I got ripped at church for this, am I completely off base?

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I was cussed (at church) by one of your brethren. Was I off base about y'all in 2010?

Should win: Mem, UAB, ASU

Should lose: UF, UA, LSU, PIG SOOIE

History says lose: AU, UM (road game), UGA

toss-up every year: UK, UH

I said worse case senario is 3-9 and best case is 8-4. I told them that I had y'all should be disappointed with anything less than 6-6.

And I even said I thought we were in the same boat. He insisted that y'all would be no worse than 8-4 (4-4) in conference. Said best case was 10-2 (UF and UA).
 
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I was cussed (at church) by one of your brethren. Was I off base about y'all in 2010?

Should win: Mem, UAB, ASU

Should lose: UF, UA, LSU, PIG SOOIE

History says lose: AU, UM (road game), UGA

toss-up every year: UK, UH

I said worse case senario is 3-9 and best case is 8-4. I told them that I had y'all should be disappointed with anything less than 6-6.

And I even said I thought we were in the same boat. He insisted that y'all would be no worse than 8-4 (4-4) in conference. Said best case was 10-2 (UF and UA).
 
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I was cussed (at church) by one of your brethren. Was I off base about y'all in 2010?

Should win: Mem, UAB, ASU

Should lose: UF, UA, LSU, PIG SOOIE

History says lose: AU, UM (road game), UGA

toss-up every year: UK, UH

I said worse case senario is 3-9 and best case is 8-4. I told them that I had y'all should be disappointed with anything less than 6-6.

And I even said I thought we were in the same boat. He insisted that y'all would be no worse than 8-4 (4-4) in conference. Said best case was 10-2 (UF and UA).
 

seshomoru

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Do something interesting or come back with a less stupid question. Wondering whether a lot of MSU fans think we'll go 10-2 because you talked to some guy at church is like me thinking all Ole Miss fans are racists because of that dude dropping the n-word on youtube or whatever it was. I really know that only like 40-50% of you hide under the sheet.
 

DowntownDawg

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....7 is where I realistically hope we are, and we have an outside shot at 8.

I think you have to move UK into the "Should Win" Category. I think you move Arkansas at home to the toss-up category. I also think Auburn and Georgia are in that category at home. And Ole Miss might be as well.

I think we beat Memphis, UAB, Alcorn, and Kentucky for sure. We've got to get two out of Auburn, Georgia, LSU, and Houston. And we beat Arkansas or Ole Miss if we're gonna get 7.

To me, Bama and Florida are the only unwinnable games on the schedule.
 

lawdawg02

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He insisted that y'all would be no worse than 8-4 (4-4) in conference. Said best case was 10-2 (UF and UA).
I don't think 3-9 is a possibility. I think we beat at least two teams from your toss-up and history categories (making 5 wins), and it's reasonable that we beat three ofthem or three plusone we should lose(making 6 or 7 wins).
 

Hanmudog

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Not even close to being in the same boat as Ole Miss. We actually play a D-1 schedule. I predict that Ole Miss will once again make a bowl game without beating anyone worth a crap.
 

Sutterkane

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the list should be a lot more like this:

Should win: Mem, UAB, ASU, UK, UGA

Should lose: UF, UA

History says lose: PIG SOOIE, LSU

toss-up every year: UH, AU, UM

We have probably the best shot at winning in Red Stick in the past 20 years. Their receivers, Tyson Lee, and Chad Jones single-handedly beat us last year. All 4 of those players are gone for next year's game, and everything that was a positive for us minus Dixon is back. That said, it's still LSU in Death Valley vs M-State. We always suck against Arkansas. UF and Bama are going to be near impossible to win. UK and UGA are going to suck next year. We usually give mediocre Auburn teams a good run for their money, especially in Starkville. And you never know what is going to happen in the egg bowl, ever, I don't care where the game is.
 

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The only game that I think that we have no chance of winning is Bama. Yes I know that we go to the swamp. This will not be the same Florida team we have seen for the past few years. They lose superman and have yet to prove that they have any playmakers. There will be a lot of pressure on Brantley. I am not saying that we will win in the swamp but it is an outside shot. Do not get me wrong. I am not saying that I expect to go 11-1 or anything but just think that I would not count any games out except for Bama.
 

Johnson85

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but this is my guess as to how UM's schedule shakes out next year. Really have no clue about the nonconference teams, but if any of them turn out to be decnet UM could be in trouble.

