I don't know about you guys....this whole thing smells like @ss for MSU.

[Waterdawg]

So far the story has MSU andthe Newtonsall over it. There is no connection to Auburn.

This looks bad for us...a former alumni/player is solicitating Cam to his former teammate (Bond), who is a booster for MSU. I don't mean bad in the terms of we did something wrong...I mean bad that our own folks are involved are linked to this thing.

The only Auburn link right now is thatthe Newtonschoose Auburn....so what.

Did Rodgers contact a Tenn booster? If so, why hasn't the Tenn booster spoke up? To me, that would atleast validate Bond's story to some degree. Right now it's all MSU camp that is tied/providing the allegations.

Things I would like know (other than the obvious - did Auburn pay) is how did Cecil and Rodgers get hooked up in the first place? Cecil admitted to having contact with Rodgers. Why should Cecil be in contactwith a guy that is an agent or carries himself as a agent during Cam's recuritment?

I know there is a lot of speculation over how Cecil got the money to fix his churches and the FB post on the new ride.

But, right now it looks like we have a shady former player that wants to be agent and has been misrepresenting himself as an agent attempting to get Cam to Mississippi State through a MSU booster. Can you smell the *** crack in that?

Actually, I wish Bond would have kept quiet to ESPN and let ESPN/NYT spin the story with their own accusations. Without Bond's statements, is there any thing else to the story?I meananything thing credible thatput a story out? I don't know how ESPN could run the story with or without Bond because that seems to be the only credible evidence they have at this time.

 

[Waterdawg]

So far the story has MSU andthe Newtonsall over it. There is no connection to Auburn.

This looks bad for us...a former alumni/player is solicitating Cam to his former teammate (Bond), who is a booster for MSU. I don't mean bad in the terms of we did something wrong...I mean bad that our own folks are involved are linked to this thing.

The only Auburn link right now is thatthe Newtonschoose Auburn....so what.

Did Rodgers contact a Tenn booster? If so, why hasn't the Tenn booster spoke up? To me, that would atleast validate Bond's story to some degree. Right now it's all MSU camp that is tied/providing the allegations.

Things I would like know (other than the obvious - did Auburn pay) is how did Cecil and Rodgers get hooked up in the first place? Cecil admitted to having contact with Rodgers. Why should Cecil be in contactwith a guy that is an agent or carries himself as a agent during Cam's recuritment?

I know there is a lot of speculation over how Cecil got the money to fix his churches and the FB post on the new ride.

But, right now it looks like we have a shady former player that wants to be agent and has been misrepresenting himself as an agent attempting to get Cam to Mississippi State through a MSU booster. Can you smell the *** crack in that?

Actually, I wish Bond would have kept quiet to ESPN and let ESPN/NYT spin the story with their own accusations. Without Bond's statements, is there any thing else to the story?I meananything thing credible thatput a story out? I don't know how ESPN could run the story with or without Bond because that seems to be the only credible evidence they have at this time.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

in the mix on this. We are along for the ride.

ESPN controls sports!

 

[vandaldawg]

I'm starting to get that not-so-fresh-feeling. I'm listening to Finebaum, so maybe that is coloring things a little, but I feel like the court of public opinion is turning against us right now. Honestly, it's seems as if it's turning out to be a he said - he said thing as most of these type deals do.

I really hope, and personally believe that Bond just did what he said he did. Got approached, and went to the AD with it. I also feel that he probably at that point just assumed be done with it. SOMEBODY, somebody was hounding him. That's what I think. Hounding him to come forward. The smoke must have gotten pretty thick, and he knew it was inevitable.

But if he, for some God-known reason, decided to pony this up, and it blows back on us? He gets run out of town on a rail. I don't think this is the case.

Finebaum did say he thinks Mullen wanted this story to come out from bitterness.

 

[3000lbchicken]

probably not but wouldn't suprise me if this was the third party

 

[was21]

before the **** hits the fan, if it ever does. He's just maybe going on record to protect his reputation. Sometimes it's best to be proactive...besides, he has an Ole Miss lawyer..what more could you ask for?

 

[Dawgzilla]

Phil Abernathy graduated from MSU in the '70s, and is a huge MSU fan. Good man, too.

 

[o_Bigohh]

Phil Abernathy graduated from MSU in the '70s, and is a huge MSU fan. Good man, too.

You're right. There may be a lot of things in life you need to worry about. Phil's loyality to State is not one of them.

