How can you gather intel, if your

[mneilmont]

I think in the case of the economy with Obama, no one really faults him for his starting block. I think 7 years in things should be better than they are that he has some ownership of that, certainly the godawful debt he has accumulated is an issue.

Obama had no control over what he inherited in the economy, but his solutions just exacerbated the problem. The economy would have improved on it's own better than the aid he has put forth, IMO.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Yes, he tends to take a few liberties with honesty when he is offering his case. He tends to set up a straw man and then offer his case against his creation.

That's not why I said what I did.

 

[mneilmont]

That's not why I said what I did.

Understood. No problem.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

Yes, he tends to take a few liberties with honesty when he is offering his case. He tends to set up a straw man and then offer his case against his creation.

I don't do that at all, and I completely understood DD's response and why ... apparently you didn't.

 

[mneilmont]

I don't do that at all, and I completely understood DD's response and why ... apparently you didn't.

If "you don't do that" show me where I said anything about not accepting or utilizing garnered info? I clearly said people were not willing to share - not that we are unwilling to use gathered info. That, sir, is an incorrect restatement of what I said.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

If "you don't do that" show me where I said anything about not accepting or utilizing garnered info? I clearly said people were not willing to share - not that we are unwilling to use gathered info. That, sir, is an incorrect restatement of what I said.

That's not the part of your statement that I was referencing, and I never made any claim whatsoever that you said anything about not accepting or utilizing garnered info.

Yes, I am sure foreign intel is just bursting at the seams to share what they know with the US. US intel couldn't get a phone number from a ***** by waterboarding. Who can rely on our govt to keep secrets?

EERS said we can't only gather Intel without getting it from humans and then you said that we are ineffective in getting info from humans .... That was the whole crux of my point in the beginning.

Once again, you get all bent out of shape when you can't even follow along or understand the conversation.

I'm not doing this again. Go ahead, post your response, you always have to have the last word. I won't be responding further.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

That's not the part of your statement that I was referencing, and I never made any claim whatsoever that you said anything about not accepting or utilizing garnered info.



EERS said we can't only gather Intel without getting it from humans and then you said that we are ineffective in getting info from humans .... That was the whole crux of my point in the beginning.

Once again, you get all bent out of shape when you can't even follow along or understand the conversation.

I'm not doing this again. Go ahead, post your response, you always have to have the last word. I won't be responding further.

Why do you even waste your time with this moron? He's completely senile. You can always tell when his Depends need changed.

 

[mneilmont]

Yes, I am sure foreign intel is just bursting at the seams to share what they know with the US. US intel couldn't get a phone number from a ***** by waterboarding. Who can rely on our govt to keep secrets?

Here is my original quote. Should be absolutely no confusion. I said nothing about not using intel garnered. I clearly said that our problem is that outside sources will not share with us. And the reason they will not share is that we have difficulty concealing the source of the garnered info.

You have been consistent with your MO. Restate incorrectly and make false accusations to continue the chat. When you can no longer defend your position, you suggest you were talking about another area of the discussion. You make strawman issue and then want to debate it.

Exposed for the second time today.

 

[mneilmont]

You claim that personal intel hasn't worked, and EERS thinks that you can't do anything without it.

Here is the place that you misquoted me as saying "that personal intel hasn't worked".

That is your strawman. I actually said we have difficulty getting outside sources to share intel with us.

If you are not going to go back and comprehend what you are disagreeing with, may I suggest you not extend your false tirade as you have done here. You are wasting your valuable time and I am getting entertainment.