Host sites announced

[She Mate Me]

We all know USM doesn't deserve a host bid but you've got the DEI equivalent going on trying to prop up these terrible conferences and teams. The NCAA is worthless, and we all know that too.

We don't all know that. There are plenty of people who are fine with them hosting. Anybody who's not a perpetual grump will acknowledge they were clearly deserving of consideration for a host.

You play the hand you're dealt. 44-14 record. 7-5 in Q1 RPI games. #19 RPI ranking, #15 non-conference RPI rank. Ranked in the Top 25 of both major voter polls basically all year with the most recent rankings inside the Top 18.

Acting like it's ridiculous they were considered for a host spot is more ridiculous than them being awarded one.

 

[Mr. Cook]

The sad truth is how far this program has fallen that this season is emblematic of what has slipped through this administration’s fingers: USM and Ole Miss hosting and MSU with “champagne” facilities and off-brand beer program performance

Baseball at MSU hasn’t just regressed since the Natty, it’s cratered. Even Ole Miss has bounced back in shorter time than MSU.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

We don't all know that. There are plenty of people who are fine with them hosting. Anybody who's not a perpetual grump will acknowledge they were clearly deserving of consideration for a host.

You play the hand you're dealt. 44-14 record. 7-5 in Q1 RPI games. #19 RPI ranking, #15 non-conference RPI rank. Ranked in the Top 25 of both major voter polls basically all year with the most recent rankings inside the Top 18.

Acting like it's ridiculous they were considered for a host spot is more ridiculous than them being awarded one.

We do know that. There were teams with better RPI and schedules in higher rated conferences. Dont tell me they're top 16 when their metric says otherwise. It comes down to politics just like us getting left out last year for a lesser team. It's time to eliminate politics and these committees. Now, had we gotten to host last year, results would've been the same and we'd be stuck with Lemonhead, so no big deal. But the way this stuff works is archaic.

 

[CaptainFalcon]

The sad truth is how far this program has fallen that this season is emblematic of what has slipped through this administration’s fingers: USM and Ole Miss hosting and MSU with “champagne” facilities and off-brand beer program performance

Baseball at MSU hasn’t just regressed since the Natty, it’s cratered. Even Ole Miss has bounced back in shorter time than MSU.

I mean we fired our coach midseason so I think I everybody is on the same page in understanding that.

 

[The Peeper]

3 baseball programs in Mississippi. 2 hosting regionals. 1 is traveling.

SEC gets half of the 16 host sites. And 5 of the top 8?

State just happy to be included

Calling all Lemonis supporters, where are you now?

 

[She Mate Me]

We do know that. There were teams with better RPI and schedules in higher rated conferences. Dont tell me they're top 16 when their metric says otherwise. It comes down to politics just like us getting left out last year for a lesser team. It's time to eliminate politics and these committees. Now, had we gotten to host last year, results would've been the same and we'd be stuck with Lemonhead, so no big deal. But the way this stuff works is archaic.

We just disagree. The difference is I don't state things that are obviously up for debate as if I'm definitely right and it should be obvious to the world.

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

I hope they send us to Hattiesburg.

Both USM and FSU are making a big stink about NOT having MSU in their regional....USM has two alums, plus an AD on the committee....If i was a betting man, we will not end up in Hattiesburg. They try to keep teams within 400 mile radius, but doesnt always happen. Conway or Clemson could be a good possibility....maybe Chapel Hill? ......I pray we dont end up on the west coast....we don't play well historically on the west coast. If we are a 3 seed, I could see us on the west coast, and somewhere closer to home as a 2 seed. Don't know how this plays out, but i don't see us in Hattiesburg. The 3 seeds are the last ones to be placed.

 

[CaptainFalcon]

Both USM and FSU are making a big stink about NOT having MSU in their regional....USM has two alums, plus an AD on the committee....If i was a betting man, we will not end up in Hattiesburg. They try to keep teams within 400 mile radius, but doesnt always happen. Conway or Clemson could be a good possibility....maybe Chapel Hill? ......I pray we dont end up on the west coast....we don't play well historically on the west coast. If we are a 3 seed, I could see us on the west coast, and somewhere closer to home as a 2 seed. Don't know how this plays out, but i don't see us in Hattiesburg. The 3 seeds are the last ones to be placed.

I continue to believe they will send Bama or Florida to Hattiesburg before they send us there. Maybe I’m wrong but I agree with your sentiment that they usually seem to geographically place 2’s and then geography matters less on the 3 line.

