dixon.

They may have turned out to be awful (I think the first two quit football) but it illustrates the point.

 

[AngryReb.nafoom]

O.M. gets away with murder and nobody questions it when it retains (sic) to getting questionable kids into school

 

[shaschboy]

He committed to us for 2 years in a row, then we bailed because he didn't show that he would pass his grades. O.M. gets him, he plays for 1 semester and bolts for the NFL(no luck). At what point does APR come into play with these guys. I thought that went against your school? Does anyone know the rules as it relates. Hell, I know during Sherrill's years he went after brain surgeons, but for the most part, they graduated. We never really had any early departures for the NFL. But that was years ago, and I thought this APR thing was supposed to punish schools that went after these idiots. Just ask UAB.

 

[MSUCostanza]

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[RebelBruiser]

I don't know how that factors in, and we had some low APR years. However, I think they loosened the rules to not punish for transfers and players leaving early as long as they were on path academically. Johnson pretty much did nothing at Ole Miss and therefore had no choice but to try the draft, so I would guess he counted as an 0 for 2. However, for the most part, the guys that have been in school have stayed eligible with a few exceptions (Chris Strong being one, Jamal Harvey another).

There are a lot of guys who are borderline getting in that are able to stay eligible if they are put on an athlete-friendly path.

 

[RounderReb]

Patterson has a 2.9 GPA and is in good shape to qualify. Don't act like State doesn't ever get borderline academic recruits in school.