how the hell did OM get more first place votes than LSU?
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any votes period...regardless of ole miss. they have a completely rebuilt oline that sucked last yr. a qb that is, well lets say inconsistent. no 'big league" rb...the starter will prob be ridley who nobody thinks is in the league with bama's first 4 rb's, and lastly miles is still headcoach. lsu has many more questions to answer than ark, or msu, or auburn IMO. i agree that bama should be the concensus #1 in the west pick but after that, IMO no way you could vote for lsu as #2.
everybody focuses on the miles cluster17 at the end of the ole miss game. what many forget is that ole miss physically kicked their asses all over the field for 58 minutes. top 5 recruiting classes or not, this is not a very good lsu team.
they will be 8-4 at best and miles will be gone by dec 1.
everybody focuses on the miles cluster17 at the end of the ole miss game. what many forget is that ole miss physically kicked their asses all over the field for 58 minutes. top 5 recruiting classes or not, this is not a very good lsu team.
they will be 8-4 at best and miles will be gone by dec 1.
I said it on Nafoom, and I'll say it here. It's my outlandish prediction, but I'm calling LSU going 2-6 and finishing 6th in the West.
If I'm completely off, I'll say I was just messing around. If I'm right, I'm going to gloat.
Seriously, I feel like LSU could be the surprise bad team in the league. Sure they were 9-3 (5-3) last year, but I think they were the smoke and mirrors team of the SEC last year. They outscored their opponents 24.8-16.2 last year, but they were outgained 327.6-304.5 last year. It's hard to go 9-3 when you give up more yards than you gained. They were 12th in the SEC in total offense and 10th in scoring. They made up for that by being 6th in total defense and 3rd in scoring defense. Their defense carried the team last year, but their defense in terms of what it gave up was middle of the road in the SEC. It reminds me of a slightly better and more successful version of MSU's 2007 season.
As you say, they have Ridley as their tailback. Jefferson is a QB that holds the ball too long and runs himself into sacks. They lost almost all of their top receiving threats and a lot of their defense.
Before you start, I know we lost a lot too, but I feel like LSU could be in for one of those seasons where it snowballs on them. Just a hunch. They should've been a 7-5 team last year. They were 5-1 in games decided by 8 or less last year. Just a hunch, but I'm predicting they are in for a long year and it'll be Miles's last.
If I'm completely off, I'll say I was just messing around. If I'm right, I'm going to gloat.
Seriously, I feel like LSU could be the surprise bad team in the league. Sure they were 9-3 (5-3) last year, but I think they were the smoke and mirrors team of the SEC last year. They outscored their opponents 24.8-16.2 last year, but they were outgained 327.6-304.5 last year. It's hard to go 9-3 when you give up more yards than you gained. They were 12th in the SEC in total offense and 10th in scoring. They made up for that by being 6th in total defense and 3rd in scoring defense. Their defense carried the team last year, but their defense in terms of what it gave up was middle of the road in the SEC. It reminds me of a slightly better and more successful version of MSU's 2007 season.
As you say, they have Ridley as their tailback. Jefferson is a QB that holds the ball too long and runs himself into sacks. They lost almost all of their top receiving threats and a lot of their defense.
Before you start, I know we lost a lot too, but I feel like LSU could be in for one of those seasons where it snowballs on them. Just a hunch. They should've been a 7-5 team last year. They were 5-1 in games decided by 8 or less last year. Just a hunch, but I'm predicting they are in for a long year and it'll be Miles's last.
I do think they'll flirt with 3-5.
They should win 2 out of MSU, UT, and Ole Miss at home. They should beat Vandy on the road. The other 4 games (Bama, @Florida, @Arkansas, @Auburn) are all going to be tough. Maybe they steal one, but I could easily see the Hatter losing all 4.
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I think they had a charmed season last year, so I say they are due for some reversal of fortune. Of course they are LSU, and they tend to bring the voodoo with them every year. They did win a national title with 2 losses of course.
They should win 2 out of MSU, UT, and Ole Miss at home. They should beat Vandy on the road. The other 4 games (Bama, @Florida, @Arkansas, @Auburn) are all going to be tough. Maybe they steal one, but I could easily see the Hatter losing all 4.