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

I continue to believe they will send Bama or Florida to Hattiesburg before they send us there. Maybe I’m wrong but I agree with your sentiment that they usually seem to geographically place 2’s and then geography matters less on the 3 line.

well, just a little update....D1 baseball did their Nerdcast this morning.....Kendall rogers, Aaron Fitt, and Mark Etheridge.....they have MSU as a 3 seed in Hattiesburg with Georgia Tech as a 2 seed, and Fresno State as the 4....

the Oxford regional has UM 1, Arizona 2, Miami 3, and Murray State 4.....as hot as Ole Miss was in the tourney, Arizone is not a team you want as your 2 seed right now....woof.....both of these regionals will be tough if it falls as they projected.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Did LSU play themselves out of a top-8 seed? Five SEC teams are locks for top-8 seeds. Are they going to put a sixth SEC team in the top 8 with the #10 RPI?

If so, do they put LSU, Tennessee, and Ole Miss across from other SEC teams in the super round?

The best-case scenario is that they send us to Hattiesburg, not paired with an SEC regional.

Don't worry about LSU. The committee will always find them the easiest path to Omaha .

 

[patdog]

We don't all know that. There are plenty of people who are fine with them hosting. Anybody who's not a perpetual grump will acknowledge they were clearly deserving of consideration for a host.

You play the hand you're dealt. 44-14 record. 7-5 in Q1 RPI games. #19 RPI ranking, #15 non-conference RPI rank. Ranked in the Top 25 of both major voter polls basically all year with the most recent rankings inside the Top 18.

Acting like it's ridiculous they were considered for a host spot is more ridiculous than them being awarded one.

It’s pretty ridiculous that a team with 5 Q4 losses and only 7 Q1 wins is hosting. And they’re not even really good Q1 wins. 4 of the 7 were over #47 Troy & #54 SE Louisiana.

 

[patdog]

I continue to believe they will send Bama or Florida to Hattiesburg before they send us there. Maybe I’m wrong but I agree with your sentiment that they usually seem to geographically place 2’s and then geography matters less on the 3 line.

You may be right. They’re going to want a strong 2-seed in that regional.

 

[CaptainFalcon]

well, just a little update....D1 baseball did their Nerdcast this morning.....Kendall rogers, Aaron Fitt, and Mark Etheridge.....they have MSU as a 3 seed in Hattiesburg with Georgia Tech as a 2 seed, and Fresno State as the 4....

the Oxford regional has UM 1, Arizona 2, Miami 3, and Murray State 4.....as hot as Ole Miss was in the tourney, Arizone is not a team you want as your 2 seed right now....woof.....both of these regionals will be tough if it falls as they projected.

It never goes exactly like it’s projected. Placement of teams has a certain amount of randomness to it.

 

[She Mate Me]

It’s pretty ridiculous that a team with 5 Q4 losses and only 7 Q1 wins is hosting. And they’re not even really good Q1 wins. 4 of the 7 were over #47 Troy & #54 SE Louisiana.

You really gonna keep beating the drum that a 7-5 record in Q1 games is a negative?

Has Ole Miss risen above mediocre to the good category yet on the Pat scale since they ended up being basically a lock host??

 

[CaptainFalcon]

It’s pretty ridiculous that a team with 5 Q4 losses and only 7 Q1 wins is hosting. And they’re not even really good Q1 wins. 4 of the 7 were over #47 Troy & #54 SE Louisiana.

You are conveniently omitting a road series win at TCU who was a host contender that did not get the nod. Could have easily been the difference In why USM got picked and TCU didn’t.

 

[8dog]

My thought is the issue lies with RPI. And not in the normal sense where people just don’t like the calculation. But in the sense that power/talent has consolidated in the SEC the last few years and so the bulk of the league is tearing through their OOC slates which really elevates everyone rpi in the league.

 

[patdog]

You really gonna keep beating the drum that a 7-5 record in Q1 games is a negative?

Has Ole Miss risen above mediocre to the good category yet on the Pat scale since they ended up being basically a lock host??

Well yeah, it’s not good. At least not top 16 host good. Would we be discussing. USM hosting if their AD wasn’t on the committee?

 

[The Cooterpoot]

USM played 25 Q4 games and lost 5. Hell, we went 14-0 in Q4 games. Their schedule is laughable. Almost half their games were Q4 games.
We were 23-1 in Q3/Q4 games. They were 31-6. They won 7 Q1 games, we won 8. It's laughable they're even in the discussion for a host site. That schedule is so bad! Heck, SEC teams scored 10, 15, & 18 runs on them in 3 of the five games. I'll predict they get an easy draw with their AD there to avoid SEC teams. They don't want State or TN in their regional. They won't want to face an SEC team in the supers but they're probably screwed there. The 9th rated conference, who were behind the SoCon and CUSA even, got two bids. That's politics at their best. These ADs need to be taken out of it all.

 

[Perd Hapley]

We don't all know that. There are plenty of people who are fine with them hosting. Anybody who's not a perpetual grump will acknowledge they were clearly deserving of consideration for a host.

You play the hand you're dealt. 44-14 record. 7-5 in Q1 RPI games. #19 RPI ranking, #15 non-conference RPI rank. Ranked in the Top 25 of both major voter polls basically all year with the most recent rankings inside the Top 18.

