How low will gas go?

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As OPEC continues in turmoil while producing nations pump like it's 1959 and the market surplus grows because demand in China keeps slowing, oil is slipping toward < $30 a barrel and gasoline is at $1.11 a gallon wholesale as of this posting.

Will gas drop below the magic floor of $1.00 a gallon wholesale?
 
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As OPEC continues in turmoil while producing nations continue to pump like it's 1959 and the market surplus grows because demand in China keeps slowing, oil is slipping toward < $30 a barrel and gasoline is at $1.11 a gallon wholesale as of this posting.

Will gas drop below the magic floor of $1.00 a gallon wholesale?
Thanks Obama!
 

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I've heard some speculating in the media the past couple days which say crude could actually drop below $20/barrel, dropping retail gasoline possibly below $1.00/gallon some places. I'm not sure I'd bet on that......of course, judging how I did in pick-em, it's best I don't bet on anything.

But it will sure be interesting to see how much further this can go; at least until such time as the refiners raise wholesale costs after switching to summer formulations (which I believe begin rolling out to the market in time for April 1).
 

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I've heard some speculating in the media the past couple days which say crude could actually drop below $20/barrel, dropping retail gasoline possibly below $1.00/gallon some places. I'm not sure I'd bet on that......of course, judging how I did in pick-em, it's best I don't bet on anything.

But it will sure be interesting to see how much further this can go; at least until such time as the refiners raise wholesale costs after switching to summer formulations (which I believe begin rolling out to the market in time for April 1).
Wow. That even lower than what I was reading. $25/barrel was the lowest I had seen, so far...
 

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Now that's really thin ice there. You know he never wanted cheap oil.
Explain that stupid comment.

Dems are accused hating big oil in favor of society. Cheap gas hurts big oil benefiting society in terms of consumer cost. Your comment is counter to conventional thinking.
 

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Back when gas prices shot up to over $4 a gallon we would get all kinds of notices about price increases on materials (Concrete, Gypsum Board, Lumber, etc.) all due to that increase fuel cost.

Never seem to get a letter indicating a drop in those prices. ;)
 

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Back when gas prices shot up to over $4 a gallon we would get all kinds of notices about price increases on materials (Concrete, Gypsum Board, Lumber, etc.) all due to that increase fuel cost.

Never seem to get a letter indicating a drop in those prices. ;)
Hey, but fuel costs aren't part of inflation. For that matter, neither are food costs. That totally makes sense to me though. Who needs food or gasoline? Why would you base the cost of living adjustments on stuff that no one needs?
 

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Back when gas prices shot up to over $4 a gallon we would get all kinds of notices about price increases on materials (Concrete, Gypsum Board, Lumber, etc.) all due to that increase fuel cost.

Never seem to get a letter indicating a drop in those prices. ;)
Blame the greed of big business s their margins have exploded for the industries that don't have to stay competitive.

Only industry that raised their rates that later did away with the increase due to gas prices in my experience are garbage collectors.
 

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Back when gas prices shot up to over $4 a gallon we would get all kinds of notices about price increases on materials (Concrete, Gypsum Board, Lumber, etc.) all due to that increase fuel cost.

Never seem to get a letter indicating a drop in those prices. ;)
They just lowered the mileage reimbursement limit a couple of weeks ago. That will impact shipping costs, or it should.
 

COOL MAN

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They just lowered the mileage reimbursement limit a couple of weeks ago. That will impact shipping costs, or it should.

I was thinking later in 2015 (after my wife collected some mileage reimbursement) that the decline in fuel prices might result in a reduction in the IRS business mileage allowance (though insurance, maintenance, and repairs.....from what I can tell.....did not fall in tandem).

Regardless, coming off .575/mile in 2015, what's the new rate for calendar 2016 ???
 

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Hey, but fuel costs aren't part of inflation. For that matter, neither are food costs. That totally makes sense to me though. Who needs food or gasoline? Why would you base the cost of living adjustments on stuff that no one needs?
That is what really pisses me off about how inflation is calculated. Food and utilities are what affect people the most -- particularly poor and middle class people...
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I was thinking later in 2015 (after my wife collected some mileage reimbursement) that the decline in fuel prices might result in a reduction in the IRS business mileage allowance (though insurance, maintenance, and repairs.....from what I can tell.....did not fall in tandem).

Regardless, coming off .575/mile in 2015, what's the new rate for calendar 2016 ???
.54/mile I think
 

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Explain that stupid comment.