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I think they had a charmed season last year, so I say they are due for some reversal of fortune. Of course they are LSU, and they tend to bring the voodoo with them every year. They did win a national title with 2 losses of course.
RebelBruiser said:
They lost their top 3 RB's to injury...that will hamper any offense...they get Murphy back who was really good before his injury
Tolliver, Randle, and Shepard are going to be hell for secondarys to deal with
They lost some defense, but they do have the best CB tandem and best MLB in the SEC. And they have some redshirts coming on that can play. Mingo is one for sure.
Should have been a 7-5 team last year? They also should have beaten Mississippi regardless of yardage numbers, and if they get the pick vs Bama with 6 minutes left, momentum could have swung that game as well.
Miles beats Saban in BR this year. Remember I said it
They won a lot more close ones than they lost.
LSU has a good team with some talent. They also have Les Miles though. I don't see them doing better than 4-4 this fall. 2-6 is probably a stretch, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for the mad hatter. The only thing that'll save them is that LSU is the luckiest school in the country period, hands down, so I'm sure they'll win more than they should.
And we would've beaten LSU 8 or 9 times out of 10 last year. They just didn't match up well with us at all. We did everything we could to give that game away and still won. MSU probably beats LSU 6 or 7 times out of 10 last year too.
LSU has a good team with some talent. They also have Les Miles though. I don't see them doing better than 4-4 this fall. 2-6 is probably a stretch, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for the mad hatter. The only thing that'll save them is that LSU is the luckiest school in the country period, hands down, so I'm sure they'll win more than they should.
And we would've beaten LSU 8 or 9 times out of 10 last year. They just didn't match up well with us at all. We did everything we could to give that game away and still won. MSU probably beats LSU 6 or 7 times out of 10 last year too.
I will never forget the "deer in the headlights" look he had on his face that first season in the UT game. Luckily for him, Saban left it on cruise control.
The only prediction that I'll make about lsux is that Miles won't be there next year. I questioned that hire when they made it, and he's done nothing to change my mind.
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The haven`t been out of the top ten have they ? Amazing how you can put that poor a football team together with that much talent. Something don`t add up.
RANK SCHOOL 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 Total AVG
1 USC 3.96 4.22 3.89 3.89 4.20 20.16 4.032
