How many players on our roster make the NBA?
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you cant be serious..the last three you named have a 0% chance at making it in the NBA Developmental League..Sidney has had an illustrious career thus far as well..only remote chance would be for Bost, and he is a mid 2nd rounder..</p>
Sidney certainly has the talent if he ever decides to apply himself and Bost might have a remote outside chance of getting on a roster but I would say the odds are against him. Augustus, RJ and Reik have no chance. The first 2 just don't have a well-rounded enough game and Reik is not athletic enough and his body couldn't hold up through an NBA season anyway.
still continue to mention John Reik's name in association with any sort of general athleticim at this point, is truly beyond me. He makes Big Feces look like Kareem Abdul-Jabar
and will make millions in the pros. Funny that this season and Coach Stansbury's career is also playing out like Kelly's last season and his coach.
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</div><div>As far as Kodi and Riek are concerned, it's definitely possible, but highly unlikely. Kodi, the chowderhead himeslef, said that he never expected to even be here for his senior year. I'd put the chances as:</div><div>
</div><div>Sidney: 80%</div><div>Moultrie: 50%</div><div>Bost: 40%</div><div>Johnson: 30% (great jumpshooters will always be in demand)</div><div>Augustus: 5%</div><div>Reik: 5%</div><div>
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</div><div>As far as Kodi and Riek are concerned, it's definitely possible, but highly unlikely. Kodi, the chowderhead himeslef, said that he never expected to even be here for his senior year. I'd put the chances as:</div><div>
</div><div>Sidney: 80%</div><div>Moultrie: 50%</div><div>Bost: 40%</div><div>Johnson: 30% (great jumpshooters will always be in demand)</div><div>Augustus: 5%</div><div>Reik: 5%</div><div>
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Sidney: Attitude and terrible defense. Not gonna cut it.saltslugs said:
Moultrie: Haven't seen him play
Bost: Have you seen the PG play in the NBA these days? Dee is FAR from that.
Johnson: He can't guard an obese 8th grader
Augustus: Slow, lazy, attitude sucks
Riek: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Europe for Dee and the RSS, Russia for Kodi, Far East for Riek
Riek play? Unless he finds a magic pill that turns him into a badass over night, the guy is not ever going to be playing in the NBA.
that these guys haven't been coached since high school. The biggest problem; our head coach is the worst disciplinarian of all time. Give RSS, Moultrie, Bost, and Ravern two or three years in the D-League or overseas and it will all change.<div>
</div><div>I'll put down $100 that one of those players you listed will be in the NBA within the next 7 or so years.</div>
</div><div>I'll put down $100 that one of those players you listed will be in the NBA within the next 7 or so years.</div>
Then he got tired. The RSS is also a great passer.Seshomoru said:
Moultrie is a beast on the boards and has the NBA size they all love.
apparently our fans are a lot like every player on our team - they all think they are NBA-bound.
Good grief.
Good grief.
Timmy Bowers, Brandon Vincent, Laurence Roberts, Mario Austin, Derrick Zimmerman, Winsome Frazier, Jarvis Varnado...<div>
</div><div>I'd trade anyone on our current team for any of the above players (in a heartbeat) and none of the above guys had any significant impact in the NBA (the high watermark being a year or two on the bench with almost no minutes played). If you are not DOMINATING college basketball, there's no place for you in the league. You have to have be an other-worldly shooter, distributor, defender, or rebounder to play in the league. If you don't have one or more of those skills, you simply will not make it. I haven't seen a league-worthy player on a State roster since Erick Dampier.</div><div>
</div><div>Sidney, Bost, Ravern are not even within a country mile of the league. It's a joke to even entertain the idea.</div><div>
</div><div>I'm not saying they won't get a shot. Everyone gets a shot, i.e. a summer league run or something. But none of them will play in the league.</div><div>
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</div><div>I'd trade anyone on our current team for any of the above players (in a heartbeat) and none of the above guys had any significant impact in the NBA (the high watermark being a year or two on the bench with almost no minutes played). If you are not DOMINATING college basketball, there's no place for you in the league. You have to have be an other-worldly shooter, distributor, defender, or rebounder to play in the league. If you don't have one or more of those skills, you simply will not make it. I haven't seen a league-worthy player on a State roster since Erick Dampier.</div><div>
</div><div>Sidney, Bost, Ravern are not even within a country mile of the league. It's a joke to even entertain the idea.</div><div>
</div><div>I'm not saying they won't get a shot. Everyone gets a shot, i.e. a summer league run or something. But none of them will play in the league.</div><div>
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apparently our fans don't realize that we have talent. <div>
</div><div>MSU roster contains three of the top 75prospects in the world. The rest of the west division has zero: http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard</div><div>
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</div><div>MSU roster contains three of the top 75prospects in the world. The rest of the west division has zero: http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard</div><div>
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I will bet my left testicle that no player on this team ever plays in a regular season NBA game. NBA execs are not going to pay players that don't play defense or with attitudes like Ravern, Kodi, and Renardo. Anyone that thinks these guys are NBA bound don't know **** about the NBA.
