How will the new MS freedom eduction bill affect public/private school sports, teachers ect?

CoastTrash

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My prediction: It will pass the house but not the state senate. Only changes that will pass senate this year will be a Teacher pay raise and relaxation of public to public transfer rules.
 
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OG Goat Holder

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My prediction: It will pass the house but not the state senate. Only changes that will pass senate this year will be a Teacher pay raise and relaxation of public to public transfer rules.
Agree. Too much resistance. I honestly don’t know if it’s good or not. It works in other states but MS is different.
 
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greenbean.sixpack

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I'm 100% agains public to public transfer. There is no greater indicator of a good community in MS than its public schools. Let enough JPS students into NWR and over time, that school goes down biggly. Even if the school is full, they will put out "portables" to accommodate the incoming students (and the $7k each kid brings), bureaucrats are addicted to tax money.

At any rate, there's so big money backing it.
 

bulldoghair

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I'm 100% agains public to public transfer. There is no greater indicator of a good community in MS than its public schools. Let enough JPS students into NWR and over time, that school goes down biggly. Even if the school is full, they will put out "portables" to accommodate the incoming students (and the $7k each kid brings), bureaucrats are addicted to tax money.

At any rate, there's so big money backing it.
From what I think I’m understanding? A particular kid no longer has to be released from their natural school or school district, but the other school has the right of refusal to accept or not.
 

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From what I think I’m understanding? A particular kid no longer has to be released from their natural school or school district, but the other school has the right of refusal to accept or not.
Right. And most of the time you don’t get accepted unless you’re an athlete.
 

patdog

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Why are we different? It’s been wildly successful in surrounding states. What’s diff between arky and us?
Just curious, how has this been wildly successful in Arkansas? Cause it seem like a terrible idea to me. Seems like you’re going to decimate the poor districts even more & bring the good ones down. And “right of refusal” sounds great, until they start whittling away at that right & eventually get rid of it altogether.
 

GulfDawg

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Just curious, how has this been wildly successful in Arkansas? Cause it seem like a terrible idea to me. Seems like you’re going to decimate the poor districts even more & bring the good ones down. And “right of refusal” sounds great, until they start whittling away at that right & eventually get rid of it altogether.
This is what I think about it as well; however I’m no expert on the topic.
 
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bulldoghair

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Right. And most of the time you don’t get accepted unless you’re an athlete.
So will this cause easier access for an area school to stockpile all the athletes, within reasonable driving distance, at one school for a particular sport? That’s just public to public. What about the $7,000 and public to private? What I’m reading is there would be no oversight or testing accountability. Wouldn’t private schools just start charging $7,000 on top of already tuition? Imagine that kind of money per student they get to pay teachers, coaches, recruit, whatever they want. They could pay and offer more to attract or cherry pick the very best teachers in the public schools. I’m not sure if everyone has thought through the ramifications of everything. I personally think public to public is great, as long as the accepting school has the right of refusal. This sounds like a mess if all is passed as is.
 
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bulldoghair

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Part of it, to me at least, is that MS schools as a whole have shown some serious improvement in recent years… is now really the time to try and reinvent the wheel?
I’m not certain that the NAEP scores arent overhyped and largely a statistical illusion rather than a genuine education turnaround. That narrative relies heavily on who gets tested, and who doesn’t. I really am starting to think this is solely about transferring major money to the private schools.
 
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I have no idea how it works but everyone around Desoto County is going to want to come to Desoto County schools even though there’s no room. They just finished building a 90 million dollar Hernando High School that is already too small. All the schools here are busting at the seams.

I’m assuming they can just say “sorry we are full” but I bet it’s not that simple.
 

bulldoghair

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When someone tells me they homeschool their kids I like to say “ oh really? You can barely tell” and walk away
In Mississippi, this goes extremely well, or really bad. Several of the very best college students and career adults I know were homeschooled. Then I also know of kids and people who were supposedly homeschooled but their parents never did anything. Mississippi has one of the least, if not the least, oversights with regards to homeschooling in the nation.
 
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In Mississippi, this goes extremely well, or really bad. Several of the very best college students and career adults I know were homeschooled. Then I also know of kids and people who were supposedly homeschooled but their parents never did anything. Mississippi has one of the least, if not the least, oversights with regards to homeschooling in the nation.
Yes when I refer to homeschooling I mean actual school in the home. Not lazy parents creating lazy children
 
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patdog

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Wow stereotype much?
Not stereotyping at all. If your kid is being homeschooled he’ll rarely be exposed to anything but you personal doctrine. If a kid goes to a school, he’ll still be exposed to your doctrines but he’ll also potentially be exposed to others. Depending on the parents & the school teachers either could be a good or bad thing.
 

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Here’s my problem with homeschooling. You’re isolating the child in a bubble. They’re not being exposed to the real world and all the dumbasses that they’re eventually going to have to deal with. Not to mention that probably the vast majority of the parents who are homeschooling their kids aren’t qualified to teach.
 

Villagedawg

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Just give private school and homeschool parents land tax exemptions and it’ll be a good first step
Yeah. And people who don’t have kids should get the exemption too. And people who have kids that already graduated too. Why should I fund the schools if my kids don’t go?** While we are at it how about we exempt people who’ve never called the fire department. And one for never calling the police. I also should get an exemption if I burn my trash. How about a federal exemption if the military never had to defend my specific neighborhood? **
 

Villagedawg

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I’m not certain that the NAEP scores arent overhyped and largely a statistical illusion rather than a genuine education turnaround. That narrative relies heavily on who gets tested, and who doesn’t. I really am starting to think this is solely about transferring major money to the private schools.
I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you that anyone would think that!
 

Villagedawg

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In Mississippi, this goes extremely well, or really bad. Several of the very best college students and career adults I know were homeschooled. Then I also know of kids and people who were supposedly homeschooled but their parents never did anything. Mississippi has one of the least, if not the least, oversights with regards to homeschooling in the nation.
Has to be the least because there is literally no oversight whatsoever.