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Not a mulligan. The headline ran only part of the quote, almost like when Trump left out "on many sides" when he quoted himself in Phoenix.

I understand what Riley meant. There is a new defensive staff and scheme. They have a new style QB to fit a new offensive style. Here's the full quote:

Riley said. "So, new defense, new quarterback. It feels like, in a way, starting over. But the beauty of it is we're not. We've been with many of these kids for two years. That's the fun part of being a coach, is building that trust, those relationships, the culture, the values that you want in a program."
 
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As a golfer I find that my mulligans are generally better than my first shots. I often joke about how great my "second golfer" is. I much prefer a coach who is willing to make changes, embrace those changes, and move forward in an attempt to better the program than one who year after year followed Einstein's definition of insanity.

Speaking of embracing change perhaps you should embrace change. Bo is never coming back.
 
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chicolby said:
Not a mulligan. The headline ran only part of the quote, almost like when Trump left out "on many sides" when he quoted himself in Phoenix.
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This guy is in your head isn't he? If you want to live in a world without hate, recommend you look in the mirror and start there. The world is what we make it.
 
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I guess to me, this is not news. We all knew it was going to be a reboot, even before the bowl game. I do think coach wasted a couple of years, but maybe it was smart and redshirting half the team will pay off big time for him this year. Regardless, it's still year 3 and he needs to go out and win games.
 
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I think the last two years were inevitable, based on the circumstances, for the most part.

Riley was in a no-win situation and he took the smart route and built the team up to his liking over the last few years rather than pull the baid-aid and implode things like Charlie Strong did.

I think it has paid off as of now. We shall see what the next few seasons hold.
 
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z28craz said:
As a golfer I find that my mulligans are generally better than my first shots. I often joke about how great my "second golfer" is. I much prefer a coach who is willing to make changes, embrace those changes, and move forward in an attempt to better the program than one who year after year followed Einstein's definition of insanity.

Speaking of embracing change perhaps you should embrace change. Bo is never coming back.
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You only used a mulligan because you totally screwed up the first one. Put that in perspective. Is that what happened? That is the part I cringe about when people talking of rebooting or mulligans. Something was really bad that made you need to do it. Not sure I want to believe that.
 
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You only used a mulligan because you totally screwed up the first one. Put that in perspective. Is that what happened? That is the part I cringe about when people talking of rebooting or mulligans. Something was really bad that made you need to do it. Not sure I want to believe that.
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Keep in mind, Riley's actual quote is that it feels like starting over, but the beauty is we aren't. The only one talking about a Mulligan is sipple, and then others who have posted in this thread including the OP.
 
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I've used a mulligan when I've hit a nice putt but it just didn't go in the hole. On a normal golf round, I'd be happy with that putt but in a tournament when you can buy mulligans, it's worth a mulligan to see if you can improve a little. It's not only used when you hit a ball OB.
 
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You only used a mulligan because you totally screwed up the first one. Put that in perspective. Is that what happened? That is the part I cringe about when people talking of rebooting or mulligans. Something was really bad that made you need to do it. Not sure I want to believe that.
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It's kind of like changing conferences, and then using that excuse for years as if it was an entirely different sport.
 
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Keep in mind, Riley's actual quote is that it feels like starting over, but the beauty is we aren't. The only one talking about a Mulligan is sipple, and then others who have posted in this thread including the OP.
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Sipple is going to cater to his buddy and his bloner followers. No idea why people ead his stuff. Absolutely zero credibility.
 
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HBK4life said:
Well, the last one got 7 years of blowouts, childish behavior and lackadaisical recruiting mulligans so....I think Riley is doing just fine. Improved recruiting and not embarrassing the university. Made it to your magical 9 win mark last year so why you bitching??
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It's kind of like changing conferences, and then using that excuse for years as if it was an entirely different sport.
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Ha...But don't you remember how fast NU was...because we had players from Texas...so the other Big Ten teams would not even be able to compete.
 
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timnsun said:
Keep in mind, Riley's actual quote is that it feels like starting over, but the beauty is we aren't. The only one talking about a Mulligan is sipple, and then others who have posted in this thread including the OP.
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Listen! If it feels like he is in a sense starting over, it is because he is. I wouldn't take is as a completely bad thing, but I would also say that is what it is. On offense they will now probably get a shot to call a game a lot closer to how they have in the past and or really want to. A new QB and some newer skill position guy make for a change. I do thing TA, Westy, Riley and some of those recently graduated did do a good job of bridging things from one staff to another.

On defense they are totally starting over. Pretty much your whole defensive staff is new, you are going to a different defensive scheme that you have not been recruiting to. One of your defensive assistants passed away shortly after you hired him.

Honestly Riley has to be feeling a little uncomfortable just with the newness of the season and not having some of his usual coaches that he trusted. Again, I don't know that it is a bad thing, we will just have to see how he handles it and how the staff and the team as a whole handle it.
 
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The ability to adapt and admit you don't know everything is one of the most important a coach can have. I think it's largely unquestionable that Riley has that ability. He had a roster set up for one style of play (mostly the qb) and brought in guys he trusted to coach. When he realized it didn't work, he made changes. I admire him for that ability as many coaches ride it out their way until they get fired because of their arrogance while Riley was able to look in the mirror and realize maybe his staff and his way was part of the problem and it wasn't everybody else's fault. We'll see how it goes but in my eyes he's shown that he'll change and unless we revert to a losing record I'd like to see where he can take us.
 