Pass that **** over here bro
Johnson, Sidney, and Bost are the only 3 that have any chance in the league, and all 3 of them are supreme longshots at this point. Like 10% at BEST.
Johnson, Sidney, and Bost are the only 3 that have any chance in the league, and all 3 of them are supreme longshots at this point. Like 10% at BEST.
if by making it you mean being on the roster or being a reserve then I'd say sure, they've got a shot (albeit a long one). But if you mean being a part of an NBA team's 8-10 man rotation and getting significant playing time. I'd wager just about anything that those three won't do that.<div>
</div><div>Here's a list of the past SEC player of the year award winners:</div><div>
</div><div>John Wall, Marcus Thornton, Shan Foster, Chris Lofton, Derrick Byars, Glen Davis, Brandon Bass, Lawrence Roberts, Keith Bogans, Erwin Dudley, Tayshaun Prince & Stromile Swift</div><div>
</div><div>Those are the SEC players of the year (both AP & Coaches) and needless to say, there isn't a ton of NBA talent in that list.</div><div>
</div><div>Prince is the only sustained starter.</div><div>
</div><div>Bass, Davis, Swift & Bogans played reserve roles.</div><div>
</div><div>Wall could be a star but it's too early to tell really. You never know what could happen (see: Shaun Livingston).</div><div>
</div><div>Out of 12 players of the year: four are/were back-ups, one is a starter, and one might end up being good.</div><div>
</div><div>You would have to be a complete nut job to think that anyone on our team is even in the same class with those 12 players and half of them didn't make the NBA.</div>
</div><div>Here's a list of the past SEC player of the year award winners:</div><div>
</div><div>John Wall, Marcus Thornton, Shan Foster, Chris Lofton, Derrick Byars, Glen Davis, Brandon Bass, Lawrence Roberts, Keith Bogans, Erwin Dudley, Tayshaun Prince & Stromile Swift</div><div>
</div><div>Those are the SEC players of the year (both AP & Coaches) and needless to say, there isn't a ton of NBA talent in that list.</div><div>
</div><div>Prince is the only sustained starter.</div><div>
</div><div>Bass, Davis, Swift & Bogans played reserve roles.</div><div>
</div><div>Wall could be a star but it's too early to tell really. You never know what could happen (see: Shaun Livingston).</div><div>
</div><div>Out of 12 players of the year: four are/were back-ups, one is a starter, and one might end up being good.</div><div>
</div><div>You would have to be a complete nut job to think that anyone on our team is even in the same class with those 12 players and half of them didn't make the NBA.</div>
...no one on our team has the raw ability to get the league. The attitude problems are just icing on their turkish league cake.<div>
</div><div>There are only about 270 players that get significant rotation minutes in the league each year (9 man rotation x 30 teams). If you think anyone on State's team is one of the top 270 players in the world, you are out of your mind or know nothing about professional basketball.</div><div>
</div><div>Saying any of those guys could make the NBA is like saying the low handicap at your local muni could make the PGA tour. Give me a 17ing break.</div>
</div><div>There are only about 270 players that get significant rotation minutes in the league each year (9 man rotation x 30 teams). If you think anyone on State's team is one of the top 270 players in the world, you are out of your mind or know nothing about professional basketball.</div><div>
</div><div>Saying any of those guys could make the NBA is like saying the low handicap at your local muni could make the PGA tour. Give me a 17ing break.</div>
if you don't think that Sidney does not have the raw ability to make the NBA. Your 270 players argument is also stupid. Obviously, we hope that 20-year-olds will improve from their current state. And, once again, the orginal argument was for a player to make the NBA (as in join a team) not crack the rotation.