Teams that Suck
Jacksonville State
Louisiana Lafayette

Bad Teams
Tulane
vanderbilt
Fresno State
UK

Decent Teams
Tenn
MSU
LSU

Good Teams
Alabama
Ark
Au

My guess is UM goes 6-6, beating 5 ****** to bad teams, losing to one bad team,and upsetting one decent team (probably us or LSU).
 

Hanmudog

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Ole Miss' schedule is absolutely crappy. Sometimes I wish we would schedule like that and make a bowl game more than once a decade.
 

rebel law

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Texas and Clemson will be on our schedule soon enough. That in my opinion is awful. You are guaranteed to play 8 great to decent teams a year. I don't see any sense in adding a team like Texas or Clemson or in y'alls case Oregon or WV.
 

Chickamauga

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Will Win: Jacksonville State, Louisiana-Lafayette

Likely Wins: Tulane, Vanderbilt

Toss-Ups: Fresno State, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Tennessee

Likely Losses: LSU, Arkansas, Auburn

Will Lose: Alabama

Worst-case scenario 3-9. Best-case 8-4. Most likely 6-6. Regarding the Egg Bowl, history favors the home team pretty strongly. But I'm not moving it to "likely win" until I see a Nix defense stop the read option.
 

Mr Meoff

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and with a couple of solid BCS schools on the schedule that year, we are basically set up perfectly for our second national championship. Beautiful.

Unless the world ends in December 2012. Then that will suck.
 

patdog

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The home team always wins unless the visiting team is just clearly better, and even then the home team sometimes wins. I do think we will have a better team than you this fall, but I can't put the Egg Bowl as anything but a tossup. I think you're about right about the Rebels, except I think the top end and most likely are overstated by 1 game. I see 3-9 to 7-5 with 5-7 being most likely. For MSU I see 5-7 to 9-3 with 7-5 being most likely.
 

SLUdog

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However, the away team won from 1994 to 1998. It's an odd statistic. Of course, it was played in Jackson from 1972 (?) to 1990. I think MSU (if things go well) has a good shot to win @Oxford in 2010.
 

Chickamauga

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but we were at a pretty catastrophic disadvantage in that game.

We were effectively playing without a coaching staff. Also, we had to start David Morris after Romaro Miller injured his shoulder on the last play at Georgia the weekend before. I think those things combined to override most of our home-field advantage.

Similarly, 2003 was probably the worst team that State has ever fielded. It was Eli Manning vs. Ron Cooper's defense. Playing at Scott Field wasn't going to do much to change the outcome.
 

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CapitolHillRebel said:
but we were at a pretty catastrophic disadvantage in that game.

We were effectively playing without a coaching staff. Also, we had to start David Morris after Romaro Miller injured his shoulder on the last play at Georgia the weekend before. I think those things combined to override most of our home-field advantage.

Similarly, 2003 was probably the worst team that State has ever fielded. It was Eli Manning vs. Ron Cooper's defense. Playing at Scott Field wasn't going to do much to change the outcome.


After 1997. We were out for blood.
 

jackstefano

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Hanmudog said:
I predict that Ole Miss will once again make a bowl game without beating anyone worth a crap.
When has that happened before? Certainly not the past 2 years.
 

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The only things I disagree with is that if we're talking "outside shots," I don't think 8 is the absolute ceiling, although it would certainly be amazing to get that many. And I don't consider Florida to be unwinnable. I don't think they will be that great, and I think we will have a lot of confidence in that game between last year's game and the fact that our coach knows them so well.

But I agree that 6 would be a slight disappointment and that I expect to win seven. 5-7 is the worst I could see us doing, and that will be extremely disappointing.
 

Hanmudog

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jackstefano said:
Hanmudog said:
I predict that Ole Miss will once again make a bowl game without beating anyone worth a crap.
When has that happened before? Certainly not the past 2 years.
Saying not worth a crap might be a bit harsh on my part. The LSU win last year was a good one but beyond that there were zero impressive wins for Ole Miss. Beatingmediocre UT and Arkansas teams at home just was not very impressive. It is easy to forget that Ole Miss was only 4-4 in the SEC last season.

What it boils down to is that OMgenerally only has to win maybe a couple ofsemi tough games a year to get to a bowl with schedules like last year and this coming year.
 

jackstefano

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Hanmudog said:
jackstefano said:
Hanmudog said:
I predict that Ole Miss will once again make a bowl game without beating anyone worth a crap.
When has that happened before? Certainly not the past 2 years.
Saying not worth a crap might be a bit harsh on my part. The LSU win last year was a good one but beyond that there were zero impressive wins for Ole Miss. Beatingmediocre UT and Arkansas teams at home just was not very impressive. It is easy to forget that Ole Miss was only 4-4 in the SEC last season.

