Hypothetical as it may be....

jauk11

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Last year if we had scored 35 points every game and the other side had scored the same as they did (wouldn't have happened of course) we would have only lost to Thug U, by 17, MSU, by 7, and Transfer U by 3. We would have beat Florida by 26 and Mizzou by 22, and Vandy by 14.

Probably not that relevant, but interesting.

Nine wins, I could live with that.
 
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ulismyman

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I just think we have to score with our weapons and how highly thought of Gran and Hinshaw are
 

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I know we are talking hypothetical here but just to put some actual numbers to it...

The Cats averaged 23.8 (vs FBS competition) last year. Averaging 35 would be a one season jump of 11.2 PPG. In 2015, there were only 11 teams that upped their 2014 PPG mark by 11.2 or more.

Interesting side notes:
(1) Six of those 11 teams were ranked in the top 11 passing teams (YPG) in 2015.
(2) MS was the only SEC team to improve by 11.2 PPG or more.

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anon_013cn8yrfncx2

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Last year if we had scored 35 points every game and the other side had scored the same as they did (wouldn't have happened of course) we would have only lost to Thug U, by 17, MSU, by 7, and Transfer U by 3. We would have beat Florida by 26 and Mizzou by 22, and Vandy by 14.

Probably not that relevant, but interesting.

Nine wins, I could live with that.

There's a vast difference between scoring 35 every game and averaging 35. Score 70 in 6 games and 0 in the other 6 for 35 a game and a 6-6 record. Glad to get 6 wins any way we can.
 

jauk11

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There's a vast difference between scoring 35 every game and averaging 35. Score 70 in 6 games and 0 in the other 6 for 35 a game and a 6-6 record. Glad to get 6 wins any way we can.

True, I was thinking that also. But you have to have a darn good O to average 35 a game
 

ulismyman

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I get it...numbers will be scewed somewhat because we will put up 60 plus against n mex st and Austin Peay...and maybe 10 against Bama...i get it
 

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I know we are talking hypothetical here but just to put some actual numbers to it...

The Cats averaged 23.8 (vs FBS competition) last year. Averaging 35 would be a one season jump of 11.2 PPG. In 2015, there were only 11 teams that upped their 2014 PPG mark by 11.2 or more.

Interesting side notes:
(1) Six of those 11 teams were ranked in the top 11 passing teams (YPG) in 2015.
(2) MS was the only SEC team to improve by 11.2 PPG or more.

Peace
Considering the Cats underperformed on offense last year from the prior year, and with a new QB, more experience and talent, as well as a very solid OC, a jump of that magnitude is hardly out of the question for the Cats.

They SHOULD have averaged over 30 a game last year.
 
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I would say on average we give up 0 points If we want the best outcome. I hope sometimes we give up negative points

Hypothetically
 

WeepNoMore

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With the way the defense has performed to-date in Fall camp, I'd venture 2-4 wins. If you can't stop the run and only occasionally pressure the passer, you're not going to win very many shootouts vs SEC or U of L, or So. Miss. for that matter.
 

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With the way the defense has performed to-date in Fall camp, I'd venture 2-4 wins. If you can't stop the run and only occasionally pressure the passer, you're not going to win very many shootouts vs SEC or U of L, or So. Miss. for that matter.

I find irony in your screen name.

The defense will be better than last year, even if only by a little, and it sounds as if the offense will be significantly better this year than it was last. Considering that UK was a play away from beating Florida, Vanderbilt, and Auburn, and should have destroyed Louisville with the start that we had, I think we'll certainly fare better than "2-4 wins".
 

WeepNoMore

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I find irony in your screen name.

The defense will be better than last year, even if only by a little, and it sounds as if the offense will be significantly better this year than it was last. Considering that UK was a play away from beating Florida, Vanderbilt, and Auburn, and should have destroyed Louisville with the start that we had, I think we'll certainly fare better than "2-4 wins".

You surely realize that FL, VU and AU have not sat around on their hands all Spring, Summer and Fall. With the athletes they have, I expect that FL and AU will be more than a little better; Vandy who knows.

The reason my friend that we didn't beat, much less destroy, UofL was that we could not stop the run; we simply couldn't tackle in the 2nd half.

With such an important FB fundamental, tackling, being a problem 10 days into Fall camp, at this point I simply don't share your belief that the defense will be better than last year. In fact, it could be much worse! So much so that even a high powered offense, if we indeed will have one, won't ensure a win.
 
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You surely realize that FL, VU and AU have not sat around on their hands all Spring, Summer and Fall. With the athletes they have, I expect that FL and AU will be more than a little better; Vandy who knows.

The reason my friend that we didn't beat, much less destroy, UofL was that we could not stop the run; we simply couldn't tackle in the 2nd half.

With such an important FB fundamental, tackling, being a problem 10 days into Fall camp, at this point I simply don't share your belief that the defense will be better than last year. In fact, it could be much worse! So much so that even a high powered offense, if we indeed will have one, won't ensure a win.
Those who say we have an improved defense are what we call 'stoops apologists' they make excuses for everything that doesn't go ;stoops way. If our defense isn't much improved like they hope it will. They're going to chalk it up to stoops not having denough time to recruit and create depth. Just notice who it was who made the post, and when mid-late season comes around listen to what he's saying then. He's going to blame our defensive woes to injuries (every team experiences injuries), and stoops not having enough time to build depth at positions of need. Seriously just watch the excuses the guy will be making for stoops defense during the last 3rd of the season. It's not going to be stoops fault it's going to be injuries and father time's fault for not allowing stoops enough time to recruit. Just watch. Guarantee it. But yea to your point. Inability to finish tackles is going to kill is this year.. Like absolutely kill us.
 

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We've actually improved about 10-15 spots in each of Stoops' first three years in our total defense national ranking. I think we were in the 50's last year, up from the 90's in his first year.

If our offense improves like we expect, and our defense can hold steady, I see 7+ wins this year.