...name an NBA contributor (someone who actually sees the court every game) who wasn't a very good college player (given that they attended a college).<div>
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...college and pro basketball to know that every year stupid yokels who only follow their own college team say stupid junk like, "he's going to play in the NBA" about a marginally talented player who won't sniff an NBA arena. You probably watch 10 NBA games a year and dismiss the rest saying things like "they don't play any defense." Get out of the 17ing kiddie pool.<div>
</div><div>If you think Sidney is good enough to play in the NBA then shouldn't he be beating the 17 out of kids who will never play in the league?</div><div>
</div><div>There are "kids" Sidney's age playing in the league RIGHT NOW! If he was good enough, he'd be there. He's not. Get over it.</div><div>
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</div><div>If you think Sidney is good enough to play in the NBA then shouldn't he be beating the 17 out of kids who will never play in the league?</div><div>
</div><div>There are "kids" Sidney's age playing in the league RIGHT NOW! If he was good enough, he'd be there. He's not. Get over it.</div><div>
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and know that talent eventually comes through. There is very, VERY little that separates a player like Zach Randolph and Renardo Sidney. Take a look at Zach's college stats:<div>
</div><div>http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/michigan-state/zach-randolph</div><div>
</div><div>The knocks on Renardo is that he needs to lose weight and he's a jackass. These are relatively easy problems to deal with (much easier than improving athletic ability or gaining muscle). He already has the skills and size to be a great player.</div><div>
</div><div>I'm not saying that anyone will make the NBA, but I do think that it is likely that Renardo is on a roster at some point. I will also say there is an above 50% chance that at least one more player on MSU's roster will also eventually join an NBA team.</div>
</div><div>http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/michigan-state/zach-randolph</div><div>
</div><div>The knocks on Renardo is that he needs to lose weight and he's a jackass. These are relatively easy problems to deal with (much easier than improving athletic ability or gaining muscle). He already has the skills and size to be a great player.</div><div>
</div><div>I'm not saying that anyone will make the NBA, but I do think that it is likely that Renardo is on a roster at some point. I will also say there is an above 50% chance that at least one more player on MSU's roster will also eventually join an NBA team.</div>
...Sidney is more likely to end up like Dajuan Wagner than he is like Zach Randolph. Odds are heavily stacked against any player making it to the NBA, especially one who can't stay on the court because he fights his teammates and can't get in shape with more than a season to prepare.
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Riek, at present time, has no chance of making a roster. Campbell has been in the DLeague for half a decade now and putting up numbers that are WAY better than anything he ever came close to doing at State, and he has yet to get past a training camp. And Campbell at MSU is WAY better than Riek, at least so far. That pains me to say, since i have always held Campbell up as being the worst rotation big man of Stans' tenure and here i am actually saying he isnt totally Fing terrible for once.
Augusts doesnt play D and does absolutely nothing to seperate himself from about 200 other forwards. He isnt a great outside shooter, he isnt a great point-forward that can initiate a half court set when the fast break he starts doenst materialize, he isnt a good defender, he isnt a prolific rebounder, he isnt a great scorer. Really, what in his game would seperate him from hundreds of others?
Johnson is not a great jump shooter. He is a streaky one...which means he is an inconsistent one. Those arent always in high demand in the NBA, especially ones that have no interest in playing any defense at all or taking contact on either end of the court.
Bost has a 40% chance of making an NBA roster? Lets try 10%. He is quick...that is all he has going for himself versus hundreds of combo guards that will be fighting for the same spot on a roster. He doesnt have a great jumpshot, his ability to get to the lane and finish is good but its by no means elite when compared to a disgustingly high number of other available guards, his defense is decent when he wants it to be but nothing special, and his decision making is not a strong point.
Yep, that just screams 40% chance of making the roster of one of the best teams in the world.
Sidney and Moultrie i will agree with only because there is potential with Sidney and what i have read on Moultrie shows he has skills and potential. I would say 60% for Sidney and 50% for Moultrie.
Did you even read the ]<font size="5">11 Ravern Johnson (Mississippi State)</font>[/i]</span></address><address><span style="FONT-STYLE: normal"><font size="5">Ravern has emerged as one of the NCAA’s great scorers this season, and his size and shooting help his case in the NBA. He struggles as a defender at this point, but the payoff from his game is on offense. Should be a second rounder who makes a team because of his physicality and scoring mentality.
</font><font size="3">What the F?!?! This was apparently just written too. He has emerged as one of the NCAA's great scorers? Really? He started off hot, but the month of December was pretty ****** for him.
He is 22 for 74 from deep since December. That is a scorching 29.7% from deep.
He is 48 for 136 overall...which is a blistering 35% overall from the field.
So the 1 thing this guy is known for, shooting, he is doing terribly at. Awful. He has no other redeemable qualities to an NBA team. He cant defend, he cant lead, he cant rebound. He is a scorer. That is his ability. And he is scoring at an inefficient 35% overall and 29% from deep.
And this writeup claims he will be sought after for his physicality?!?! Ravern??? Do they mean athleticism? Hope so, because he hates to mix it up and get dirty. If he were a physical player he would actually get down and defend or rebound.</font></span></address>