Acting like it's ridiculous they were considered for a host spot is more ridiculous than them being awarded one.

There is simply no way you can compare USM’s overall body of work with Alabama, TCU, Georgia Tech, or maybe even Dallas Baptist and think that they deserve the host bid over all of them. And where they are ranked in the polls has zero to do with anything. 5 quad 4 losses ought to be disqualifying in and of itself. 12 of the 16 hosts have zero or one of those. 5 is ridiculous.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Softball is the same way. It's why OM got a higher seed than us after finishing three spots behind us and losing to us.

We were a 2 seed and OM was a 3 seed. Am I missing something?

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Not going to Hattiesburg

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

FSU it is

 

[ETK99]

We were a 2 seed and OM was a 3 seed. Am I missing something?

Incorrect. OM was a 2 but a higher 2 than us. Got an easy draw but they'll get beat by TT now anyway.

 

[ETK99]

The Sunbelt hosts are about to get hammered

 

[onewoof]

The Sunbelt hosts are about to get hammered

 

[Perd Hapley]

Incorrect. OM was a 2 but a higher 2 than us. Got an easy draw but they'll get beat by TT now anyway.

When I saw the bracket they were listed as the bottom team in their 2-3 matchup, so I presumed that meant they were the 3. We were listed as the top team in ours, and I knew we were a 2.

Guess that shows how much I follow softball.

But regardless, a minor seeding discrepancy for 2 teams in the same league, with neither hosting, pales in comparison to just blatantly slanting the host sites to throw out a few bones to very undeserving teams.

 

[She Mate Me]

There is simply no way you can compare USM’s overall body of work with Alabama, TCU, Georgia Tech, or maybe even Dallas Baptist and think that they deserve the host bid over all of them. And where they are ranked in the polls has zero to do with anything. 5 quad 4 losses ought to be disqualifying in and of itself. 12 of the 16 hosts have zero or one of those. 5 is ridiculous.

The Q4 record ain't great, but they played a lot of conference home series that were Q4 games. 4 of the 5 losses were in home series where they won the 3 game series. I would contend that Southern saw a lot better pitching than another school playing the same team midweek.

Look, I'm not a Southern fan, but I like them fine and I'm glad they got a host over Alabama or TCU etc for damn sure. Acting like it's a travesty is just silly IMO.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Thought it was interesting, saw statement, that nobody above 50 RPI had ever made the field.
Texas AM is #50 (Nolan)...did not get in.
#49 Arizona St, made it, #48 Notre Dame did not.

Others below 50 did not get in,.... but it is a legitimate point to consider.

 

[She Mate Me]

I continue to believe they will send Bama or Florida to Hattiesburg before they send us there. Maybe I’m wrong but I agree with your sentiment that they usually seem to geographically place 2’s and then geography matters less on the 3 line.

Nailed it...

 

[Perd Hapley]

My thought is the issue lies with RPI. And not in the normal sense where people just don’t like the calculation. But in the sense that power/talent has consolidated in the SEC the last few years and so the bulk of the league is tearing through their OOC slates which really elevates everyone rpi in the league.

Isn’t that how its supposed to work though? If the vast majority of talent is in one league, and teams in that one particular league are tearing through OOC slates, shouldn’t the RPI reflect that by showing that league has a lot of highly ranked teams?

 

[8dog]

Isn’t that how its supposed to work though? If the vast majority of talent is in one league, and teams in that one particular league are tearing through OOC slates, shouldn’t the RPI reflect that by showing that league has a lot of highly ranked teams?

Up to everyone as to how something should work. I’m just pointing out that so many sec teams are good enough now to tear through arguably average to below average OOC schedules that it’s skewing everything in sec teams favor even moreso than ever simply by being in the league.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Up to everyone as to how something should work. I’m just pointing out that so many sec teams are good enough now to tear through arguably average to below average OOC schedules that it’s skewing everything in sec teams favor even moreso than ever simply by being in the league.

Well, it didn’t help Mizzou, South Carolina, or Texas A&M very much. You still have to be able to win league games to get a high RPI, and you still need a fairly strong nonconference SOS. Those teams got no bump at all just for being in the league.

 

[8dog]

Well, it didn’t help Mizzou, South Carolina, or Texas A&M very much. You still have to be able to win league games to get a high RPI, and you still need a fairly strong nonconference SOS. Those teams got no bump at all just for being in the league.

Reasonable minds can differ but scar lost 4 OOC games and went 6-24 in conference. They finished 77th.

 

[She Mate Me]

Those teams got no bump at all just for being in the league.

Missouri's non-conference RPI rank is 165. Their overall RPI rank is 146.

Clearly their 30 games in the conference boosted them from 165 to 146, and we all know they lost 27 of those 30 games.

I'm going with the hypothesis that just being in the league did in fact bump Missouri's ranking by some factor.

And now I feel sure you're going to tell me I'm wrong.