Dems are accused hating big oil in favor of society. Cheap gas hurts big oil benefiting society in terms of consumer cost. Your comment is counter to conventional thinking.
I never heard that from President Obama. I did hear it from his energy secretary. I think that the Energy Secretary's quote has been misattributed to the President frequently:

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/02/chus-europe-gas-price-quip-still-haunts-obama-073138
 

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I never heard that from President Obama. I did hear it from his energy secretary. I think that the Energy Secretary's quote has been misattributed to the President frequently:

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/02/chus-europe-gas-price-quip-still-haunts-obama-073138
The comment and thinking of some wanting higher prices means lower consumption and higher desire for alternative fuels. Yes, some liberals would like that environment but it is deeper thought. They want the price of crude to go down and then hack up energy taxes. Or even jack up energy taxes regardless if crude goes down. The conversation and theory is complex and making a simple comment as was made earlier is stupid.

Obama has wanted crude to go down at the same time pushing for alternative fuels. I don't believe he has proposed higher energy taxes. I'm sure there are those in the administration that has looked at options and they should. Knowing options is what we want out of our government.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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The comment and thinking of some wanting higher prices means lower consumption and higher desire for alternative fuels. Yes, some liberals would like that environment but it is deeper thought. They want the price of crude to go down and then hack up energy taxes. Or even jack up energy taxes regardless if crude goes down. The conversation and theory is complex and making a simple comment as was made earlier is stupid.

Obama has wanted crude to go down at the same time pushing for alternative fuels. I don't believe he has proposed higher energy taxes. I'm sure there are those in the administration that has looked at options and they should. Knowing options is what we want out of our government.
So if the price of crude falls way below the cost of renewable energy, how does that promote the switch to renewable energy?
 

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So if the price of crude falls way below the cost of renewable energy, how does that promote the switch to renewable energy?
It doesn't on its own which will piss off some liberals. You won't see Obama being piss as he is a better politician to show that type of emotion. Instead he will show it as a win for the consumers at the same time try and convince the public that it is best long term to explore alternatives. This has been his policy for years on the topic.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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It doesn't on its own which will piss off some liberals. You won't see Obama being piss as he is a better politician to show that type of emotion. Instead he will show it as a win for the consumers at the same time try and convince the public that it is best long term to explore alternatives. This has been his policy for years on the topic.
It is a win for the consumers. No question. I disagree on your notion that he merely stops at encouraging long term alternatives. He outright attacked Coal. The gas prices has very little to do with him IMO. This is OPEC being at war with each other. If what's happening within OPEC continues, I would fully expect targeted taxing or new "environmental restrictions" to makeup the gap from current state to past levels.
 

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It is a win for the consumers. No question. I disagree on your notion that he merely stops at encouraging long term alternatives. He outright attacked Coal. The gas prices has very little to do with him IMO. This is OPEC being at war with each other. If what's happening within OPEC continues, I would fully expect targeted taxing or new "environmental restrictions" to makeup the gap from current state to past levels.
I don't disagree with anything said.
 

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Hey, but fuel costs aren't part of inflation. For that matter, neither are food costs. That totally makes sense to me though. Who needs food or gasoline? Why would you base the cost of living adjustments on stuff that no one needs?

Fuel and food costs are both tracked as part of the CPI. They are not part of the core rate due to their volatility.
 

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Yes, it's always a great idea to follow extremists that can't spell basic words like "dismantle". You are now in the same category as the nutjobs trespassing and destroying federal property in Oregon.
Its almost like you didnt bother to read the thread.
 

WVUBRU

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Yes, it's always a great idea to follow extremists that can't spell basic words like "dismantle". You are now in the same category as the nutjobs trespassing and destroying federal property in Oregon.
THE has a lot in common with those nuts. However, that is not a new thing.
 

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Royal Bank of Scotland recently said oil could go down to $16 a barrel. I don't think it will go that low but I'm not expert.
 

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As OPEC continues in turmoil while producing nations pump like it's 1959 and the market surplus grows because demand in China keeps slowing, oil is slipping toward < $30 a barrel and gasoline is at $1.11 a gallon wholesale as of this posting.

Will gas drop below the magic floor of $1.00 a gallon wholesale?
Didn't RBS predict as low as $16/barrel?
 

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Royal Bank of Scotland recently said oil could go down to $16 a barrel. I don't think it will go that low but I'm not expert.

Didn't RBS predict as low as $16/barrel?