 

[Frexzell]

<div>Bond has been hounded by the press for weeks now. He had to come out when he did or no telling what the press was going to say. It was not just ESPN; it was the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and ... well ... Veazey. This way he at least gets some say about the story and, yes, about protecting MSU. Think about what the press could have insinuated. I mean the Auburn fans are already screaming that MSU turned them in when that is not what the story or the statement said at all. If Bond had not come out when he did, the press could have easily been insinuated that Bond was working in cahoots with Rogers when that is obviously not the case at all. They also could have insinuated somehow MSU was involved.</div><div>
</div><div>And as far as ESPN goes, do not fool yourself. They have to have a source within the NCAA. I cannot think of another plausible way ESPN knew this information. </div><div>
</div><div>As far as Finebaum, he is a complete joke. He has no idea what he is talking about. I would just turn off the the radio and walk slowly away.</div>

 

[Frexzell]

Abernethy is a huge MSU fan. He was actually the MSU student body president back in the day.

 

[Topgundawg]

As I said in a earlier post someone is lying: Bond, Newton, Auburn, Chicago Queen, etc. Bond was tight with ESPN analysts, hopefully he is shooting straight, we in dawg land are expecting that, Chicago Queen is busted (money), Newton has either covered his tracks or is one smart preacher, and Auburn like all Universities has had no contact. When was the last time a University was involved? ****, its their supporters. We know that...ask Jackie

The bottom line is Auburn will skate, we will take some heat for being involved from Joe Public's view (that's why coach didn't want to get involved) and probably Newton unless he is really super man will be 17ed out of the Heisman. Not that I care, but I hate MSU getting in the mud with the pigs and and bears......

 

[Waterdawg]

....this is great...NOTTT

Let's see...No Cam Newton, Shady Alumni, reduced credibility...

Do we have any more shady ex players?

I hope other credible info comes out on this and not from the MSU related side.

</p>

 

[MemphisMaroonClubDog]

That Rogers contacted him when Cam left FLA and told him that he specialized in helping transfers find colleges that were right for them. He said that they didn't have much other contact until Cecil CALLED ROGERS to ask him how he felt about Starkville and MSU. Wanted to know all about the town and what not is how Schlabach said it on ESPN this morning...

THAT is why Auburn is all involved in this. The connection between Cecil and Rogers cannot be understated in its importance of why in the hell Cecil would go to a guy who has not been involed in MSU athletics for 25 years. Hell, if he was calling Jackie Sherrill, that would be one thing. I am an alum of MSU and have been VERY up to date with recruiting for the past 10-12 years and I had never heard of Kenny Rogers until yesterday.

 

[cps36]

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[Topgundawg]

For the time being this is going to blow over except for Newton for Heisman campaign. Bama will probably toast Tigers and SEC will be off the hook for National Championship going down the drain. The reality is simple: Auburn is greasing the palms of players (you know who I mean) so they can stay up with Bama. Hell, they hate Bama like we love the Bears.....

They (Auburn) didn't let Cam play because there was a trail a MS bird dog could find. Dumb *** from Chicago is broke and just found out Newton won't be using him as their rep for NFL. He gets fired up and goes nuclear, the problem I'm having is why Bond found it in himself to get a lawyer and go to ESPN with only a phone call. NO evidence, ESPN goes on national TV and drops their drawers, Jesus what am I missing........

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

So far the story has MSU andthe Newtonsall over it. There is no connection to Auburn.

Yeah, no connection to Auburn at all.

 

[MemphisMaroonClubDog]

nm

 

[MemphisMaroonClubDog]

Rogers contends he met Mullen once through Cecil Newton, who introduced the two.

Cecil Newton contacted Rogers during the recruiting process to figure out more “about the culture of Mississippi State because it was a small town,” Rogers said. “We would just talk back and forth about Mississippi State,” Rogers said.</p>

 

[GloryDawg]

He's playing at Auburn. How much more connection you need? Hell I believe Bond. Not because he's a MSU guy but hell what does he have to gain by informing Bryd about the contact. Newton's dad is dirty. Auburn is Dirty. They have to be to keep up with Alabama. MSU is not going to get hurt one bit! Maybe now Auburn will keep their crying mouths shut about the Cow Bell. Mother 17ners.

 

[windcrysmary]

1. Bond reports to MSU and MSU reports to the SEC.. when your *** smells, you don't report...

2. broke assed pastor newton gets a new church...

yea..MSU smells real bad...

nice try

 

[gptdawg]

I smell there is something else not yet revealed. Why did Bond break this news on the most emotional day(week) in MSU history in a long time (if ever)? John Bond is a good guy as far as I know and why is his character being impugned(sue me I can't spell) so vigorously? there is smoke-a bonfire. They may walk. 17 'em

 

[Statesboro Blues]

I smell there is something else not yet revealed. Why did Bond break this news on the most emotional day(week) in MSU history in a long time (if ever)? John Bond is a good guy as far as I know and why is his character being impugned(sue me I can't spell) so vigorously? there is smoke-a bonfire. They may walk. 17 'em

He did not break the news...the news released the info. Bond had no say when they did this.. He had already talked to them. On Monday he spoke at a TD club on the coast and mentioned that something was going to come to light shortly in regards to Newton. Pissed off a few Aub people also.

