Hubert Davis

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

UNC 6-5 I LOVE IT !

and a 21 point comeback win from being 5-6 with all that talent. Their rivals board used to have some of the biggest Douch bag mods of anywhere that would bait you to say anything that they could ban you over and then laugh about it after they did. So to Evil Gun Slinger Dick and Hellish Heel I have one thing to say to you......

 

[Digger-Cat]

I mean, we all knew Hubert didn't have the chops for that job. Armando Bacot covered up a lot of crap.
Hubert did a terrible job reloading his front court.
Hopefully he does enough to get into the tournament so he retains his job. I hope they keep him for 20 years.
NC has that standard where they only hire within, that's going to bite them in the ***, it already iss. Bring back Bill Guthridge.

 

[KentuckyCat420]

This was incredibly predictable, they weren’t even good his first year, they just got hot in the tournament and made a Final 4.

Unfortunately for UNC, all that did was buy Hubert a lot more time than he deserved.

 

[Eagles_Ball_69]

Wonder if Wes Miller will be their next call.

If they want to win big, he will be.

 

[Eagles_Ball_69]

That's an insult to Tubby. Tubby had some good years after the title. Oh, and he won a title. Davis has a win over Duke (a much appreciated win over Duke I might add) and that's about it.

Full disclosure, I couldn't stand Tubby at the end. He was almost Cal-like. Borderline lazy and completely stubborn about evolving. First thing I thought when I read OPs title, that's a huge slap in the face to OTS. That guy was blazing hot when UK hired him.

 

[JPFisher]

With Caleb Wilson looking at UK and UNC... This shouldn't be a difficult choice. UK doesn't have a PF for next year yet and Hubert Davis can't coach. I know NIL means a lot, but still. UNC is approaching dumpster fire levels right now.

 

[westerncat]

With Caleb Wilson looking at UK and UNC... This shouldn't be a difficult choice. UK doesn't have a PF for next year yet and Hubert Davis can't coach. I know NIL means a lot, but still. UNC is approaching dumpster fire levels right now.

I hope UNC continues to lose games. Do they have any good players coming in next year ? They do have that freshman guard (I believe his name is Jackson) who played great last night. Like you I hope Wilson comes to UK.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

That's an insult to Tubby. Tubby had some good years after the title. Oh, and he won a title. Davis has a win over Duke (a much appreciated win over Duke I might add) and that's about it.

2003-2005 was a very solid run. Bad luck in the tournament but elite team all three years

 

[UK90]

and a 21 point comeback win from being 5-6 with all that talent. Their rivals board used to have some of the biggest Douch bag mods of anywhere that would bait you to say anything that they could ban you over and then laugh about it after they did. So to Evil Gun Slinger Dick and Hellish Heel I have one thing to say to you......

Yep. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but the UNC mods used to be notorious for being the most “ban-happy” on the internet …especially during that academic scandal era. They simply would not allow any opinions that differed from the UNC party line.

It’s still the only time I’ve ever gotten a ban from a message board. And, as far as I could tell, for no reason other than having the letters “UK” in my user name.

 

[saxonburgcat]

2003-2005 was a very solid run. Bad luck in the tournament but elite team all three years

"Bad luck" was commonly used on this board when Tubby was here. It just became an excuse for his continued shortcomings. It is just as easy to attribute his title to "good luck" if you want to go there.

 

[saxonburgcat]

Yep. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but the UNC mods used to be notorious for being the most “ban-happy” on the internet …especially during that academic scandal era. They simply would not allow any opinions that differed from the UNC party line.

It’s still the only time I’ve ever gotten a ban from a message board. And, as far as I could tell, for no reason other than having the letters “UK” in my user name.

There was a time in which they banned UK fans for posting anything negative about UNC on Rupp Rafters. JPScott was banned and he hadn't posted on their site in a long while when he was banned.

Fortunately for this board, the scandal at UNC managed to get the trash to run away and many of them never came back.