2 Florida 3.89 3.89 3.82 3.94 3.89 19.43 3.886
3 Texas 3.60 3.79 3.55 3.85 3.92 18.71 3.742
4 LSU 3.64 3.88 3.58 3.79 3.59 18.48 3.696
5 Ohio State 3.60 3.80 3.79 3.76 3.39 18.34 3.668
6 Georgia 3.64 3.48 3.67 3.83 3.42 18.04 3.608
7 Alabama 3.61 3.28 3.72 3.81 3.62 18.04 3.608
8 Notre Dame 3.46 3.72 3.96 3.44 3.39 17.97 3.594
9 Oklahoma 3.54 3.38 3.81 3.43 3.55 17.71 3.542
10 Michigan 3.63 3.40 3.67 3.59 3.19 17.48 3.496
11 Florida State 3.68 3.20 3.33 3.62 3.50 17.33 3.466
12 UCLA 3.23 3.27 3.52 3.33 3.61 16.96 3.392
13 Clemson 3.40 3.22 3.42 3.50 3.35 16.89 3.378
14 Tennessee 3.09 3.63 3.06 3.53 3.44 16.75 3.350
15 Auburn 3.52 3.37 3.03 3.21 3.50 16.63 3.326
16 Miami-FL 3.36 3.21 3.33 3.60 3.07 16.57 3.314
17 Penn State 3.63 3.14 3.00 2.96 3.55 16.28 3.256
18 South Carolina 3.08 3.42 3.18 3.34 3.04 16.06 3.212
19 Nebraska 3.27 3.33 2.96 3.25 3.24 16.05 3.210
20 California 3.30 3.00 3.05 3.11 3.58 16.04 3.208
21 North Carolina 2.93 3.00 3.16 3.34 3.14 15.57 3.114
22 Texas A&M 2.96 2.89 3.17 3.14 3.35 15.51 3.102
23 Oregon 2.67 3.24 3.25 2.92 3.39 15.47 3.094
24 Ole Miss 3.17 3.09 2.71 3.11 3.28 15.36 3.072
25 Pittsburgh 3.08 3.04 3.16 2.90 3.13 15.31 3.062
26 Oklahoma State 3.03 3.04 3.04 3.00 3.19 15.30 3.060
27 Virginia Tech 3.00 2.73 3.10 3.09 3.29 15.21 3.042
28 Maryland 3.00 2.85 3.11 3.08 3.10 15.14 3.028
29 Arizona 3.28 2.72 3.00 2.96 3.09 15.05 3.010
30 Arkansas 2.96 2.93 2.88 3.30 2.96 15.03 3.006
31 Arizona State 3.04 2.63 3.15 3.10 3.04 14.96 2.992
32 Georgia Tech 2.69 3.30 2.64 2.90 3.17 14.70 2.940
33 Michigan State 2.84 2.70 2.71 3.30 3.10 14.65 2.930
34 Illinois 2.89 3.00 3.00 3.10 2.65 14.64 2.928
35 Missouri 2.63 2.89 3.00 2.80 3.30 14.62 2.924
36 Texas Tech 2.88 2.73 3.00 3.00 3.00 14.61 2.922
37 Washington 2.82 2.81 2.92 2.94 3.10 14.59 2.918
38 West Virginia 2.63 2.96 2.63 3.13 3.24 14.59 2.918
39 Wisconsin 2.70 3.06 2.83 3.00 2.88 14.47 2.894
40 Kansas 2.72 2.57 3.10 3.08 2.89 14.36 2.872
41 Stanford 2.44 2.63 2.71 3.27 3.13 14.18 2.836
42 Colorado 2.61 2.68 3.24 2.84 2.71 14.08 2.816
43 Miss State 2.67 2.62 2.56 3.15 2.92 13.92 2.784
44 Boston College 2.85 2.83 2.83 2.47 2.86 13.84 2.768
45 Virginia 2.67 3.04 2.50 2.84 2.78 13.83 2.766
46 Minnesota 2.33 2.46 3.07 3.05 2.92 13.83 2.766
47 NC State 2.45 2.64 2.88 2.78 3.05 13.80 2.760
48 Rutgers 2.52 2.83 2.65 3.00 2.75 13.75 2.750
49 Louisville 2.92 3.06 2.59 2.31 2.81 13.69 2.738
50 Iowa 2.70 2.95 2.54 2.47 3.00 13.66 2.732
51 TCU 2.56 2.54 2.40 3.00 3.11 13.61 2.722
52 Oregon State 2.60 2.51 2.72 2.63 3.12 13.58 2.716
53 Kansas State 2.52 2.67 2.94 2.48 2.94 13.55 2.710
54 South Florida 2.36 2.48 2.46 3.00 2.89 13.19 2.638
55 Utah 2.17 2.32 2.73 2.84 3.09 13.15 2.630
56 Southern Miss 2.29 2.16 2.78 2.95 2.88 13.06 2.612
57 Baylor 2.34 2.34 2.45 2.71 3.09 12.93 2.586
58 Northwestern 2.24 2.74 2.30 2.67 2.94 12.89 2.578
59 Kentucky 2.53 2.31 2.50 2.69 2.77 12.80 2.560