"Eat a Peach"

 

[Frexzell]

Please everyone read this: I think this is the third time I have written this, but Bond had NOTHING to do with the timing. ESPN, the NY Times, and Veazey were going to break the story with or without him. In order to protect himself and MSU, he released the statement.

 

[NorthMsDawg]

Waterdawg wrote:
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the FB post on the new ride.


I must have missed this...Someone had a Facebook post about a new ride? Do tell....

 

[marathoner]

I don't think State has anything to worry about. The NCAA says we did all the right things. As far as Mullen being bitter hell wouldn't you. He thinks he has his top dog signed sealed and delivered and the next thing he knows an agent is asking for 180,000 to put his name on the line. We wouldn' t play ball and next thing you know he signs with AU. What is Mullen suppose to assume. Hell I guess everyone else would assume he signed with AU free of charge NOT!!! No matter what happened if I was Mullen I would assume he got bought. If Cam didn't get bought then a very large unknown donation came in to his dad's churches of which there will be no paper trail. But if I were Mullen I would want it brought out just to make them sweat.

As far as Rogers he is a scumbag plain and simple. NFLPA investigation for misrepresentation. I am sure he never directly talked to anyone but I bet he had someone make contact on his behalf. What a joke this guy is.

 

[Thick]

because they had already met with the NCAA. Supposedly from what I heard, was that SI was breaking the story in full next week, and ESPN caught wind of it, and tada...struck first!

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...I realize the MSU paranoia would eventually boil to the surface concerning this Cam Newton debacle, but I have read nothing that paints MSU in a bad light.


Actually, the only above board player in this whole mess seems to be John Bond.


John Bond played it by the numbers & immediately contacted the proper authorities.


If you can conjure some wrong doing from that, then you are probably posting on the Internet.

 

[Seinfeld]

There was absolutely no possible way that MSU COULD look good from this. I mean, look at the scenario from a very high level. An MSU alum reveals improper recruiting info that involves a fellow SEC team, a former MSU player as the agent, and the whole story is about the SEC's only Heisman hopeful? While I don't think that MSU has anything to worry about from a recruiting or procedural standpoint, MSU had nothing at all to gain from this and I think that's what is so telling. Someone is lying their *** off in this whole ordeal, and I think what it all comes down to is who has the most to lose? MSU: Nothing, Auburn: A lot, Newtons: A lot, Rogers: To be determined

In other words, if I had to make my bets on who is lying, it's one of the last three, a combination of the three, or possibly all of them. I don't know what will come from this and I hate the NCAA, but after the BS they put us through with the Sidney case, I feel like they owe us a comprehensive investigation at least. Of course, I know they don't feel that way, but I sure do.

 

[Waterdawg]

nothing major...per his interiew yesterday that he did not have any direct contact with Rodgers...it was through two layers of folks.

 

[Waterdawg]

http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com/sreply/395581/t/Auburn-s-donation-to-Cam-Newton-s-father-s-church.html

 

[jakldawg]

that "talked to Rogers" can actually mean "talked to any of several intermediaries who might pass messages onto Rogers" and "_ University" means "CLEARLY rogue boosters who are in no official capacity to represent _ U."

So when you hear statements like "Nobody from Auburn gave the Newton's cash" you have to assume they think we're morons who picture some athletic department lackey decked out in blue and orange handing Cecil Newton himself a cartoon sack/briefcase handcuffed to his wrist full of money.

 

[ckDOG]

He only referred to "a former teammate". "Sources" said that the former teammate was Kenny Rogers. That very well may be who he was referring to, or there was an intermediary between Bond and Rogers (also a former teammate).

Regardless, Bond was very careful in his choice of words. He never referred to anyone by name. He simply referenced the situation in general and tried to make sure it was clear we didn't participate and handled it the way we were supposed to.

I want to know who these "sources" were...

 

[Dawgzilla]

He did not identify the teammate, and he never said they spoke directly.

 

[Repeat Offender]

that we wanted, BUT what would it havelooked liketo the NCAA if we had stayed silent and later admitted during their investigationthatwe were approached for money. We did nothing wrong and it does not matter what other schools think about it or us. In fact, Auburn may become muchless of a factor in the SEC West race for years if the truth comes out. I have no problem with that and they can blame whoever they want.

 

[blacklistedbully]

JB notified Byrne as soon as the offer was made. Byrne tolf JB to go ahead and report to SEC & NCAA. JB never mentioned AU. In fact, in the recent interview bringing all this to light, JB went out of his way to say he had not implicated AU. All the man did was tell the SEC & NCAA that State has been offered Cam for $180k, and that he had been told other schools had offered $200k. AU is only involved because they are the ones who ultimately signed Cam.<div>
</div><div>As far as we know there is no direct evidence implicating AU, but it does seem strange to think that we'd be hit up for $180k, but AU not.</div>