 

[kywildcat1021979]

With Caleb Wilson looking at UK and UNC... This shouldn't be a difficult choice. UK doesn't have a PF for next year yet and Hubert Davis can't coach. I know NIL means a lot, but still. UNC is approaching dumpster fire levels right now.

Definitely seems like a no brainer from the coaching and basketball side of things.

 

[Digger-Cat]

Full disclosure, I couldn't stand Tubby at the end. He was almost Cal-like. Borderline lazy and completely stubborn about evolving. First thing I thought when I read OPs title, that's a huge slap in the face to OTS. That guy was blazing hot when UK hired him.

I always liked Tubby, until he let go of the rope at the end of his tenure, but I wouldn't say he was blazing hot when UK hired him. I think he had a sweet 16.

 

[-BBH-]

and a 21 point comeback win from being 5-6 with all that talent. Their rivals board used to have some of the biggest Douch bag mods of anywhere that would bait you to say anything that they could ban you over and then laugh about it after they did. So to Evil Gun Slinger Dick and Hellish Heel I have one thing to say to you......

Heel Bent was an A Hole too. I think he's gone now, but he perma banned me for nothing. Those guys getting everything they deserve.

Don't see them making the tournament at this point. Bubble at best.

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

They may be stuck for a while
Bill Belichick sounds like took most of the available funds

 

[Broker]

If they want to win big, he will be.

Look what Bruce Pearl did at TN and now Auburn. I can't imagine what he could & do at UNC. He would recruit out the axx. Sleazebag but maybe the best coachin today's college basketball. I would like to see him out of the SEC.

 

[JayCatz44]

On their 247 board, they're arguing whether to hire Oats or Hurley.

 

[bthaunert]

On their 247 board, they're arguing whether to hire Oats or Hurley.

That sounds familiar

 

[Possum]

 

[serdi]

Look what Bruce Pearl did at TN and now Auburn. I can't imagine what he could & do at UNC. He would recruit out the axx. Sleazebag but maybe the best coachin today's college basketball. I would like to see him out of the SEC.

Another plus for Bruce is that he could sell a guaranteed degree without ever going to class...that is hard to beat.

 

[Tayshaun4Three]

Another plus for Bruce is that he could sell a guaranteed degree without ever going to class...that is hard to beat.

Say what you want about my boy Bruce but he can grill a mean burger. Ever been to one of his cookouts?

 

[serdi]

With Caleb Wilson looking at UK and UNC... This shouldn't be a difficult choice. UK doesn't have a PF for next year yet and Hubert Davis can't coach. I know NIL means a lot, but still. UNC is approaching dumpster fire levels right now.

Depends if Caleb Wilson is interested in an education...is he interested in taking classes? Is he interested in working towards a degree? If he is not, then hands down the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is the place for him. He goes there, they give him his degree of choice, and never has to find a a classroom...Can't beat that.

 

[bbnkat02]

On their 247 board, they're arguing whether to hire Oats or Hurley.

I mean. Two of the best names in coaching right now. Of course they’re gonna want to try to go after them.

 

[JPFisher]

I mean. Two of the best names in coaching right now. Of course they’re gonna want to try to go after them.

UNC should go with Oats. Gets Oats out of the SEC and lets UConn continue to siphon all of their funding to the crybaby.

 

[JPFisher]

They may be stuck for a while
Bill Belichick sounds like took most of the available funds

Destroyed their athletics funding for a washed up NFL coach who hasn't ever had to deal with college kids (besides his s/o). Watching their basketball program wither will be fun.

 

[bbnkat02]

Destroyed their athletics funding for a washed up NFL coach who hasn't ever had to deal with college kids (besides his s/o). Watching their basketball program wither will be fun.

Kinda concerns me actually. If a very historic program like UNC is willing to sacrifice their bball program like that for football, is college basketball just going to die out?

We know that we are the "nerd sport" of college athletics; and football is basically "god" in America.

Man, I'm glad we got Pope this year, because my love of college sports (and sports in general) is just dying out.