60 BYU 2.12 2.46 2.52 2.86 2.78 12.74 2.548
61 Purdue 2.38 2.68 2.48 2.53 2.63 12.70 2.540
62 Iowa State 2.50 2.44 2.33 2.52 2.71 12.50 2.500
63 Vandy 2.27 2.50 2.19 2.71 2.79 12.46 2.492
64 Wake Forest 2.40 2.30 2.47 2.48 2.74 12.39 2.478
65 UCF 2.29 2.31 2.61 2.42 2.74 12.37 2.474
66 Washington State 2.57 2.44 2.23 2.55 2.56 12.35 2.470
67 Syracuse 2.43 2.56 2.54 2.29 2.38 12.20 2.440
68 Fresno State 2.35 2.27 2.41 2.29 2.81 12.13 2.426
69 Duke 2.38 2.19 2.41 2.63 2.50 12.11 2.422
70 Cincinnati 2.44 2.26 2.25 2.48 2.57 12.00 2.400
71 Boise State 2.17 2.24 2.26 2.52 2.80 11.99 2.398
72 Indiana 2.25 2.15 2.26 2.72 2.44 11.82 2.364
73 UAB 2.54 2.04 2.08 2.57 2.48 11.71 2.342
74 Houston 2.04 2.14 2.16 2.52 2.81 11.67 2.334
75 Memphis 2.12 2.22 2.29 2.48 2.46 11.57 2.314
76 Tulsa 2.06 1.87 2.30 2.64 2.68 11.55 2.310
77 Hawaii 2.00 2.42 2.30 2.39 2.39 11.50 2.300
78 San Diego St 2.28 2.27 2.19 2.10 2.63 11.47 2.294
79 LA Tech 2.11 2.27 2.19 2.35 2.50 11.42 2.284
80 SMU 2.13 2.17 2.14 2.35 2.62 11.41 2.282
81 Marshall 2.13 2.15 2.38 2.29 2.37 11.32 2.264
82 East Carolina 2.15 2.15 2.14 2.32 2.50 11.26 2.252
83 Troy 2.12 2.22 2.24 2.35 2.30 11.23 2.246
84 Toledo 1.95 2.32 2.13 2.15 2.56 11.11 2.222
85 UNLV 2.15 2.32 2.00 2.36 2.26 11.09 2.218
86 Colorado State 2.13 1.96 2.16 2.25 2.56 11.06 2.212
87 Akron 2.17 2.19 2.18 2.33 2.17 11.04 2.208
88 Conneticut 1.96 2.24 2.14 2.24 2.45 11.03 2.206
89 North Texas 2.12 2.06 2.30 2.15 2.33 10.96 2.192
90 UTEP 2.10 2.26 2.12 2.14 2.31 10.93 2.186
91 Wyoming 2.05 2.29 2.14 2.17 2.26 10.91 2.182
92 Rice 2.06 2.13 2.06 2.13 2.50 10.88 2.176
93 New Mexico 2.04 2.00 2.18 2.21 2.41 10.84 2.168
94 Mid Tenn State 2.00 2.00 2.29 2.13 2.42 10.84 2.168
95 Kent State 2.00 2.08 2.18 2.32 2.25 10.83 2.166
96 Miami-OH 2.05 2.17 2.06 2.12 2.22 10.62 2.124
97 Idaho 2.05 2.05 2.10 2.10 2.32 10.62 2.124
98 Nevada 1.96 2.00 2.14 2.19 2.32 10.61 2.122
99 Ball State 2.13 2.00 2.10 2.13 2.19 10.55 2.110
100 San Jose St 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.11 2.24 10.50 2.100
101 Western Michigan 2.00 2.04 2.12 2.08 2.25 10.49 2.098
102 LA Monroe 2.13 2.00 2.14 2.04 2.13 10.44 2.088
103 Northern Illinois 2.06 2.00 2.00 2.04 2.32 10.42 2.084
104 Temple 1.89 2.13 2.08 2.04 2.28 10.42 2.084
105 Arkansas St 2.05 2.04 2.04 2.05 2.23 10.41 2.082
106 New Mexico State 1.76 2.10 2.00 2.14 2.39 10.39 2.078
107 Tulane 2.00 1.92 2.00 2.32 2.13 10.37 2.074
108 Central Michigan 2.00 1.94 2.05 2.23 2.15 10.37 2.074
109 Bowling Green 1.96 2.10 2.00 2.09 2.20 10.35 2.070
110 Utah State 2.04 2.00 2.10 2.05 2.14 10.33 2.066
111 Ohio 1.95 1.91 2.20 2.19 2.06 10.31 2.062
112 Eastern Michigan 2.00 2.04 2.04 2.14 2.08 10.30 2.060
113 Buffalo 2.13 1.90 2.00 2.09 2.16 10.28 2.056
114 LA Lafayette 2.05 2.06 2.00 2.06 2.04 10.21 2.042
115 Air Force 1.65 1.73 1.93 1.90 2.06 9.27 1.854
116 Army 1.05 1.65 2.00 1.85 1.58 8.13 1.626
