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<blockquote data-quote="westsiderSJHS77" data-source="post: 132388454" data-attributes="member: 1864694">I do remember the list Allen posted that proved you wrong.&nbsp; Again.&nbsp; I am not the one making the claim that Brown ran off a ton of returning star players.&nbsp; He was able to keep most of the players that signed, but that was about it.First off, unless you have a solid core of skill players and experienced line returning, then in essence Brown started from scratch.&nbsp; No one is going to come in (pre portal) and build a winning team in 2-3 years.&nbsp; There has to be talent in place, like TCU had last year.&nbsp; Second, with the obvious lack of contact allowed by Shane Lyons with the NIL group, the recruiting was suppressed.&nbsp; Now with a new AD, look at the players that Brown is retaining and getting in comparison to the first couple of NIL seasons.&nbsp; Side note: look at Huggins team he has stacked up.&nbsp; Given the other schools coming in and snatching up players (Miami for example), and not getting a seasoned QB and skill players to build around, what can we realistically expect.&nbsp; There you are, my answer, now where’s your list.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="westsiderSJHS77, post: 132388454, member: 1864694"] I do remember the list Allen posted that proved you wrong. Again. I am not the one making the claim that Brown ran off a ton of returning star players. He was able to keep most of the players that signed, but that was about it. First off, unless you have a solid core of skill players and experienced line returning, then in essence Brown started from scratch. No one is going to come in (pre portal) and build a winning team in 2-3 years. There has to be talent in place, like TCU had last year. Second, with the obvious lack of contact allowed by Shane Lyons with the NIL group, the recruiting was suppressed. Now with a new AD, look at the players that Brown is retaining and getting in comparison to the first couple of NIL seasons. Side note: look at Huggins team he has stacked up. Given the other schools coming in and snatching up players (Miami for example), and not getting a seasoned QB and skill players to build around, what can we realistically expect. There you are, my answer, now where’s your list. [/QUOTE]

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