 

[Montana81]

NGL, it’ll be maddening to watch how fast another blue blood will move on from a coach that’s played in a title game, won a conference title and been a 1 seed because hes underperforming after we kept tubby and cal as far past their expiration dates as we did.

If you wanna know why UNC, Kansas, Duke and now Uconn have usurped us as the top dog in the sport over the last 40 years this is exhibit A. They just want it more and their not afraid to make changes.

Final Four and title count since Mitch Barnhardt took over 20+ years ago:

Uconn 6/5
UNC 6/3
Kansas 5/2
Duke 4/2
Kentucky 4/1

Duke honestly wasn’t that great either over that time but they have multiple titles and K is probably the one coach in the sport that earned the right to leave when HE was ready no matter what. Barnhardt afforded Cal AND Tubby those luxuries without either earning it and it’s killed us.

/rant

 

[bbnkat02]

NGL, it’ll be maddening to watch how fast another blue blood will move on from a coach that’s played in a title game, won a conference title and been a 1 seed because hes underperforming after we kept tubby and cal as far past their expiration dates as we did.

If you wanna know why UNC, Kansas, Duke and now Uconn have usurped us as the top dog in the sport over the last 40 years this is exhibit A. They just want it more and their not afraid to make changes.

Final Four and title count since Mitch Barnhardt took over 20+ years ago:

Uconn 6/5
UNC 6/3
Kansas 5/2
Duke 4/2
Kentucky 4/1

Duke honestly wasn’t that great either over that time but they have multiple titles and K is probably the one coach in the sport that earned the right to leave when HE was ready no matter what. Barnhardt afforded Cal AND Tubby those luxuries without either earning it and it’s killed us.

/rant

Cal was great up until the last 5-6 years. That Fox/Monk team was screwed out of a title run as they rightly deserved. So, take that one from UNC and give it to us and it's about the same. Don't forget the MASSIVE cheating/academic scandals UNC got away with during that time too.

UConn has lucked into a BUNCH of their success. Minus last year where they were truly dominate all year.

Kansas isn't all that. Self has flamed out more than he's made runs.

Now, this isn't a defense of Cal or Mitch. The sport has changed a lot in 20 years.

 

[Montana81]

Cal was great up until the last 5-6 years. That Fox/Monk team was screwed out of a title run as they rightly deserved. So, take that one from UNC and give it to us and it's about the same. Don't forget the MASSIVE cheating/academic scandals UNC got away with during that time too.

UConn has lucked into a BUNCH of their success. Minus last year where they were truly dominate all year.

Kansas isn't all that. Self has flamed out more than he's made runs.

Now, this isn't a defense of Cal or Mitch. The sport has changed a lot in 20 years.

I hate UNC more than anyone. And half of their major accomplishments are indeed fraudulent. But i’ve conceded that’s just part of the game. College sports = if you ain’t cheatin you ain’t tryin.

A lot of Kansas success is tainted too(pump brothers in self’s early tenure, wiggins and adidas, McLemore basically having an agent in high school and while he was at Kansas before it was okay). As is Dukes (lance ware, Zion, sean dockery)

Quite simply, we’ve shown we just don’t want it as bad in our unwillingness to do the things that the other top programs are to win. That’s disappointing to me since its clear the sports governing body can’t control it. We’ve fallen behind because we’re playing scared.

 

[Montana81]

Cal was great up until the last 5-6 years. That Fox/Monk team was screwed out of a title run as they rightly deserved. So, take that one from UNC and give it to us and it's about the same. Don't forget the MASSIVE cheating/academic scandals UNC got away with during that time too.

UConn has lucked into a BUNCH of their success. Minus last year where they were truly dominate all year.

Kansas isn't all that. Self has flamed out more than he's made runs.

Now, this isn't a defense of Cal or Mitch. The sport has changed a lot in 20 years.