117 Navy 1.18 1.33 1.75 1.14 2.25 7.65 1.530
118 Illinois State 1.33 1.00 0.94 0.75 0.80 4.82 0.964
119 Chattanooga 0.67 0.44 0.00 0.83 0.86 2.80 0.560
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1 USC 3.96 4.22 3.89 3.89 4.20 20.16 4.032
2 Florida 3.89 3.89 3.82 3.94 3.89 19.43 3.886
3 Texas 3.60 3.79 3.55 3.85 3.92 18.71 3.742
4 LSU 3.64 3.88 3.58 3.79 3.59 18.48 3.696
5 Ohio State 3.60 3.80 3.79 3.76 3.39 18.34 3.668
6 Georgia 3.64 3.48 3.67 3.83 3.42 18.04 3.608
7 Alabama 3.61 3.28 3.72 3.81 3.62 18.04 3.608
8 Notre Dame 3.46 3.72 3.96 3.44 3.39 17.97 3.594
9 Oklahoma 3.54 3.38 3.81 3.43 3.55 17.71 3.542
10 Michigan 3.63 3.40 3.67 3.59 3.19 17.48 3.496
11 Florida State 3.68 3.20 3.33 3.62 3.50 17.33 3.466
12 UCLA 3.23 3.27 3.52 3.33 3.61 16.96 3.392
13 Clemson 3.40 3.22 3.42 3.50 3.35 16.89 3.378
14 Tennessee 3.09 3.63 3.06 3.53 3.44 16.75 3.350
15 Auburn 3.52 3.37 3.03 3.21 3.50 16.63 3.326
16 Miami-FL 3.36 3.21 3.33 3.60 3.07 16.57 3.314
17 Penn State 3.63 3.14 3.00 2.96 3.55 16.28 3.256
18 South Carolina 3.08 3.42 3.18 3.34 3.04 16.06 3.212
19 Nebraska 3.27 3.33 2.96 3.25 3.24 16.05 3.210
20 California 3.30 3.00 3.05 3.11 3.58 16.04 3.208
21 North Carolina 2.93 3.00 3.16 3.34 3.14 15.57 3.114
22 Texas A&M 2.96 2.89 3.17 3.14 3.35 15.51 3.102
23 Oregon 2.67 3.24 3.25 2.92 3.39 15.47 3.094
24 Ole Miss 3.17 3.09 2.71 3.11 3.28 15.36 3.072
25 Pittsburgh 3.08 3.04 3.16 2.90 3.13 15.31 3.062
26 Oklahoma State 3.03 3.04 3.04 3.00 3.19 15.30 3.060
27 Virginia Tech 3.00 2.73 3.10 3.09 3.29 15.21 3.042
28 Maryland 3.00 2.85 3.11 3.08 3.10 15.14 3.028
29 Arizona 3.28 2.72 3.00 2.96 3.09 15.05 3.010
30 Arkansas 2.96 2.93 2.88 3.30 2.96 15.03 3.006
31 Arizona State 3.04 2.63 3.15 3.10 3.04 14.96 2.992
32 Georgia Tech 2.69 3.30 2.64 2.90 3.17 14.70 2.940
33 Michigan State 2.84 2.70 2.71 3.30 3.10 14.65 2.930
34 Illinois 2.89 3.00 3.00 3.10 2.65 14.64 2.928
35 Missouri 2.63 2.89 3.00 2.80 3.30 14.62 2.924
36 Texas Tech 2.88 2.73 3.00 3.00 3.00 14.61 2.922
37 Washington 2.82 2.81 2.92 2.94 3.10 14.59 2.918
38 West Virginia 2.63 2.96 2.63 3.13 3.24 14.59 2.918
39 Wisconsin 2.70 3.06 2.83 3.00 2.88 14.47 2.894
40 Kansas 2.72 2.57 3.10 3.08 2.89 14.36 2.872
41 Stanford 2.44 2.63 2.71 3.27 3.13 14.18 2.836
42 Colorado 2.61 2.68 3.24 2.84 2.71 14.08 2.816
43 Miss State 2.67 2.62 2.56 3.15 2.92 13.92 2.784
44 Boston College 2.85 2.83 2.83 2.47 2.86 13.84 2.768
45 Virginia 2.67 3.04 2.50 2.84 2.78 13.83 2.766
46 Minnesota 2.33 2.46 3.07 3.05 2.92 13.83 2.766
47 NC State 2.45 2.64 2.88 2.78 3.05 13.80 2.760
48 Rutgers 2.52 2.83 2.65 3.00 2.75 13.75 2.750
49 Louisville 2.92 3.06 2.59 2.31 2.81 13.69 2.738
50 Iowa 2.70 2.95 2.54 2.47 3.00 13.66 2.732
51 TCU 2.56 2.54 2.40 3.00 3.11 13.61 2.722
52 Oregon State 2.60 2.51 2.72 2.63 3.12 13.58 2.716
53 Kansas State 2.52 2.67 2.94 2.48 2.94 13.55 2.710
