How many 5-7 teams got bowl bids
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I noticed that Nebraska got into one and Minnesota and San Jose ST (what a joke on that one). [laughing]
I'm sure the bowl San Jose got was real happy about that decision. 2-3,000 San Jose fans or 20-30,000 UK fans. That bowl just lost a lot of money because of the NCAA's decision. Not saying we deserved a bowl game but they should've let the bowls pick the teams they wanted.
Correct, 75 going into yesterday, and two 5-win teams won yesterday (Kansas State over WVU, and South Alabama upset App.St). That left three bowl slots that needed to be filled by 5-7 teams, with Nebraska, Minnesota and San Jose State being the three. Missouri would have gotten in instead of SJSU, if they were willing to accept a slot, which they declined. UK was also behind Illinois and Rice, I believe. At any rate, we were undeserving and I'm glad we didn't get it, just put the year behind us, if the extra practices weren't going to mean anything anyway.
APR Standings of all 5-7 teams this year:
(985) Nebraska 5-7
(976) Missouri 5-7
(975) San Jose State 5-7
(975) Minnesota 5-7
(973) Illinois 5-7
(973) Rice 5-7
(958) Texas 5-7
(954) UTEP 5-7
(951) Old Dominion 5-7
(950) ECU 5-7
(948) Buffalo 5-7
(945) Kentucky 5-7
(943) South Alabama 5-7
(933) FIU 5-7
(985) Nebraska 5-7
(976) Missouri 5-7
(975) San Jose State 5-7
(975) Minnesota 5-7
(973) Illinois 5-7
(973) Rice 5-7
(958) Texas 5-7
(954) UTEP 5-7
(951) Old Dominion 5-7
(950) ECU 5-7
(948) Buffalo 5-7
(945) Kentucky 5-7
(943) South Alabama 5-7
(933) FIU 5-7
This whole thing aggravates me. If the NCAA has to be politically correct with this thing, shouldn't it be consistent and seed all bowls, including the playoffs, based on APR? I guess it's much easier to be politically correct when it comes to handing out participation awards to 5 win bowl teams?
Had the bowls relegated to looking for 5 win teams, who were already in a bad spot, and already going to lose a ton of money, been allowed to choose who they wanted, UK probably would have selected.
Had the bowls relegated to looking for 5 win teams, who were already in a bad spot, and already going to lose a ton of money, been allowed to choose who they wanted, UK probably would have selected.
Do you think a team that will hire strippers for its athletes and recruits will also cheat to improve their academic standing?
Michael Dyer flunked out last year. He will be on this year's APR. Let's see if UL finds a creative way to overcome that.
Michael Dyer flunked out last year. He will be on this year's APR. Let's see if UL finds a creative way to overcome that.
UK wasn't taking 20K fans anywhere.
It would be a travesty if this team went to a bowl. It would lead to an 8 loss season.
There is no scenario where extra practices don't mean anything. Every extra practice our team can get at this point is a meaningful one. kinda tired of listening to people act like the extra practices are a waste. 15 more practices of Drew Barker getting starters reps is never a bad thing.
If you look at the numbers of extra practices the perennial bowl teams have over teams like us, Its pretty telling. 5th year seniors have upwards of 75 extra practices, that's almost an entire extra seasons worth. you can't tell me with a straight face that none of those teams benefitted from that.
UK lost to Auburn, Vandy and Louisville - and essentially tied EKU. It doesn't take a stellar opponent to beat Stoops Troops.
The perennial bowl teams aren't getting there because of 2 weeks of practice. They are getting there because of better coaches and players. The additional practice BS us borderline coach speak.
Why don't you go home and let us worry about it.
It is really sad when a team from your home state is so crooked you have to root against them.
And I mean that in all seriousness, a shame really.
I stand by my statement. You don't think Lamar Jackson is going to benefit from 15 extra practices getting the starters reps for Louisville? And we will have to deal with his *** the next 2-3 years at least. It sickens me that they get a virtual home game for a Bowl against a beatable SEC opponent that they can thump their chests about.