What it boils down to is that OMgenerally only has to win maybe a couple ofsemi tough games a year to get to a bowl with schedules like last year and this coming year.
 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I think you have to be real good in both to be a great team. I think they will bea decent team but not a good. Their defense might be great next year but if this last season is any indications I don't know. I might be wrong in my observation but it seems to me Arkansas is going in the same directions as Louisville when coach Pertino was there. High scoring offense but piss poor defense. Seems like I remember his defense at Louisville were never really good. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span>That won’t fly in the SEC.</p>
 

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Whats the point in playing a couple of BCS schools for noncon games and getting beat? As long as you make it to 6-6 and can go to a bowl it looks a lot better to everyone, (except maybe your rival who is trying very hard to discredit your team) especially recruits who want to play in bowl games when they are in college. Having a couple of BCS schools on your schedule is great if you can beat them, but if you lose those noncon games because you scheduled yourself too difficult and then you miss a bowl game, then I think you need to look real hard at whoever is scheduling those games and tell them to get smarter about who they are scheduling.
 

patdog

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Only a real dubmass would schedule any differently at one of the Bottom 6 of the SEC. Greg Byrne may have only been our AD for 18 months, but the one thing he did that will help us for years to come was to sign contracts with high buyouts for that type of schedule for the next 7 years. By far the toughest non-conference games we will have will be USM, and while it's debatable whether it's good to schedule USM, it's not debatable that they are a very mediocre mid-major program right now. We'll reap the benefits of Byrne's tenure as AD for many years to come.
 

Hanmudog

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I want State to play that kind of schedule. It is beyond stupid to play ranked OOC teams when you are struggling to even compete in the SEC.Thereis theperception that Ole Miss had an impressiveseasonlast yearand the Egg Bowl was some kind of big upset. State was the better team and proved it. Records be damned.
That being said, I would be thrilled to beat a schedule of J-State, Valley, Vandy,UAB, UK, USM, and Ole Miss while getting a bid to sunny Shreveport.
 

jackstefano

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Hanmu,OM went 9-4 and won the Cotton Bowl. Have a smidgen of objectivity. Nobody's saying OM should've played for the f'in nat'l championship.
 

Porkchop.sixpack

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Catholic, there's nothing wrong with that. Went to a Catholic fundraiser a few weeks back and had a beer out of a tap in the church.

I might have been Catholic all along and just didn't know it.
 

Porkchop.sixpack

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I think they will make me go to a bunch of classes, though, if I am going to drink beer in church. Right? That's going to bea pain. But, it will be worth it.
 

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I say.........who gives a ****? We fans find ourselves once again mulling(or is it Mullening?) over the prospects of yet another football season to come, only to likely end up disappointed at the outcome yet again. To be perfectly clear, that's not any kind of prediction on my part. I'm certainly not predicting gloom and doom for MSU football in 2010. We might very well finally get off the floor and win some games, but that remains to be seen. I do believe that if anyone can do it, Mullen can. All I'm saying right nowis thatI've come to the point where it fascinates me why anyone really gives a **** enough to make suchspeculations. State fans continuing to come back for more and more after a decade of misery conjures up images of Kevin Bacon screaming "Thank you sir, may I have another?!" over and over and over again. What may be sadder is that probably 90% of you will be jumping for joy if MSU goes 6-6. How pathetic.</p>
 

Hanmudog

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jackstefano said:
Hanmu,OM went 9-4 and won the Cotton Bowl. Have a smidgen of objectivity. Nobody's saying OM should've played for the f'in nat'l championship.

What can be more objective than 41-27? Also when was the last time a 4-4 SEC team went to the Cotton Bowl? All I am saying is that the weak schedule that OM played gave the impression that yall were better than you really were. The Egg Bowl showed that to be true. We beat a 9-4 team that racked up most of those wins against bad to mediocre teams. Nothing wrong with that.
I don't want to turn this into EggBowl.com but you do realize that MSU was 6 inches from probably being in that Cotton Bowl instead of Ole Miss?
 

Hanmudog

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If we swapped Houston and Georgia Tech for Northern Arizona and SELA last year on our schedule then things would not be nearly as cut and dried as you think.
 
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