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I would be quite concerned if we were running the same offense with Tanner Lee under center as we ran when TA was under center. Maybe that's just me.
 
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I think it is fair to say that this season is like starting over....I think it is also safe to say that if this season is a complete cluster **** that we will be starting over again next year.
 
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Sounds like you are wishing for that.
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If I had wishes I would not waste them on football...
If they suck this year, yes I want a change...just like all of us would.
If they rock this year...I want things to stay and keep getting even better...just like all of us would.

There should be about 1000 likes for this post because it is how all of us Husker fans feel.
 
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JohnRossEwing said:
If I had wishes I would not waste them on football...
If they suck this year, yes I want a change...just like all of us would.
If they rock this year...I want things to stay and keep getting even better...just like all of us would.

There should be about 1000 likes for this post because it is how all of us Husker fans feel.
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Only if the change is a positive change, like when Callahan was let go, but not if the next coach is a Pelini level coach. Either way, Riley is safe for the next few years most likely.
 
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RedMyMind said:
Only if the change is a positive change, like when Callahan was let go, but not if the next coach is a Pelini level coach. Either way, Riley is safe for the next few years most likely.
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Sure, that is the wild card of course. When you think about the last 4 hires have been pretty underwhelming.
 
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I think Eichorst would be let go before Riley, should we suck this year. I don't see him getting the chance to hire another football coach here. But let's hope that doesn't happen.
 
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Yiu spend all of your time on this board predicting gloom and doom. One could ask if this was something you enjoyed, why would you spend all your time looking for all the negatives that might happen.
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
Yiu spend all of your time on this board predicting gloom and doom. One could ask if this was something you enjoyed, why would you spend all your time looking for all the negatives that might happen.
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I predict that they will win all their games, just like I do each year. Every Saturday I sit there and convince myself that they will win. I think we all do it.

Plus, sometimes a coach getting canned is not a negative. We are assuming that BD is an upgrade over MB, right? That is a positive.
 
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Sure, that is the wild card of course. When you think about the last 4 hires have been pretty underwhelming.
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With two of the poor hires mudding Tom's legacy.
It's best to stay the course until there is obvious reasons for a change.

Again, there was this talk at Washington until this last year when they broke things open. They took two steps back to go 10 steps forward.
 
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Harry Caray said:
I think Eichorst would be let go before Riley, should we suck this year. I don't see him getting the chance to hire another football coach here. But let's hope that doesn't happen.
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No Doubt! I do think that Coach Riley will need to have a decent season this year and there probably needs to be some noticeable improvements see and a certain amount of good will built up. There reason I see that as the case is because the 2018 schedule looks to be very tough. NU will have away games vs Michigan, Ohio St., Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Iowa. They also will have Colorado and Michigan State on the home slate as well.

They could be a better team in 18, but the record may not reflect that.
 
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No Doubt! I do think that Coach Riley will need to have a decent season this year and there probably needs to be some noticeable improvements see and a certain amount of good will built up. There reason I see that as the case is because the 2018 schedule looks to be very tough. NU will have away games vs Michigan, Ohio St., Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Iowa. They also will have Colorado and Michigan State on the home slate as well.

They could be a better team in 18, but the record may not reflect that.
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That's got me thinking about Jim Mora. Why is he still around at UCLA?
 
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Riley is safe this year no matter what. Being that this is a mulligan he will get a couple more years. Eichorst is the one on the hot seat should things turn bad.

As far as talking about replacing a guy who is performing far below Nebraska standards, I don't think who we might get should play a huge role in determining to keep the one who is the current guy (whoever that might be). If the current guy isn't cutting it, you don't just keep him because the next gal or guy might be worse.
 
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I am not sure if UCLA football is a super high pressure job. Maybe you have some more wiggle room there.
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I'm still surprised UCLA doesn't have a better football program. It's a great school in the nicest neighborhood of a major city with a ton of high school talent. Great weather, beautiful women. They play their home games in the Rose Bowl.

If schools like Oregon and Stanford can dominate the Pac-12, there's no excuse for UCLA.
 
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I'm still surprised UCLA doesn't have a better football program. It's a great school in the nicest neighborhood of a major city with a ton of high school talent. Great weather, beautiful women. They play their home games in the Rose Bowl.

If schools like Oregon and Stanford can dominate the Pac-12, there's no excuse for UCLA.
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I don't really get it either.
 
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chicolby said:
Not a mulligan. The headline ran only part of the quote, almost like when Trump left out "on many sides" when he quoted himself in Phoenix.

I understand what Riley meant. There is a new defensive staff and scheme. They have a new style QB to fit a new offensive style. Here's the full quote:

Riley said. "So, new defense, new quarterback. It feels like, in a way, starting over. But the beauty of it is we're not. We've been with many of these kids for two years. That's the fun part of being a coach, is building that trust, those relationships, the culture, the values that you want in a program."
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The defense is starting over. It will take awhile before it becomes second nature to the players.
 
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