I don't generally follow recruiting as closely as I have this year
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I just can't believe how well he's doing in such a short amount of time. We have some high profile guys that are seriously considering coming to State and he's only been here full time for about 3 weeks now. The Man can recruit damn well and I'm pretty sure he can coach too. Football is about to be fun again. I can't wait.
getting the instate guys that committed early. That is if he could keep them. Mullen on the other hand is attempting to finish strong. And with Crooms, with every high profile recruit that decommitted, he would just take a commit from some team manager type that he didn't have to fight other schools for.
Hell even with the visit this week I will as well. Well I almost have this week anyway a couple times since I have been down with Salmonella poisioning.615dawg said:
But can you imagine the potential of this class four years down the road if he does sign? There could be a lot of crow eaten in the sports writer community that just slobbered over Croom being such a great coach and how he was a great mind. It will be great to see Corso flop back to "you can win here" in the late 90's from "you have to 'cheat' to win here" of a couple years ago. A couple of more classes like this and we can finally put any thought of this early and middle decade to rest.
Croom had two major problems with recruiting:
1. He didn't know what he was doing. It's a selling job. While becoming a good person in society is certainly an admirable thing (to grownups) recruiting is something where the players are looking out for themselves (and rightfully so) just as much as the school is. To get them to come to your school you have to tell them to tell them what they want to hear, because once they sign that LOI, you pretty much have them by the balls. If they want to leave your school, their choices are pretty much JUCO if they are an underclassman, D-I-AA, or go somewhere far off and sit out a year, or stay and wait their turn to play.
2. He gave out too many scholarships to his friends kids. I don't mind that if it is warranted, but more often than not it was to someone like Johnathan Lowe.
One thing I have noticed with this class is how much bigger and faster the players are compared to in the past. You would have had to put Henig on Tyson Lee's shoulders for them to be as tall as Russell. We might actually look like an SEC team in a couple of years instead of a damn flea circus.
1. He didn't know what he was doing. It's a selling job. While becoming a good person in society is certainly an admirable thing (to grownups) recruiting is something where the players are looking out for themselves (and rightfully so) just as much as the school is. To get them to come to your school you have to tell them to tell them what they want to hear, because once they sign that LOI, you pretty much have them by the balls. If they want to leave your school, their choices are pretty much JUCO if they are an underclassman, D-I-AA, or go somewhere far off and sit out a year, or stay and wait their turn to play.
2. He gave out too many scholarships to his friends kids. I don't mind that if it is warranted, but more often than not it was to someone like Johnathan Lowe.
One thing I have noticed with this class is how much bigger and faster the players are compared to in the past. You would have had to put Henig on Tyson Lee's shoulders for them to be as tall as Russell. We might actually look like an SEC team in a couple of years instead of a damn flea circus.
Well, I think Croom has to be given SOME credit for this class since we had some nice pick-ups early. Having said that, however, I think he took a lot of recruiting personally - and Patterson would not have received a call after de-committing.
...we can actually joke about Patterson because we really don't need him.
When you've got commitments from players like Smith, Bumphis etc., you can relax & let Patterson be Patterson.
This is going to be a bang up recruiting class no matter what Patterson does.
In past years, the MSU fanbase would have a bottle of Xanax stashed in the medicine cabinet.
And who Patterson chooses on signing day would dictate whether that bottle of Xanax gets opened or not.
When you've got commitments from players like Smith, Bumphis etc., you can relax & let Patterson be Patterson.
This is going to be a bang up recruiting class no matter what Patterson does.
In past years, the MSU fanbase would have a bottle of Xanax stashed in the medicine cabinet.
And who Patterson chooses on signing day would dictate whether that bottle of Xanax gets opened or not.
Considering Mullen has acknowledged that Croom put in the foundation for this recruiting class, I think the man deserves at least a little credit. He did have a lot of talent committed before he was let go, he probably just didn't know what the hell he would do with it when it got to campus. However, Mullen has definitely outshined Croom in the fact that he has kept basically all of our commits (Montez Phillips and Anthony Rogers are the only defects I can think of off the top of my head) AND brought some into the mix that wouldn't have even considered us had Croom still been in charge. Bumphis, Perkins, and now Jamal Reid, Brandon Heavens, etc.
#1, Croom did in fact obtain those commits.....#2, incoming coaches always say good things about who they replaced...common courtesy so to speak.....
I firmly believe though that with the way we finished the season, many of those were getting ready to jump ship...
there is no way our signing class would have been near what it is getting ready to be due to the much needed coaching change...
thanks again Greg....
I firmly believe though that with the way we finished the season, many of those were getting ready to jump ship...
there is no way our signing class would have been near what it is getting ready to be due to the much needed coaching change...
thanks again Greg....