Also, you can call a lot of Uconn’s success lucky. I’d argue the Kevin Ollie title was certainly that. But look how fast they moved on from him. They self investigated and self reported major violations so they could fire him with cause just 4 years removed from a natty. And that’s ultimately why they got Hurley and are back on top again.

 

[bbnkat02]

I hate UNC more than anyone. And half of their major accomplishments are indeed fraudulent. But i’ve conceded that’s just part of the game. College sports = if you ain’t cheatin you ain’t tryin.

A lot of Kansas success is tainted too(pump brothers in self’s early tenure, wiggins and adidas, McLemore basically having an agent in high school and while he was at Kansas before it was okay). As is Dukes (lance ware, Zion, sean dockery)

Quite simply, we’ve shown we just don’t want it as bad in our unwillingness to do the things that the other top programs are to win. That’s disappointing to me since its clear the sports governing body can’t control it. We’ve fallen behind because we’re playing scared.

If you feel the need to cheat to feel validation in life, that's shallow. Sorry, not sorry.

 

[TigerMoving]

I will hold him in high esteem for knocking Duke and Paolo out of the final four.
Thanks for that Hubert.

Same here. I know it's blasphemy but me and my son have kinda rooted for Hubie/UNC ever since he did that. We would still be hearing Coach K propaganda nonstop if they didn't put him down.

 

[Montana81]

If you feel the need to cheat to feel validation in life, that's shallow. Sorry, not sorry.

I’m just talking about sports bro. But that’s an extraordinarily pretentious response. Good job.

 

[bbnkat02]

I’m just talking about sports bro. But that’s an extraordinarily pretentious response. Good job.

So John Wooden is a "god" because he cheated better than anyone else. Nah, I'm just sick of this crap. Sports have become less enjoyable because of it. If you find that "pretentious" feel free to ignore it.

 

[bbnkat02]

Same here. I know it's blasphemy but me and my son have kinda rooted for Hubie/UNC ever since he did that. We would still be hearing Coach K propaganda nonstop if they didn't put him down.

No joke. He'd have been deified beyond belief. The Duke hubris would've been non freaking stop.

 

[jgraf1]

if he gets let go, will espn and everyone involved with college basketball call the fans racists like they did to UK fans in 2007 when tubby left on his own volition?

no. nah. nope. never

 

[Montana81]

if he gets let go, will espn and everyone involved with college basketball call the fans racists like they did to UK fans in 2007 when tubby left on his own volition?

no. nah. nope. never

I only remember Mike Wilbon beating that drum. But i mostly stopped watching PTI when it became painfully clear they didn’t really pay much attention to college basketball. Wilbon and Kornehiesers takes on the sport in general we’re often comically bad.

there are some sportscasters and media that criticize the firing/moving on of any coach. A lot of them are just the ultimate coaching/leaderships stans. Vitale is the biggest example. I’d pass out from surprise if i ever heard any of them endorse a performance related coaching termination.

And we didn’t even fire tubby and probably weren’t going to. The rumor back the was Mitch was just going to and force more staff changes on him. Tubby didn’t want to have to let his assistants go so he bailed.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Is he Carolina’s Tubby. Great success first year with Roy’s players then mediocrity

Tubby was far from mediocre.

 

[anon1751545683]

"Bad luck" was commonly used on this board when Tubby was here. It just became an excuse for his continued shortcomings. It is just as easy to attribute his title to "good luck" if you want to go there.

It wasn’t luck. After the Valentine’s Day massacre the team took over and coached themselves.

Tubby did have the good sense to stay out of the way.

It was all the players and their prior preparation.

I didn’t think so at the time. But then I saw that Tubby never won anything after that. Anywhere.

Then checked on his prior to UK career and he never won anything before either.

So what’s the aberration, that one year or the rest of his career?

 

[RunninRichie]

Iirc even the deep run he had was because he had one guy catch fire right at the end of the season. The next season they flopped even with the same team and its downhill from there.

Be curious to see if they hire another Carolina man or if with nil now huber is there long enough for all the skeletons to cycle their way out of the closet.

Manek caught fire yep.