54 South Florida 2.36 2.48 2.46 3.00 2.89 13.19 2.638
55 Utah 2.17 2.32 2.73 2.84 3.09 13.15 2.630
56 Southern Miss 2.29 2.16 2.78 2.95 2.88 13.06 2.612
57 Baylor 2.34 2.34 2.45 2.71 3.09 12.93 2.586
58 Northwestern 2.24 2.74 2.30 2.67 2.94 12.89 2.578
59 Kentucky 2.53 2.31 2.50 2.69 2.77 12.80 2.560
60 BYU 2.12 2.46 2.52 2.86 2.78 12.74 2.548
61 Purdue 2.38 2.68 2.48 2.53 2.63 12.70 2.540
62 Iowa State 2.50 2.44 2.33 2.52 2.71 12.50 2.500
63 Vandy 2.27 2.50 2.19 2.71 2.79 12.46 2.492
64 Wake Forest 2.40 2.30 2.47 2.48 2.74 12.39 2.478
65 UCF 2.29 2.31 2.61 2.42 2.74 12.37 2.474
66 Washington State 2.57 2.44 2.23 2.55 2.56 12.35 2.470
67 Syracuse 2.43 2.56 2.54 2.29 2.38 12.20 2.440
68 Fresno State 2.35 2.27 2.41 2.29 2.81 12.13 2.426
69 Duke 2.38 2.19 2.41 2.63 2.50 12.11 2.422
70 Cincinnati 2.44 2.26 2.25 2.48 2.57 12.00 2.400
71 Boise State 2.17 2.24 2.26 2.52 2.80 11.99 2.398
72 Indiana 2.25 2.15 2.26 2.72 2.44 11.82 2.364
73 UAB 2.54 2.04 2.08 2.57 2.48 11.71 2.342
74 Houston 2.04 2.14 2.16 2.52 2.81 11.67 2.334
75 Memphis 2.12 2.22 2.29 2.48 2.46 11.57 2.314
76 Tulsa 2.06 1.87 2.30 2.64 2.68 11.55 2.310
77 Hawaii 2.00 2.42 2.30 2.39 2.39 11.50 2.300
78 San Diego St 2.28 2.27 2.19 2.10 2.63 11.47 2.294
79 LA Tech 2.11 2.27 2.19 2.35 2.50 11.42 2.284
80 SMU 2.13 2.17 2.14 2.35 2.62 11.41 2.282
81 Marshall 2.13 2.15 2.38 2.29 2.37 11.32 2.264
82 East Carolina 2.15 2.15 2.14 2.32 2.50 11.26 2.252
83 Troy 2.12 2.22 2.24 2.35 2.30 11.23 2.246
84 Toledo 1.95 2.32 2.13 2.15 2.56 11.11 2.222
85 UNLV 2.15 2.32 2.00 2.36 2.26 11.09 2.218
86 Colorado State 2.13 1.96 2.16 2.25 2.56 11.06 2.212
87 Akron 2.17 2.19 2.18 2.33 2.17 11.04 2.208
88 Conneticut 1.96 2.24 2.14 2.24 2.45 11.03 2.206
89 North Texas 2.12 2.06 2.30 2.15 2.33 10.96 2.192
90 UTEP 2.10 2.26 2.12 2.14 2.31 10.93 2.186
91 Wyoming 2.05 2.29 2.14 2.17 2.26 10.91 2.182
92 Rice 2.06 2.13 2.06 2.13 2.50 10.88 2.176
93 New Mexico 2.04 2.00 2.18 2.21 2.41 10.84 2.168
94 Mid Tenn State 2.00 2.00 2.29 2.13 2.42 10.84 2.168
95 Kent State 2.00 2.08 2.18 2.32 2.25 10.83 2.166
96 Miami-OH 2.05 2.17 2.06 2.12 2.22 10.62 2.124
97 Idaho 2.05 2.05 2.10 2.10 2.32 10.62 2.124
98 Nevada 1.96 2.00 2.14 2.19 2.32 10.61 2.122
99 Ball State 2.13 2.00 2.10 2.13 2.19 10.55 2.110
100 San Jose St 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.11 2.24 10.50 2.100
101 Western Michigan 2.00 2.04 2.12 2.08 2.25 10.49 2.098
102 LA Monroe 2.13 2.00 2.14 2.04 2.13 10.44 2.088
103 Northern Illinois 2.06 2.00 2.00 2.04 2.32 10.42 2.084
104 Temple 1.89 2.13 2.08 2.04 2.28 10.42 2.084
105 Arkansas St 2.05 2.04 2.04 2.05 2.23 10.41 2.082
106 New Mexico State 1.76 2.10 2.00 2.14 2.39 10.39 2.078
107 Tulane 2.00 1.92 2.00 2.32 2.13 10.37 2.074
108 Central Michigan 2.00 1.94 2.05 2.23 2.15 10.37 2.074
109 Bowling Green 1.96 2.10 2.00 2.09 2.20 10.35 2.070
110 Utah State 2.04 2.00 2.10 2.05 2.14 10.33 2.066
