Hunter Renfroe commits to MSU Baseball!!!

[MadDawg.sixpack]

why it was automatically assumed that if I had a negative opinion of Cohen thus far that I must have not attended any games or know what the hell I'm talking about.

But yes, I understand your point as well. Certainly one needs some knowledge of the subject to have an opinion. But even in the example you used, someone could still have a decent opinion on whether Toyotas suck or not even if they didn't own one if they spent every day on the "Toyota Owners Message Board" reading opinions from actual owners, reading articles written by the Toyota beat writer in the local paper and talking with friends who are Toyota owners.

Regardless,sorry for the sarcastic and smart-*** responses.

 

[KurtRambis4]

mean you, I was speaking in general. I would say, in general, the majority of the poeple that seem to complain the most are people that are (at best) casual observers. I wasn't saying you had to be Billy Martin to know what the hell you are talking about.

 

[DowntownDawg]

....and dwarfs any other aspect of the game. This is because we have the Ed Orgeron of pitching coaches (can recruit, can't coach), we've had bad injuries (related to our pitching coach not being very good), and we're young.

We were middle of the pack in offensive categories.

 

[BriantheDawg]

Nobody forced him to keep any of the Polk leftovers. I know, it's a little bit of a different situation, but he could have cut off all the fat and started all from scratch after his first season of seeing how bad it was. If he'd have done that, I'd still be expecting to go to a Regional next year, which would essentially be his 2nd season after starting from scratch. Again, if Oregon can do it, no reason we shouldn't be able to.

And didn't Jackie Sherrill have 2 highly rated classes his last couple of years in Starkville? It may have only been one good class, I don't really remember....but it sure as hell never payed off down the road for us.

 

[Todd4State]

We have life-long Bulldogs openly wondering if the man has any coaching ability at all. Statements like "hopefully he can recruit superior talent, because it's obvious he's not going to coach anyone up" are getting to be more and more common. And despite your Croom-esque implication of "if you can't see the improvement you are blind" there is plently of non-improvement to notice. Horrible base-running, pitching changes that make no sense, leaving pitchers in too long just to name a few.

Perhaps you should find another board to post on where contrary opinions are discouraged. Because here you are allowed to state what you think.

for wanting to win. You don't win, you get criticized. I remember Cardinals fans criticizing Tony LaRussa for not winning in 1997, 1998, and 1999. I've seen Braves fans on here criticize Bobby Cox at times. That said, it's a LOT easier to coach well when you have good players.

You make Joe Torre the manager of the Pirates and see what happens. He won't look so good. I think a lot of the people compaining about the pitching changes- that seems to be a little bit of a hindsight thing to me, and that goes back to talent. If you have a bad bullpen, you are more likely to gamble and keep a pitcher in longer. If you bring in a pitcher and he doesn't execute, a lot of times people are going to question the manager and the buck does stop there, but that doesn't necessarily mean that was a bad move on his part. If you bring in Papelbon to close a game and he blows the game, that doesn't mean it was a bad move by the manager.

As far as the baserunning, I think that will continue to improve with more aggressive players, and faster players who are better baserunners than what we had.

 

[Dollabillz]

but you want Butch Thompson fired? The guy who coaches pitchers? That makes no sense.

Look, I agree we've got to improve, I just think that we had an effort problem from some of our older players that SHOULD have been our leaders. And our pitching was young. That's all there is to it. We didn't finish games out.

 

[jcdawgman18]

I'm not trying to be an ***, but I'm just curious. How many games (whole games) did you go to this year or even watch period?

I was there every Friday night, most midweek games, and several Saturdays and Sundays. So yes, I saw lots of last year's team.

Again, I don't think I'm asking too much to finish 8th in our conference and just make a regional by Coach Cohen's third year. I think that should be the baseline expectation in a sport where your best players are gone after 3 years and are usually contributing by year 2 at the latest.

 

[catvet]

so they say, Coach Cohen can't coach: even though he has won everywhere he has been. Even named national coach of the year in 2006, but he can't coach. He doesn't even have his second recruiting class on campus, both are rated in the top ten, but he needs to go.

Maddawg=Polk, Brian=Raffo.

 

[57stratdawg]

and in the regionals. Oh wait..

You dont have to watch onebaseball game all year long to know that our team was terrible this year. Our staff ERA in SEC games was like 8 or 9. Our team was terrible in the field as well. At one point we were 5-8 in SEC play, we finished 6-24 (or something?). We went 1-14 against the SEC west in baseball this year.

Who gives a <17> how many games people watched? There was a reason no one watched, because we were the worse team in MSU history (I still stand by that).

I've always said Cohen has to make Hoover next year, other wise he should be fired.

 

[38843dawg]

do you honestly think that during the course of the season our pitchers developed any? Who gives a **** about youth, they did not progress any during the course of the season. Hell many here blame Butch for the injuries that many of our pitchers have received. I just pointed out the defense because it was the most brutal thing about our team, among many other.

 

[RHobbs09]

Someone mentioned that Oregon made the Regionals in their 2nd year, but most dont realize how they went about it.

First, they hired, in my opinion, the Best College Baseball Coach in George Horton. Hired him away from Cal State Fullerton after the 2007 season.

In 2008, Oregon had a FULL Coaching Staff and No Team. They Recruited and planned for the start of their program.

They signed a FULL CLASS in the sping of 2008 and had not played a game yet. That class had some highly rated high school players and a few JUCO All Americans

They signed another full clss in the fall 2008/spring of 2009 in their first year which also had some very good players in it.

So it is actually the Coaches 3rd year and with two back to back recruiting classes. They went from 14-42 last year to the regionals this year.

Look for Oregon to become a force in College Baseball in the West. George Horton can coach and has been given the freedom to build his program from scratch. </p>

 

[OMlawdog]

At least that is my guess here.