No I don't. Bowls are nothing more than exhibition games - other than the playoffs - that give the guys a chance to get a nice trip in. Anybody that uses bowl game wins as bragging rights really doesn't understand the process.
One player out of 85 flunking out doesn't hurt too much (changes a single year APR of 1000 to a 994). Not a fan of Michael Dyer, that's for sure.
I'm glad that you concede that your own team was not a stellar opponent.
The bottom line is that we lost to exactly two bad teams this year- UofL and Vandy. We beat five bad teams. Make no mistake, UK is a bad team also, but I would take my chances in a bowl which would have undoubtedly been against another bad team and probably one from the Sun Belt.
UK fans never complained about UK having a virtual home game the years they played in the Music City Bowl.
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Nope, and I would have been elated if we had that fortune this year, but Louisville is our rival and I want their road to a bowl win to be as difficult as humanly possible.
Nope, and I would have been elated if we had that fortune this year, but Louisville is our rival and I want their road to a bowl win to be as difficult as humanly possible.
LOL. Dude, you've been smoking seriously strong **** if you think "20 to 30,000 UK fans" would've travelled to watch this dysfunctional 5-7 cat team get their *** kicked in some crappy bottom tier bowl. Would you have made that trip?
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I would not have made that trip. I will not spend another dime of my money until we look like a fully functional program. But you are seriously underestimating the BBN if you don't think we would show up in droves for any bowl game. We don't make them very often and haven't since 2010. Just like now with all these fans saying they're not renewing next year. I call BS on that. We will still have 55-60k a game next year like we do every year.
So...20-30,000 UK fans would have traveled to Orlando to watch us play a 6-6 Georgia State team? I highly doubt. Maybe a few thousand, and those would have been mostly people who wanted to go to DisneyWorld along with a ball game. And I doubt San Jose gets 2-3,000 there. Maybe a few hundred. The attendance at this bowl will/should be atrocious.
Well, I guess that depends on how you define the word "droves." All I know is that "20 to 30,000" number you stated was a laughably preposterous overstatement. Hell, these bottom tier bowls struggle to even get 30K in total attendance into their stadium even after late local ticket giveaways, the notion that they're gonna get a travelling party that large from just one team coming off an ugly 5-7 mess of a season is just ludicrous.
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good catch. I got my 5-win Sun Belt teams mixed up from Saturday. Georgia State was the one who got win #6, by beating Georgia Southern, my apologies.
He said why don't you run home to your mommy, or at least without going back to read again I think that's what he meant.
Possibly. Nebraska and Texas would have been "slam dunks". Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri (which of course declined) and Kentucky would have probably all been considered for the third spot.
I believe the thought process was that the APR rule would have two main benefits: first, the schools that were chosen with 5-7 records would be able to "spin" the poor season with their fans as a positive by pointing to their success in the classroom and second, the use of the APR score in the selection process would increase the awareness of the metric among the fans of college football.
It's certainly been a big success from that second standpoint.
In my opinion, I'd like to see the requirement for bowl eligibility raised from a 6 wins to 7. In order to accomplish that, the number of bowl games would have to be reduced by about 6 total games. If any 6 win teams are needed to fill out the bowl games, they could use the APR score or some other metric to select the 6 win teams, like they have done this year for the 5 win teams.
The fallout from the way 5-7 bowl teams were given equal footing with 6-6 teams is that the Mountain West Conference ended up with two of their teams in the same bowl -- the Arizona Bowl. This is a new bowl without a major TV contract (on-line steaming only) and little national exposure. The MWC commissioner is pretty upset about it.
Mountain West Conference unhappy its teams are playing each other
Mountain West Conference unhappy its teams are playing each other
It was probably the poor TV coverage that hindered the MWC the most in their efforts to get another conference to trade teams. Could you imagine trying to explain to a team in your conference that, in the interest of "doing the Mountain West Conference a favor" you got bumped from a game shown nationally on ESPN for a game that is only going to be shown on whichever TV stations across the country decide to pick up the game?