111 Ohio 1.95 1.91 2.20 2.19 2.06 10.31 2.062
112 Eastern Michigan 2.00 2.04 2.04 2.14 2.08 10.30 2.060
113 Buffalo 2.13 1.90 2.00 2.09 2.16 10.28 2.056
114 LA Lafayette 2.05 2.06 2.00 2.06 2.04 10.21 2.042
115 Air Force 1.65 1.73 1.93 1.90 2.06 9.27 1.854
116 Army 1.05 1.65 2.00 1.85 1.58 8.13 1.626
117 Navy 1.18 1.33 1.75 1.14 2.25 7.65 1.530
118 Illinois State 1.33 1.00 0.94 0.75 0.80 4.82 0.964
119 Chattanooga 0.67 0.44 0.00 0.83 0.86 2.80 0.560
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have to be coached and schemes have to be set and taught. just like a really good coach can get more out of less, a miles can get less out of more.
Again, you exaggerate to make LSU look good about as bad as you stretch things to make Stans look bad.Coach34 said:
Should've beaten OM??? OM completely, completely, dominated that game, and LSU was lucky as hell to have the opportunity to be close. Bama doubled them up in yardage, and LSU was lucky as hell to beat MSU, UGA, and Arky. They could've gone 2-6 last year. and probably should've been 3-5 for sure.
They're going to give it all they've got and play w/ more emotion than any other game vs Bama, and they may pull that one out for that reason. But it doesn't matter b/c Bama will finish ahead of LSU in the standings even w/ a loss there. That's the difference in them, LSU is mediocre enough to trip up against mediocre teams a couple of times, while Saban will beat the lesser talented teams more consistently
The websites give recruits a boost if they are a high priority for LSU. Same for Bama, Florida, OSU, Texas, etc.
Those teams do get the best talent, but there is a boost given to those programs signees based on the name of the program. Signees for Michigan, Notre Dame, etc. also get boosts in the rankings, but those classes weren't that good.
LSU does have a decently talented team this year, but they're nowhere near the level Saban had them, yet the recruiting classes are ranked as strong or close to as strong.
Those teams do get the best talent, but there is a boost given to those programs signees based on the name of the program. Signees for Michigan, Notre Dame, etc. also get boosts in the rankings, but those classes weren't that good.
LSU does have a decently talented team this year, but they're nowhere near the level Saban had them, yet the recruiting classes are ranked as strong or close to as strong.
I think they're still getting great talent, but what separates LSU under Saban and under Miles is player development. Saban is a master at getting his players to reach their potential, while Miles has seemingly done a so-so job with all everything recruits like Keiland Williams, Al Woods, Sidell Corley, Joe Barksdale... Ciron Black went from a 1st round projection after his sophomore year to an undrafted player. That wouldn't have happened on Saban's watch